Merged: Who would you give up for Paul George?

[BlazerCaravan]

Aminu sucks and his defense is average.

Average defense is a blessing sometimes; and if he's the 5th option, he won't be shooting much at all.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Nurkic liked CJs tweet, so you can pretty much consider this a done deal.

Papa Nurk is heading over to talk to Pritchard now.

 

[AFully22]

I say go all in. It's been 40 fuckin years since we've had a parade on broadway. A starting five with Dame, CJ, PG, and Nurk all playing in their primes would give us as good of a chance as anyone within a five year span. It's going to take a ballsy/risky move to pay off big for us to make it to the top anyways, this one makes more sense than any to me.

You just hope that the asking price isn't too high due to his upcoming FA and that after a year of winning he decides to value contending in PDX over palm trees and sand. Send as many draft picks and young players as needed and hope that it beats any other deal available. Fill the rest of the roster with unprovens and ring chasers. Fuck mediocrity.

 

[Scalma]

Would crabbe, harkless, and all our picks get their attention? If we also took on a bad contract like ellis or Jefferson?

Edit: George and Ellis/Jefferson for Crabbe and Harkless works financially.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

So I guess we want the Lakers to land outside the top 3 in the lottery right? They'd lose their 2019 pick too. They'd be baaaad for a long time......

 

[Mediocre Man]

Would crabbe, harkless, and all our picks get their attention? If we also took on a bad contract like ellis or Jefferson?

Edit: George and Ellis/Jefferson for Crabbe and Harkless works financially.

It may. If they know he's leaving, like we knew Aldridge was leaving, sure. Then again, it's 5 role players, so it may not be enough?

 

[Scalma]

It may. If they know he's leaving, like we knew Aldridge was leaving, sure. Then again, it's 5 role players, so it may not be enough?

Yeah, I'm just trying to think about what other teams would offer Indiana, and trying to top that. I don't think Boston would give up their Brooklyn pick.

 

[stampedehero]

There are other FA's. We really need a PF.

 

[Sinobas]

Only way we get George is if Indy is convinced he's bolting and they don't want to lose him for nothing. We've seen such players be gotten for scraps plenty of times.

It would take a combo of 1st round picks and decent contracts. Ed Davis, Ezeli, Aminu, Harkless.... I HIGHLY doubt they'll be taking on crabbe or turner or leonard.

Also, you've got to take into account that should we get George, AND resign him to the max, you're talking 4 max players PLUS turner/crabbe/leonard......luxury tax hell.

Maybe Paul wouldn't mind with that kind of talent. But it would just go to prove me right, that you don't want to overload your team with bad contracts, because you never know what might happen.

 

[Scalma]

Crabbe would start in Indiana, so his contract wouldn't look bad. He's also the best player we have to offer outside of the big three.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Crabbe would start in Indiana, so his contract wouldn't look bad. He's also the best player we have to offer outside of the big three.

Middle Class Man's Kyle Korver with Slightly Better Defense isn't a bad chip to put in the pot.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'm assuming we get PG's bird right if we trade for him...

 

[Orion Bailey]

Only way we get George is if Indy is convinced he's bolting and they don't want to lose him for nothing. We've seen such players be gotten for scraps plenty of times.

It would take a combo of 1st round picks and decent contracts. Ed Davis, Ezeli, Aminu, Harkless.... I HIGHLY doubt they'll be taking on crabbe or turner or leonard.

Also, you've got to take into account that should we get George, AND resign him to the max, you're talking 4 max players PLUS turner/crabbe/leonard......luxury tax hell.

Maybe Paul wouldn't mind with that kind of talent. But it would just go to prove me right, that you don't want to overload your team with bad contracts, because you never know what might happen.

right? DMC anyone?

 

[Boise Blazer]

I don't see how that works out either. In 2018/19, Dame will make almost $28,000,000. CJ will be near $26, 000,000 and Nurkic would be in the first year of a contract you would imagine would be around at least $20,000,000. Add what George would be in line for in that season and it's probably more than Dame at around $30,000,000.

That's $104,000,000 on 4 players. They would need almost the entire rest of the roster to be on Rookie scale or Veteran minimum contracts if that were the case. Now you might be able to finally get some of those veterans to come to Portland to play with that lineup with the idea of having a real shot to win.

I absolutely get what you are saying but that makes me wonder about the Warriors. People talk about a 4-5 year run of dominance but Steph is going to get a $25 million RAISE to a salary of $36 million and then Durant is a free agent after next year. They are soooooo lucky that their other All-NBA players make less than Allen Crabbe because of great timing on old style contracts. But seriously if the salary cap was $94 million this year and they were at $107 million then how are they going to do it next year much less the year after with Durant?

 

[julius]

right? DMC anyone?

In most cases, "superstars" are never traded for equal value. They usually get traded for a bunch of crap and picks. Lo-and-behold, Portland has a bunch of crap and picks!

Although, I'm not as sold on PG as some are, his #'s don't excite me that much. Not that I would turn it down, a starting 5 of:

Damian
CJ
Paul George
Tomato Can*
Nurk

Is nicer than anything we have currently.




*despite rumor to the contrary, that is not Meyers Leonards new nickname.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I absolutely get what you are saying but that makes me wonder about the Warriors. People talk about a 4-5 year run of dominance but Steph is going to get a $25 million RAISE to a salary of $36 million and then Durant is a free agent after next year. They are soooooo lucky that their other All-NBA players make less than Allen Crabbe because of great timing on old style contracts. But seriously if the salary cap was $94 million this year and they were at $107 million then how are they going to do it next year much less the year after with Durant?

I know you take wins when you can but this is the reason I think it makes sense for us to wait to go all-in for two years from now. At that point GS is going to have to most likely break up their team because of financial reasons. Of course I wouldn't turn down PG or JB for scraps before then but we do need to do the best we can to keep our salaries in check. Especially with rumors that the cap could actually go down in two years. It is also hard to stay patient though. I understand that.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[BlazerCaravan]

gotta get on the bandwagon early!

 

[Minstrel]

I know you take wins when you can but this is the reason I think it makes sense for us to wait to go all-in for two years from now. At that point GS is going to have to most likely break up their team because of financial reasons.

There's no rules-based reason why the Warriors will have to break up the core. Of course, the cost is going to become explosively large, once repeater taxes are factored in, but their ownership seems committed to spending whatever it takes to win. You probably can't keep up $200M payrolls forever, but if there was ever a time to do it, a core that could produce one of the great dynasties in NBA history is probably the time.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Btw I think people are putting to much into this George to LA stuff. Yes he grew up in LA, but he also wants to win. Lakers still don't have any foundational pieces to build around. Their best player is fucking Julius Randle. If we somehow found a way to land George without giving up our big three, he wouldn't turn down contending for a ring and a bigger contract just so he can go play in his hometown and dap magic johnson. These guys are competitors, not make a wish kids.

A good example: Derozan.

Agreed. And if he does walk? So what, we gave it a shot and it'll be a fun year. I'm getting too old to bake cakes.

 

[PDXFonz]

Nurkic liked CJs tweet, so you can pretty much consider this a done deal.

Now I know why Larry Legend stepped down.

"You give us Paul George now"

 

[BBert]

So I guess we want the Lakers to land outside the top 3 in the lottery right? They'd lose their 2019 pick too. They'd be baaaad for a long time......

Yeah, baby. I could like this post all night long.

 

[BBert]

It may. If they know he's leaving, like we knew Aldridge was leaving, sure. Then again, it's 5 role players, so it may not be enough?

Whenever I see trade ideas like that I always wonder: what in the heck is the other team going to do with 5 (4) new players? Then again, the Blazers sent out 5 for 1 once upon a time, so who knows.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

CJ | George | Nurk

 

[Orion Bailey]

There is a fundamental flaw with this tweet....

 

[BigGameDamian]

There is a fundamental flaw with this tweet....

Reading is fundamental!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Reading is fundamental!

It sure is, though that isnt the fundamental skill required to tweet correctly in this instance. Its knowledge of the Blazer's roster, of which does not have one said Paul George on the team. Pretty sure he meant Pacers. Not Blazers...
Do they not have an edit on Twitter? Dude didn't fix that?????

Uggh. So hard to find quality sports journalists anymore....

And I will say this and probably get some hate, but so far this year, I have really liked Quick. I think he has been fair and balanced for the most part and I think.. .as much as we can expect from any journalist, he cares about the teams success and wants the team to do well.
I do not know him from years past and maybe that is the best, but I like that he is a slow talker who seems to think about what he is saying and values choosing the right words/statements.

 

[PDXFonz]

Sounds like Pritch plans on building around him still, not trading him. Take it with a grain of salt, he's not likely going to come out and say "we are done with this guy, we just want what we can get at this point."

Pritchard said he and star forward Paul George sat down during an exit interview "for 45 minutes or an hour" last week.

"We talked about a lot of different things. In every scenario he talked about being here. That’s important," Pritchard said. "He wants to win. Picking up Lance late in the year made us a better team and got us into the playoffs. We want to win. We want successful teams year in and year out, and that has to do with Paul. He wants to win, the Pacers want to win, we’re on the same page.”

http://www.indystar.com/story/sport...in-pritchard-address-pacers-future/101155116/

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Nikolokolus]

It sure is, though that isnt the fundamental skill required to tweet correctly in this instance. Its knowledge of the Blazer's roster, of which does not have one said Paul George on the team. Pretty sure he meant Pacers. Not Blazers...
Do they not have an edit on Twitter? Dude didn't fix that?????

Uggh. So hard to find quality sports journalists anymore....

And I will say this and probably get some hate, but so far this year, I have really liked Quick. I think he has been fair and balanced for the most part and I think.. .as much as we can expect from any journalist, he cares about the teams success and wants the team to do well.
I do not know him from years past and maybe that is the best, but I like that he is a slow talker who seems to think about what he is saying and values choosing the right words/statements.

Whoosh!!!

Do you know what that sound was?