Merged: Really: why NOT Odom?

[Rastapopoulos]

I talked myself into Hedo. But if he doesn't sign, I guess it's no great biggie. But we do need another creator and tall passer. We DON'T need Trevor Ariza (that rumor is stupid). But really, why not Lamar Odom? We actually need a backup 4 more than we need a 3, and Odom can play both. He's a very good rebounder, a very good defender, he's every bit the ball handler and passer that Turkoglu is, and he certainly looked like a 3-point shooter in the playoffs. And it would screw the Lakers (much more than signing Ariza)? Why not offer him a contract if Turkoglu turns us down? He's actually got a lot of the same pluses and is a better defender and rebounder. And unlike Artest, whom other people are strangely clamoring for, he is very unselfish and non-black-holish on O.

 

[BlazersBlood]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

He is my most hated Laker since Rick Fox. It would be hard for me to root for him, and it probably be even hard for Lamarcus to play alongside him.

 

[axs88]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I was actually thinking the same thing the other day. If we're going to add a Laker, I would definitely prefer him to Ariza due to his versatility and skillset. He isn't a great 3 point shooter either at a career 31% but at least he is not a chucker anymore. He's very efficient and also gives you the same production in the playoffs. His ability to be a very good backup 4 would also mean killing two birds with one stone.

Unfortunately he would never come here.

And then there's the chemistry issue.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

The lakers were good cos lamar got high

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[alex42083]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Lamar is one of the more inconsistent players in the league. We'd hate him within the first week for being lazy.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

"Do people know how good Lamar Odom is?"

Apparently not.

Staunch off-ball defense. Huge rebounding numbers. Gorgeous open court passing. Steady, knowledgeable half court passing. A three-point touch. An ability to finish in the paint, something that Ariza (despite his flashy dunks) still doesn't have. The ability to take pressure off of Bryant, so that he can focus on scoring, instead of having to play both Jordan and Pippen's roles.
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It is one thing for a superstar to drive and kick it out to a shooter "to get him involved." And yet it's another thing to make an entry pass to a player, call for a screen, set another screen, and watch as a player who wasn't even involved in the play runs through the offensive set to an easy score.

That takes an involved, exacting mind. And for all the jokes we make about his unsettling dietary habits, Odom has a set of gifts that few others can boast. And certainly nobody on the Lakers can replace.

 

[Tince]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Ariza would be a WAY better fit than Odom.

We're not looking for punks, with a "me-first" attitude that comes to play every 5th game. We don't need a guy who demands playing time but is scared to take the big shot.

Odom represents everything this franchise is trying to get away from.

 

[handiman]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Lamar is one of the more inconsistent players in the league.

Much like Artest and his checkered past, Odom's inconsistency is the only reason he would be: a) possibly available, and b) not a max contract. That said, I doubt he'll leave LA, given his expressed desire to stay there.

 

[Tince]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Much like Artest and his checkered past, Odom's inconsistency is the only reason he would be: a) possibly available, and b) not a max contract. That said, I doubt he'll leave LA, given his expressed desire to stay there.

Ok good, rule out Artest and Odom!

 

[RickyRubio]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I dunno, couple years ago? No way. He seems to be maturing and growing out of his shitty attitude. If there was not much else left, I would consider it.

8 mil range.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

What "me first attitude"? I don't see it. He's probably the least selfish person for his talent set in the league. Okay, apart from LeBron James. And Roy. But he also has the best +/- numbers on the Lakers. Think on that.

 

[DaRizzle]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

We're not looking for punks, with a "me-first" attitude

that couldnt be further from the truth, he is overly a team player

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Odom made 14 million last year. (Although 3 million was paid early 3 years back) I can see him taking a cut to stay with the Lakers, but how much do you plan on offering him?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Odom made 14 million last year. (Although 3 million was paid early 3 years back) I can see him taking a cut to stay with the Lakers, but how much do you plan on offering him?

Just more than anyone else offers?

 

[huevonkiller]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

What "me first attitude"? I don't see it. He's probably the least selfish person for his talent set in the league. Okay, apart from LeBron James. And Roy. But he also has the best +/- numbers on the Lakers. Think on that.

That just shows how flawed +/- is, but yeah he is a pretty mellow guy and he'll fit well anywhere. I just get frustrated with his lack of certain skills this far into his career (lack of some post moves, developing his right hand, mid range game, erratic 3-point shooting).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

That just shows how flawed +/- is, but yeah he is a pretty mellow guy and he'll fit well anywhere. I just get frustrated with his lack of certain skills this far into his career (lack of some post moves, developing his right hand, mid range game, erratic 3-point shooting).

You'll miss him if he goes, and you get to see a lot more Andrew Bynum playing C and a lot less Pau Gasol playing C.

 

[huevonkiller]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

You'll miss him if he goes, and you get to see a lot more Andrew Bynum playing C and a lot less Pau Gasol playing C.

Well I want a healthy Andrew playing C, but I want LO around over Trevor just in case Bynum is hurt again. Nothing against Ariza, good luck to him.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Just more than anyone else offers?

Certainly the Lakers will offer at least the measley 8 million we have to offer him. Seems like a waste of time and energy.

 

[Mamba]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Me first attitude?

Are you sure you're talking about Odom?

You just made yourself S2's *edited* of the day with such a silly comment.

 

[Furball]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Yeah, I almost would prefer Odom over Hedo. Better defender and rebounder. Almost as good a passer. Would fit much better in the Nate (yawn) offense. I think he would mesh better. Could also move over to the 4 and allow Batum/Webster some minutes.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I'd also prefer Odom to Turkoglu (and to Ariza, for that matter). He's a better player...better production, better defender. He's also a year or so younger. For similar money, I think he'd be a better choice.

A nice bonus is that it would mean LA wouldn't have Odom. That's never the reason to sign someone, but it would be a nice effect.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I'd consider Odom and Turkoglu as being pretty close to a zero sum difference -- they certainly have a different style of play and different specific strengths and weaknesses -- but both can handle the ball well for such a big man and both mesh pretty well with teammates. If Hedo falls through for some reason I'd be fine with an aggressive play for Odom.

 

[NJNetz]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

What's the deal with Odom being completely unable to go to his right hand?

 

[B-Roy]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I want him.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I suppose I'm in the minority here, but I really feel Odom would be an excellent fit for our needs. I'm not a fan of anything HEDO - not his defense, not his rebounding, not even Turkey.

 

[Tortimer]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

No way to Odom. I would rather stay with what we have then sign Odom. I would take any backup banger PF before Odom. Please KP just say no to Odom.

 

[Draco]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

I think we should give him the max offer we can, 52 million or whatever we just offered Hedo. I'd expect LA to match and Odom deciding to stay put, but that'll cause the Lakers to have less money available in the next few years which could cause them to forgo adding an MLE free agent.

If Odom does accept our offer we'd be adding a very solid player. While he has some weaknesses he's far better than Travis.

 

[Tyler_Hansbrough]

Re: Really: why NOT Odom?

Chemistry.

 

[tlongII]

Lamar Odom anyone?

He might not be the best fit as far as character goes, but he would be a heck of a player coming off the bench. I think we should think about it.

 

[Eastoff]

I think we're all overlooking the obvious answer. Odom sounds too much like Oden. Have you tried saying "Odom Oden" ten times fast?