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Tony Bradley out of UNC is starting to get 1st round buzz. He's not a guy I've scouted much, but my cursory look at him makes me think he'll have a chance to stick as a high IQ+physical positional defender who's going to take up space, screen well (he doesn't right now) and be solid on the boards while not making many mistakes offensively. Wide+long frame, can't jump but moves his feet/runs the floor well for his size. Doesn't have good tools as a pnr finsher but projects as a mid range shooter who can pass a little in short roll situations and get on the offensive glass.

Still looks a like likely back-up center only big so I wouldn't look at him until the early second round.
 
ripcityboy said:
I get the rest of the league is in "We are going to you a favor" mode. But it only makes sense to give up Crabbe and co. if we get equal talent back. Just dumping salary comes across as panic mode unless we plan to give it all to Nurkic.
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Unless Allen plans to go deep into the luxury tax, Portland needs all that salary to give to Nurkic next off-season.
 
Minstrel said:
Unless Allen plans to go deep into the luxury tax, Portland needs all that salary to give to Nurkic next off-season.
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Then dumping Crabbe makes a lot of sense. That would probably cover it.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
"Orlando sends No. 6 pick to Portland for all of Portland's first-round picks: the 15th, 20th and 26th picks of the draft." To draft Markanen? Are they stupid?
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Not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if Orlando or the Blazers would be stupid?

I believe there are two questions here, so I will rephrase your post to something I can answer.

Q. Should the Blazers trade all three first round picks for #6?
A. This question is very debatable, since trading all three picks will make it more difficult for NO to make more trades on draft night. However, if there is a player still on the board that NO is 100% certain is an above average NBA starter, then make the trade. But unloading one of our bad contracts with the three picks would make the deal easier to swallow.

Q. Who should the Blazers pick @ #6.
A. Since I would not waste any of our first round picks on Markkanen, using #6 would be stupid and a total waste of three first round picks. We would only have Markkanen on the Blazers roster if we want a player that makes Meyers Leonard look good. That is how much I think Markkanen is overrated in this draft. Which begs the question, are the rest of the players in this highly rated draft class also overrated? Probably not, I see a couple of players I might take with #6.
 
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oldfisherman said:
Not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if Orlando or the Blazers would be stupid?

I believe there are two questions here, so I will rephrase your post to something I can answer.

Q. Should the Blazers trade all three first round picks for #6?
A. This question is very debatable, since trading all three picks will make it more difficult for NO to make more trades on draft night. However, if there is a player still on the board that NO is 100% certain is an above average NBA starter, then make the trade. But unloading one of our bad contracts with the three picks would make the deal easier to swallow.

Q. Who should the Blazers pick @ #6.
A. Since I would not waste any of our first round picks on Markannen, using #6 would be stupid and a total waste of three first round picks. We would only have Markannen on the Blazers roster if we want a player that makes Myers Leonard look good. That is how much I think Markannen is overrated in this draft. Which begs the question, are the rest of the players in this highly rated draft class also overrated? Probably not, I see a couple of players I might take with #6.
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Actually asking if the guy who wrote the piece is stupid? Because I also don't care for Markanen.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I don't believe that for a second. If anything they could be floating that out there hoping to move down, or land an established star

Lonzo and his idiot father bring headlines to LA LA land
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I've mentioned him several times over the past several weeks, IMO a good pure backup C prospect vs a lot of the PF/C types - depends what we prefer, I'd give him a hard look at 26 depending (prefer Bolden though) on what we did with our other picks if we still have them both. My killer draft would be Bell/Bolden/Pasceniks - adding Jeanne to the list as well, also, some of these guys (Bolden/Bell) are still projected in 2nd rd, so if that sticks and seems likely I'd trade down or buy a second rdr or two and perhaps trade an earlier pick
 
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Noticing that Pasecniks had moved up; I thought I would look at other changes in Draftexpress mock. Other guys who seems to be moving up several spots are Kenard and John Collins and Donovan Mitchell (from very early mocks). Isaac and Markkanen seemed to have moved up maybe one spot. Jonathan Jeanne and Ojeleye have moved up. Og Anunoby and Justin Jackson moved down a little, seemingly now in range for the Blazers. Tyler Lydon moved down several spots. Rabb has moved down.
Jonah Bolden still way down there at #46, and Bell still in 2nd round at 35.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Noticing that Pasecniks had moved up; I thought I would look at other changes in Draftexpress mock. Other guys who seems to be moving up several spots are Kenard and John Collins and Donovan Mitchell (from very early mocks). Isaac and Markkanen seemed to have moved up maybe one spot. Jonathan Jeanne and Ojeleye have moved up. Og Anunoby and Justin Jackson moved down a little, seemingly now in range for the Blazers. Tyler Lydon moved down several spots. Rabb has moved down.
Jonah Bolden still way down there at #46, and Bell still in 2nd round at 35.
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tell ya what, if Bolden and Bell could be had in the second are they are steals IMO - fantastic risk/reward, I also continue to like Semi O
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Noticing that Pasecniks had moved up; I thought I would look at other changes in Draftexpress mock. Other guys who seems to be moving up several spots are Kenard and John Collins and Donovan Mitchell (from very early mocks). Isaac and Markkanen seemed to have moved up maybe one spot. Jonathan Jeanne and Ojeleye have moved up. Og Anunoby and Justin Jackson moved down a little, seemingly now in range for the Blazers. Tyler Lydon moved down several spots. Rabb has moved down.
Jonah Bolden still way down there at #46, and Bell still in 2nd round at 35.
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I should add that Zach Collins, who was previously as high as #10, is now at #13.
 
Mediocre Man said:
He can stroke it. If Crabbe goes, he makes a lot of sense.
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Not opposed to him, but he would have to be the backup SG. Can't see him at SF or on the court with Dame and CJ.

I would rather take a shot at other positions, but if he slips to 26 and you already grabbed a backup center and/or PF . . . .
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
"Orlando sends No. 6 pick to Portland for all of Portland's first-round picks: the 15th, 20th and 26th picks of the draft." To draft Markanen? Are they stupid?
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Switch that pick to Isaac and I would be very interested.

For me, all three picks for Isaac would be fantastic and my greatest hope (after PG of course)
Top two picks for ZCollins would be great.
Otherwise, I would rather keep the three picks because I think there are some really good players available at 15-30.
 
Reep said:
Switch that pick to Isaac and I would be very interested.

For me, all three picks for Isaac would be fantastic and my greatest hope (after PG of course)
Top two picks for ZCollins would be great.
Otherwise, I would rather keep the three picks because I think there are some really good players available at 15-30.
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I can't see Orlando being super interested in our 3 picks for 6, personally. They have enough ok guys on their team. But, maybe if it was a 2 step process. 15 and Harkless to NYK for 8, and then 8 and 26 for 6?
And agree on Isaac over Markannen
 
RR7 said:
I can't see Orlando being super interested in our 3 picks for 6, personally. They have enough ok guys on their team. But, maybe if it was a 2 step process. 15 and Harkless to NYK for 8, and then 8 and 26 for 6?
And agree on Isaac over Markannen
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Or some sort of 3 tiered move up. 15 and 26 for 10. 10 and Harkless for 8 + ??. 8 and ? for 6.
 
RR7 said:
I can't see Orlando being super interested in our 3 picks for 6, personally. They have enough ok guys on their team. But, maybe if it was a 2 step process. 15 and Harkless to NYK for 8, and then 8 and 26 for 6?
And agree on Isaac over Markannen
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I think most agree that the three picks shouldn't be enough on their own. Isaac is the highest pick that I think we can realistically get to who could be a huge star. Maybe the highest ceiling in the draft.
 
Turner and 20 for Afflalo and 34. Sacramento can go BPA at 5 and 10(likely PG and SF, though) Fox and Anunoby/Jackson? Taytum/Smith? And get a solid albeit overpaid vet who can help run some point while working in a rookie PG to the team. Add a decent pick in 20 for the added salary.
Afflalo is waved, contract counts 1.5 for next year.
Harkless, 15, 34 for Lance Thomas, 8, 44. NYK add a solid SF with good length to go alongside Porzingas. Shed Lance Thomas, who is worthless. Price we pay to move up. He makes 3 million a less than Harkless. He's glued to our bench. NY can look to potentially swap 15 for Rubio, who they're rumored to still like?
8,26 for 6, 33 with Orlando. We jump ahead of Minnesota to take Isasac. Orlando can still nab someone like Monk at 8, with Minnesota unlikely to take him at 7. For their troubles, they move back into the late 1st.


Leaves us with 6, 33, 44.

Pretty certain it gets us under the luxury tax for next season.

Lillard/McCollum/Napier
McCollum/Crabbe/Connaughton
Isaac/Crabbe/Layman
Vonleh/Aminu/Thomas
Nurk/Leonard

Plenty of room for growth on that team. I obviously prefer a big deal for a Paul George, but if we're looking at shedding salary and moving up for a high upside prospect...
 
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