Merged: Starting Over / So what happens the rest of this season....?

[Nikolokolus]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Usually burning it down means trading your long-term contracts for expirings, not the other way around.

barfo

Roy and Aldridge are maybe the two most immovable contracts in the NBA ... worse than Gil, worse than Brand, worse than Baron mostly because they are in the first year of 5 with BYC status and Roy's injuries makes his deal especially toxic. So "burning it down" in the traditional sense doesn't seem like an option in this case.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

I don't view Matthews or Rudy to be significant enough to worry about in terms of roles. Matthews is probably a good to great reserve and Rudy can be an okay reserve.

Roy isn't a factor to me while his status is completely undetermined. For now, Iguodala would be the 2, Batum the 3 and Matthews/Rudy get backup minutes. If Roy comes back at a level above reserve level, Roy, Iguodala and Batum can all get 30+ minutes rotating through all the 2/3 minutes. Roy may not even be able to handle 30+ minutes, no matter what level he returns at.

I think you're just spinning your wheels with this team. Won't be anything better than a 4/5 seed forever.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

I think you're just spinning your wheels with this team. Won't be anything better than a 4/5 seed forever.

If that's where it ends, sure. I'd still want the team to go after a superstar. I just am not against picking up more good players in the meantime.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

If that's where it ends, sure. I'd still want the team to go after a superstar. I just am not against picking up more good players in the meantime.

Eventually though, you're going to have to get rid of Batum with Iggy on the team. They'll clash too much. Add in Roy and it gets worse...add in Wes Matthews, gets terrible. Too much conflict and confusion.

If you pick up good players in the future, you do it at the 1 and 5 positions, which are our needs. Miller and Camby aren't going to be around in 2 years so you have to find their replacements, not replacements for postions we're good at already with young, decent players that can grow into a role.

 

[barfo]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Roy and Aldridge are maybe the two most immovable contracts in the NBA ... worse than Gil, worse than Brand, worse than Baron mostly because they are in the first year of 5 with BYC status and Roy's injuries makes his deal especially toxic. So "burning it down" in the traditional sense doesn't seem like an option in this case.

Why is Aldridge immovable? He's got a reasonable contract given his (flashes of) potential.

Edit: BYC, right. But you don't have to burn it down right now. Next summer would be just as good. We aren't going anywhere in the meantime...

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Eventually though, you're going to have to get rid of Batum with Iggy on the team. They'll clash too much.

I don't agree with that. Plus, they'll form a hell of a defensive tandem.

Add in Roy and it gets worse...

Remains to be seen. Roy's days as a slasher may be over. If he has to reinvent himself as a jump shooter, he won't clash with either Batum or Iguodala.

add in Wes Matthews, gets terrible.

Wes Matthews is not a core-caliber player, IMO. I'm not going to add him into any equation except as a good part of the bench (or a role-player alongside a star or two). Certainly not as someone who makes bringing in a quasi-star problematic.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

I think you're just spinning your wheels with this team. Won't be anything better than a 4/5 seed forever.

Forever is a long time. Eventually LMA and Roy will be expiring contracts.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I would only add Igoudala if we were going to trade Batum for someone else, personally. Wes Matthews is good enough to be a complimentary starter. If we were to trade Batum + ???? for a decent PG, it might be a more balanced team. I just don't think even if Roy was relegated to a reserve/grant hill type role, having Iggy and Batum + Matthews will be too much. Trading Batum if we get Iggy makes the most sense, teamwise. The thing is Batum is a cheap contract and has GREAT trade value. If you bring guys who can essentially replace him and who are better than him, you need to trade him for a top player at another position.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

I think a 2-3-4 of Matthews-Igoudala-Aldridge along with a PGOF we can get for Batum, perhaps a Devin Harris would be better than just jamming Igoudala in our lineup.

 

[B-Roy]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Remains to be seen. Roy's days as a slasher may be over.

I just choked on my tears reading that.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Why is Aldridge immovable? He's got a reasonable contract given his (flashes of) potential.

Edit: BYC, right. But you don't have to burn it down right now. Next summer would be just as good. We aren't going anywhere in the meantime...

barfo

I'm perfectly content keeping Aldridge around in a role where's a third option on offense, he's not dominant at his position and he's unlikely to suddenly make huge strides in year 5, but he doesn't kill you to have him on the team, he is able to produce some scoring and he has some versatility. and if you did acquire a back to the basket guy like Brand he'd compliment his style pretty well operating in the high or mid post. My only point is that he's nearly impossible to move right now given the length and size of his contract and what he actually produces on the court.

 

[Draco]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Steps to bring title to Portland:

Step 1: Tank
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Champions!

 

[bodyman5001]

Re: So what happens the rest of this season....?

Steps to bring title to Portland:

Step 1: Tank
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Champions!

No no, step one is collect underpants.