Meyers Leonard (Shoulder) Likely Out A Minimum Of 4-6 Weeks

[LizardKing]

Kaman is over the hill. His best contribution is as a coach for the youngsters.

Better not to waste court time with Chris. Let him teach - whilst the younger guys get the bulk of court time/experience.

Obviously the young guys need experience, but Kaman is still a quality post player who can demonstrate to the young un's how to win late in the game. His passing skills and team D alone would all but cure what has ailed our team thus far(minus backcourt D, but Henderson will see to that). I'm not suggesting extended burn, but he will help us win games now-- Not as an individual, but as part of a team. A reliable pick and roll option who can shoot the 12-15 footer and pass to the open man in the 4 on 3 should not be overlooked.

Not to mention, playing him over guys like Alexander and Vonleh should make them try all the harder to get in the game

 

[Draco]

I hate to say it (Meyers seems like nice kid), but this injury will probably turn out good for the Blazers team.

Meyers may as well have been sitting in the stands so far this season. I've never seen an NBA player that 'Watches' so much, or gives up half way through a play.
He'll literally have an opponent right next to him, and he'll shy away and watch what their move is going to be - all the while giving up position.
Or he'll attempt to make a play and realize he's not in the best position or a little late - so he just gives up - MID PLAY. Unbelievable!

I was begging for him to be pulled off of the court against the Spurs.

Can we give the playing time to a professional, who is focused on their job, and willing to tangle it up under the hoop.
I think Leonard would be better suited pursuing a Croquet career. Much more dainty and civilized.

Meyers has very slow reaction times. Some mistake it for lack of effort. He can be a good shooting big man role player but I just don't see him ever being a quality NBA starter.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again: it's time for Meyers to bulk up that muscle. He's got the right frame to be Dwight Howard's size with muscle mass.

 

[THE HCP]

Haven't had a chance to read your posts on Kaman. One thing I want add, a lot of people don't know this, but he has a very interesting relationship with Dame. They are real close. Kaman will sit down and they have some real cool conversations.

 

[Draco]

Kaman is over the hill. His best contribution is as a coach for the youngsters.

Better not to waste court time with Chris. Let him teach - whilst the younger guys get the bulk of court time/experience.

Playing Kaman 15mpg will still let the young guys get all the minutes they can. Cliff and Ed can't shoot to play with Plumlee, and Vonleh probably isn't ready to be put in a starting role so Kaman gets the nod in big matchup by default. I expect Noah and Ed to have more minutes that him.

 

[LizardKing]

Meyers has very slow reaction times. Some mistake it for lack of effort. He can be a good shooting big man role player but I just don't see him ever being a quality NBA starter.

Slow reaction is a lack of effort. If he was engaged in the flow of the game he would be able to anticipate a lot of the troubles he runs (or stands passively) into. Perhaps he has problems with attention span or something similar, but he is quick as a cat when he knows where he's going. He should be much quicker on the draw defensively, especially with weakside rim protection, than he is and it's because he is not focused on the game.

 

[LizardKing]

Playing Kaman 15mpg will still let the young guys get all the minutes they can. Cliff and Ed can't shoot to play with Plumlee, and Vonleh probably isn't ready to be put in a starting role so Kaman gets the nod in big matchup by default. I expect Noah and Ed to have more minutes that him.

well said.

Also his passing is the best (yes, you too Mason) of any big on our roster. Great vision out of the post or on the face up.

Also the spins. Gotta love those spins

 

[Natebishop3]

I would start Vonleh. Throw him in and see what the kid can do without the quick hook.

 

[Draco]

I would start Vonleh. Throw him in and see what the kid can do without the quick hook.

If he was playing well off the bench this year than sure. But he's literally been the worst player on our roster for weeks; exposing him even more and getting outplayed against all stars could set his development back months.

 

[Natebishop3]

If he was playing well off the bench this year than sure. But he's literally been the worst player on our roster for weeks; exposing him even more and getting outplayed against all stars could set his development back months.

Jermaine O'Neal looked horrible as well until he got to Indy and they put him out there and said just relax and play your game. Young guys press too much. They're afraid of making mistakes. Some players don't play well off the bench. What do we have to lose? Just make it clear that we expect him to make mistakes and to just relax and play.

 

[LizardKing]

I don't know if it's the music or what, but I can't stop watching this



Breaking news, Kaman gets the start. Boom.

 

[42N8Bounce]

What would the max we could offer while still having a max offer available for a FA this summer? I bet it was a hair below that.

If we assume the CAP will be about $89M, then the max salary of a 0-6 yr vet will be about $21M. The max salary of a 7-9 yr vet will be about $25M. Some variables are Harkless ($7.2M cap hold), Crabbe ($1.2M cap hold), and Frazier ($1.1M cap hold). We need to throw in about $2.5M for a first round draft choice (about #8).

All those things considered, the Blazers will have about $23M in cap space. That means we could offer Meyers Leonard up to about $9.5M/yr and still have enough to offer a 0-6 yr vet max money.

 

[LizardKing]

Over/Under on spin moves per touch? I'm going with a solid 50%

 

[Draco]

Jermaine O'Neal looked horrible as well until he got to Indy and they put him out there and said just relax and play your game. Young guys press too much. They're afraid of making mistakes. Some players don't play well off the bench. What do we have to lose? Just make it clear that we expect him to make mistakes and to just relax and play.

That was Jermaines what 6th year in the league? This is Vonleh 2nd and arguably his first since he was injured so much of last year.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Kaman has no business playing on our team. And sure he's a fine passer, but I got tired of him being a black hole down low and getting stripped ALL THE TIME last year.

 

[Orion Bailey]

http://www.csnnw.com/blazers/expert...eonard-could-miss-least-month-shoulder-injury

I owe everyone and the Blazers an apology. I am to blame for this injury I think.
So I bought his jersey when we won the OT preseason game. I didnt wear it again until I went to the Grizzlies game that we kicked as in. Then we lost every game until this game came up.
I said, you know what? Time to put the Jersey on.... so I wore the Jersey fo the first time since the Grizz win and he gets injured. The thing is, even though we lost the last few games, he was noticeably playing better...Then I put the fucking Jersey on....
Do I just burn it now and get it over with?.....Fuck!

 

[Tunchi]

Haven't had a chance to read your posts on Kaman. One thing I want add, a lot of people don't know this, but he has a very interesting relationship with Dame. They are real close. Kaman will sit down and they have some real cool conversations.

It seems like everybody is cool with Dame

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I owe everyone and the Blazers an apology. I am to blame for this injury I think.
So I bought his jersey when we won the OT preseason game. I didnt wear it again until I went to the Grizzlies game that we kicked as in. Then we lost every game until this game came up.
I said, you know what? Time to put the Jersey on.... so I wore the Jersey fo the first time since the Grizz win and he gets injured. The thing is, even though we lost the last few games, he was noticeably playing better...Then I put the fucking Jersey on....
Just I just burn it now and get it over with?.....Fuck!

LOL!

 

[PDXFonz]

I owe everyone and the Blazers an apology. I am to blame for this injury I think.
So I bought his jersey when we won the OT preseason game. I didnt wear it again until I went to the Grizzlies game that we kicked as in. Then we lost every game until this game came up.
I said, you know what? Time to put the Jersey on.... so I wore the Jersey fo the first time since the Grizz win and he gets injured. The thing is, even though we lost the last few games, he was noticeably playing better...Then I put the fucking Jersey on....
Do I just burn it now and get it over with?.....Fuck!

Personally I don't think it sounds like you are to blame!

 

[Orion Bailey]

Personally I don't think it sounds like you are to blame!

Ohh Im absolutely to blame. I had HCP ask Meyers himself. Yep. He said he felt his Jersey tighten up right before the injury ( that must have been my fat ass pulling it over my head).

Just a testament to the fact that just because your a big white guy, doesn't mean you have to buy the big white guy's Jersey... (Shoulda went with the Zero)

 

[PDXFonz]

Ohh Im absolutely to blame. I had HCP ask Meyers himself. Yep. He said he felt his Jersey tighten up right before the injury ( that must have been my fat ass pulling it over my head).

Just a testament to the fact that just because your a big white guy, doesn't mean you have to buy the big white guy's Jersey... (Shoulda went with the Zero)

But then you'd be responsible for his thumb injury!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Ohh Im absolutely to blame. I had HCP ask Meyers himself. Yep. He said he felt his Jersey tighten up right before the injury ( that must have been my fat ass pulling it over my head).

Just a testament to the fact that just because your a big white guy, doesn't mean you have to buy the big white guy's Jersey... (Shoulda went with the Zero)

I'm to blame for Lillard being so good.

I can't really go into details but my afterlife might be a little on the warm side.

 

[Orion Bailey]

But then you'd be responsible for his thumb injury!

Oh man, great point. If that were the case Im sure Sly would ban my ass then.

 

[adrenalize74]

Without Leonard...

Pau Gasol = 31 pts
Al Jefferson = 29 pts

Say what you will about Leonard's shortcomings, but he is a pretty good man defender (on Centers)

 

[B-Roy]

Without Leonard...

Pau Gasol = 31 pts
Al Jefferson = 29 pts

Say what you will about Leonard's shortcomings, but he is a pretty good man defender (on Centers)

Can't teach size.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Without Leonard...

Pau Gasol = 31 pts
Al Jefferson = 29 pts

Say what you will about Leonard's shortcomings, but he is a pretty good man defender (on Centers)

He hasn't really been guarding centers this year though..

 

[Draco]

Without Leonard...

Pau Gasol = 31 pts
Al Jefferson = 29 pts

Say what you will about Leonard's shortcomings, but he is a pretty good man defender (on Centers)

Leonard would help us guard Pau Gasol?

Impressive since the Blazers haven't played him.

He hasn't really been guarding centers this year though..

Nor has he guarded any players we haven't played. What a slacker.

 

[LizardKing]

Does anyone read John Schuman's power rankings on NBA.com? The dude has Boston at 6 and Indy at 7.... Like.... is he even trying...?

 

[B-Roy]

Does anyone know what is going on with Meyers? No one is giving an exact timeline, he's listed as day-to-day. So if all of a sudden he's feeling well, they're going to let him play?

 

[LizardKing]

Does anyone know what is going on with Meyers? No one is giving an exact timeline, he's listed as day-to-day. So if all of a sudden he's feeling well, they're going to let him play?

I heard 4 to 6 weeks, but I think it has a lot to do with pain tolerance