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TBpup said:
So Neil drafted Aminu over Hayward and George AND drafted Meyers Leonard?

That right there should leave much doubt about his skill as a talent elevator.
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Speaks to the crapshoot nature of the draft. And the player development abilities of each team.

Evan Turner went #2 in that draft and never lived up to those expectations. I and a few others were so high on Turner being the de facto PG next to BRoy. Too bad.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Speaks to the crapshoot nature of the draft. And the player development abilities of each team.

Evan Turner went #2 in that draft and never lived up to those expectations. I and a few others were so high on Turner being the de facto PG next to BRoy. Too bad.
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Yeah that was one pathetic draft: http://www.nba.com/history/draft/2010-draft/
 
Driving from San Diego to Los Angeles last night I listened to two hours of Paul George to the Lakers discussions. I would have thought that all laker fans would be in favor of getting him since he was a local boy. But there was a lot negative talk about him. That he was a me-first player that played no D, and that his teammates didn't like playing with him.....that he was the reason they dropped so quickly once they got to the conference finals.

Not saying I buy that, just thought it was interesting that so many would think he was a bad fit for their current team. Of course they have a very immature roster right now...and we do not. (comparatively speaking)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Driving from San Diego to Los Angeles last night I listened to two hours of Paul George to the Lakers discussions. I would have thought that all laker fans would be in favor of getting him since he was a local boy. But there was a lot negative talk about him. That he was a me-first player that played no D, and that his teammates didn't like playing with him.....that he was the reason they dropped so quickly once they got to the conference finals.

Not saying I buy that, just thought it was interesting that so many would think he was a bad fit for their current team. Of course they have a very immature roster right now...and we do not. (comparatively speaking)
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Some of them probably read this article (or agree with a lot of it without even having read it):
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...acers-magic-johnson/zvl28kvs3msi17p0sd5eot406
 
It's simple.....you say yes and trade him for anyone/anything other than Lillard, McCollum, or Nurkic (if possible). You still consider strongly doing the deal if it requires CJ.
He IS a needle-moving player.

Even if we cannot get past the current Cav's or Warriors' teams....he's only 26 and fits perfectly with Dame's age and trajectory.
 
I heard somewhere that Paul George is fucking dreadful in the clutch.
 
TBpup said:
So Neil drafted Aminu over Hayward and George AND drafted Meyers Leonard?

That right there should leave much doubt about his skill as a talent elevator.
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Paul Allen said he has the golden gut.
 
Strenuus said:
It was right around that time (4/17) that I heard it so Im pretty sure. It's dreadful.
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He wouldn't have to worry about that so much if he was here with Dame/CJ although Dame hasn't been very good for quite a while now either.
 
Strenuus said:
I heard somewhere that Paul George is fucking dreadful in the clutch.
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Well, at least for the first half of 2017, he was pretty good: "This season according to NBA.com’s clutch statistics — when games are within 5 points with 5 minutes or less left — no one is shooting better than Paul George. Russell Westbrook and Damian Lillard may shoot more, but no one else that is relied on as much as PG is as efficient. George shoots 56.3% from the field and 46.7% from 3-point range."

http://8points9seconds.com/2017/01/04/paul-george-clutch/
 
"Clutch stats," tend to be such small samples that they're way too noisy to be that useful. You can see that even in the article that TBpup linked, where by one measure he's awful and by another measure, he's #11 in the NBA. If I defined "clutch" as "regular season games in March and April when a team's playoff position isn't locked in," we'd probably have another completely different list.
 
Harry's Raincoat said:
It's simple.....you say yes and trade him for anyone/anything other than Lillard, McCollum, or Nurkic (if possible). You still consider strongly doing the deal if it requires CJ.
He IS a needle-moving player.

Even if we cannot get past the current Cav's or Warriors' teams....he's only 26 and fits perfectly with Dame's age and trajectory.
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I agree with this. Even the "consider" part regarding CJ. But after considering it, I just would not include CJ unless we knew for certain he would resign with us. One decent year is not enough for me.

But I would trade Crabbe, ET and 3 picks for him. (or any variation of that)
 
Orion Bailey said:
A Swish3???



Impossible. Nothing goes over my head. I'm too tall and I would catch it and squash it with my raw brute strength!
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Well, at least one person got it I think.

I guard the galaxy bitches!! Nothing goes over my head!
 
Seeing lots of CJ on The Jump today; it's on mute though. Anyone got a summary?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Driving from San Diego to Los Angeles last night I listened to two hours of Paul George to the Lakers discussions. I would have thought that all laker fans would be in favor of getting him since he was a local boy. But there was a lot negative talk about him. That he was a me-first player that played no D, and that his teammates didn't like playing with him.....that he was the reason they dropped so quickly once they got to the conference finals.

Not saying I buy that, just thought it was interesting that so many would think he was a bad fit for their current team. Of course they have a very immature roster right now...and we do not. (comparatively speaking)
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I have concerns about him. The rumors about him and Hibbert's girlfriend are especially concerning........ but then again, didn't Tony Parker sleep with Brent Barry's wife?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I have concerns about him. The rumors about him and Hibbert's girlfriend are especially concerning........ but then again, didn't Tony Parker sleep with Brent Barry's wife?
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It won't be a problem... if Paul sleeps with Nurk's girlfriend... well let's just say it won't be a problem, see?
 
Obviously Neil will try to trade some of our bad contracts this off seasons but I wonder if he goes a step further and tries to trade for some expiring contracts in attempt to free up cap room to make a run at PG during free agency next summer.

Nurk would also be a RFA but the way I understand it is you can go above the tax to resign your own guys. So if we can free up some space to make an offer to PG and he accepts (Huge fuckin if) and we wait to resign Nurk after the PG deal we would be able to keep Nurkic, Dame, CJ, PG with all of them being payed handsomely. Pipe dreaming here.
 
AFully22 said:
Obviously Neil will try to trade some of our bad contracts this off seasons but I wonder if he goes a step further and tries to trade for some expiring contracts in attempt to free up cap room to make a run at PG during free agency next summer.

Nurk would also be a RFA but the way I understand it is you can go above the tax to resign your own guys. So if we can free up some space to make an offer to PG and he accepts (Huge fuckin if) and we wait to resign Nurk after the PG deal we would be able to keep Nurkic, Dame, CJ, PG with all of them being payed handsomely. Pipe dreaming here.
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We have absolutely zero chance of convincing Paul George to join us in the free agency, nor do we really have cap flexibility to offer him $30M+ he will without doubt get. It'd require us to basically erase everyone bar Lillard, McCollum and the rookies.
 
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-extend-paul-george-missing-all-nba-qualifier

Paul George did not make the All-NBA team announced Thursday, which means the Indiana Pacers will likely be unable to sign him to a contract extension this summer.

Had George made one of the three teams, he would have qualified for the new Designated Player Extension that is part of the new collective bargaining agreement that starts July 1. That designation would've allowed the Pacers to offer George the richest contract in NBA history and add up to five years and approximately $210 million to his contract.

That is about $75 million more than another team could guarantee George were he to sign elsewhere if he opted for free agency in 2018. This new provision was built into the system following Kevin Durant's departure from the Oklahoma City Thunder in free agency last summer.
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