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Kiki Vandewegh

A very good sharp-shooter who played in the 1980's until back injuries made him prematurely retire. Traded by the PTB to the Nuggets in 1984 for Lafayette Lever, Calvin Natt and Wayne Cooper plus picks. A trade that didn't work out well because of injuries to Sam Bowie.
 
For what? Is he better than harkless? Harkless is 3 years younger, and his stats are pretty comparable
He's a much of a better defense, shooter and scorer than Harkless, and only makes $6M a year.
 
Even with George, would we be good enough to beat GSW?

Portland matches up pretty well with GS. If (BIG IF) Dame and CJ can really make a commitment to up their defensive game, and Nurk can stay healthy, with a all-star level PG13, they would have better than a puncher's chance in a 7 game series with the Warriors. Harkless would have to play huge against Draymond.
 
Portland matches up pretty well with GS. If (BIG IF) Dame and CJ can really make a commitment to up their defensive game, and Nurk can stay healthy, with a all-star level PG13, they would have better than a puncher's chance in a 7 game series with the Warriors. Harkless would have to play huge against Draymond.

We gave them the third or fourth toughest game of the playoffs in Game 3 with full team. Aside from that one, the only tougher ones they had were their heavy loss to Cavaliers last Friday, the game in which they beat Cavs in the final 2 minutes by going 11-0 and that Spurs game where they had to injure Kawhi to get a win.
 
We gave them the third or fourth toughest game of the playoffs in Game 3 with full team. Aside from that one, the only tougher ones they had were their heavy loss to Cavaliers last Friday, the game in which they beat Cavs in the final 2 minutes by going 11-0 and that Spurs game where they had to injure Kawhi to get a win.

And Nurk was not 100% in that game and only scored 3 points in 16 minutes.

Paul George is a difference maker because he is a 2-way player (4 time all defense) who can do a credible job guarding Durant and LeBron while getting you 25 ppg on the other end. He would instantly improve our perimeter defense immensely and would give us 4 solid weapons on offense. You can't double Dame and C.J., or Nurk in the low post, when you have Paul George on the floor. He would make us so much better at both ends of the floor.

I've been saying it since before the start of the season, we need to add solid, 2-way, starting caliber players at the forward positions if we hope to compete. Paul George is beyond solid, he's one of the best 2-way players in the game.

BNM
 
Love makes sense only if......

1. We are loaded with perimeter defenders

2. His relationship with Klay Thompson makes Portland a destination for him once he leaves GS, or a spot he would re-sign if traded here.
Agreed.
 
Love to POR only makes sense if we also add Paul George, which stupid radio guys' trade scenario prevents from happening.

So, no thanks to that.

BNM
 
A very good sharp-shooter who played in the 1980's until back injuries made him prematurely retire. Traded by the PTB to the Nuggets in 1984 for Lafayette Lever, Calvin Natt and Wayne Cooper plus picks. A trade that didn't work out well because of injuries to Sam Bowie.

Actually he was traded by the Nuggets to the Trail Blazers for those 3 players and picks. It was disaster because Lever and Natt were studs. (and Cooper was good as well) Kiki would have been great off the bench behind Jerome but his ego couldn't handle it. But regardless his back gave out like you said.
 
First CJ. Now Dame. Does Portland have any prayer to get enough cap space next year when he's a FA?

No, considering they're way over it right now, mostly due to multi-year deals and they still have Nurkic to sign next year.
 
I haven't read anything at all that would make me think that George and Butler are not available. And if they are both available, I think Olshey is going after the guy who has a couple years on his contract.
 
Unless a player we would miss is included, I don't see any way 3 mid to late picks getting us either guy

Unfortunately, it's true. Unless indy wants to just take on the horrible contracts of Crabbe/Leonard.. Oh well. It's why I don't get involved in the offseason stuff too much... it hardly ever comes to light, so I find better ways to bide the time.
 
Would you guys give this up for PG(duration of contract)?
Television (Sans Blazer games)

I think I'd be fine giving up TV aside from Blazer games. It's tough though. I'd say this includes watching shows on Netflix and Hulu (etc...). If he was here for 4+ years I think I would have trouble unless I could re-watch Blazer games whenever I wanted to.

At the same time we would be really good with PG on this team, so there would be a lot of incentive to re-watch games.

Side note I re-watched Lillards franchise high 59 against the Jazz last night. Still can't believe he missed 2/3 FTs which would have gotten him to 60+.
 

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