Meyers Must Go

[Draco]

I've changed my opinion; the Blazers shouldn't bring Meyers back at any price. I used to think he'd be a good option as a Matt Bonner style role player. But now I believe some of you are right; he's Andrea Bargnani without the handles.

Meyers I wish the best to you as a person, I like your humble upbringing story, and I think you're a great guy. I don't want to see you play for my favorite basketball team ever again.

If you agree he needs to go this thread is for you.

 

[KingSpeed]

He's one of my three favorite players in the NBA so I want to keep him.

 

[Natebishop3]

He's one of my three favorite players in the NBA so I want to keep him.

You're comfortable paying him 10+ million per year? Because some dumb team is going to offer him 10+ million per year.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I'd rather pay someone else 10 million a year but he's a decent 4th big. He's an NBA player, to the chagrin of many.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'd rather pay someone else 10 million a year but he's a decent 4th big. He's an NBA player, to the chagrin of many.

Jack Haley was technically an NBA player too. Best damn towel waiver in the history of the league.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I guess we will see his value on the open market. I doubt the Blazers bring him back at 10+MM though.

 

[ripcityboy]

Don't care really. If we can replace him witha better player fjne. But if we can get him cheap then he has a value. Focus on what a player can do not what they can't. Even if it isn't much.

 

[riverman]

Mo Harkless had a heck of a game tonight so I haven't given Meyers a lot of thought

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

He's looking for something in the $15m-17m/per range.

I think Neil will gladly let him walk.

He's essentially Andrea Bargnani. Maybe he can flip a switch - bigs take a lot longer to develop - but MyLo wants a max deal.

No.

Thanks.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Meyers struggled early, but his 3FG% improved every month of the year:

Oct: 3FG% = .154
Nov: 3FG% = .280
Dec: 3FG% = .360
Jan: 3FG% = .414
Feb: 3FG% = .452
Mar: 3FG% = .462

For calendar year 2016, he's our best 3-point shooter (.435 3FG% - C.J. is a close second at .429).

He also averaged 12.2 reb/36 in March.

If we get that Meyers, I'd be happy with bringing him back. That's very good production for a bench player. I also think we'll miss his ability to space the floor in the playoffs. Having him out at the 3-point line draws an opposing big man out of the paint, which makes it easier for Dame and C.J. to get to the rim.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

If I'm Olshey I'm definitely setting a $ limit when it comes to Leonard. Some loser team out there will probably go over it so I'm not expecting him back either. Harkless, Crabbe, and even Henderson are ahead of him on the priority list.

 

[Boob-No-More]

He's looking for something in the $15m-17m/per range.

Link please.

He's essentially Andrea Bargnani.

Actually, he's not. I know that's the Meyers haters' favorite comparison, but it's not accurate. Bargnani's supposed strength was his range for a 7-footer, but Meyers is a better 3-point shooter (.385 career 3FG% vs. ,354 for Bargnani).

Bargnani is one of the worst rebounding 7-footers in the history of the game, second only to Brad Sellers. His career TRB% is 9.5, his career best is 10.4 and he's had 7 seasons of TRB% <10.0. Meyers Leonard has a career TRB% = 13.7 and his career low is 12.3 his rookie year. Meyer's may not be anyone's ideal big man, but he's a decent back up big man and way better than Andrea Bargnani.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

If I'm Olshey I'm definitely setting a $ limit when it comes to Leonard. Some loser team out there will probably go over it so I'm not expecting him back either. Harkless, Crabbe, and even Henderson are ahead of him on the priority list.

Yep, if the money makes sense, resign him, If not let him walk. The injury hurt his value. So, maybe others will shy away from giving him a ridiculous offer, but he is young and big and can shoot the three, so someone may get crazy and overpay him. If so, wish him well and SPAM elsewhere.

BNM

 

[Rhal]

all depends on the $$. He is young and has improved in areas of his game, yes he is about as frustrating to watch as Batum was but we don't have a championship window we are chasing and quiet frankly we are probably 1 to 2 years away at least from being a top seed in the west so paying a young player who has shown potential isn't a bad thing. This league is littered with players who are young and were seen as overpaid then played into their contract or above it. Paying Leonard somewhere between 8-12 a year isn't going to kill us when the cap is 90+ for the foreseeable future especially if we can get him on a contract with a team option at the end of it.

 

[BlayZa]

the thought of paying meyers 8-10m a year for the level of frustration and lack of everything he brings makes me sick to my stomach.

let. him walk.

although, can't wait to see what he gets offered.

dream scenario is LA signs him to a max deal.

he isnt gonna bang, he isnt gonna be a force on D, he isnt going to protect the rim and crash the boards, and he isnt gonna ever start again. at least never ahead of Plum or Davis.
waste o time.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

This one is all about the money..you don't over pay him. He has value...but don't over pay

 

[Strenuus]

This one is all about the money..you don't over pay him. He has value...but don't over pay

This is how I feel... and I was one of his ardent detractors... but he does have some value... but not $10m/year value.

 

[HailBlazers]

all depends on the $$. He is young and has improved in areas of his game, yes he is about as frustrating to watch as Batum was but we don't have a championship window we are chasing and quiet frankly we are probably 1 to 2 years away at least from being a top seed in the west so paying a young player who has shown potential isn't a bad thing. This league is littered with players who are young and were seen as overpaid then played into their contract or above it. Paying Leonard somewhere between 8-12 a year isn't going to kill us when the cap is 90+ for the foreseeable future especially if we can get him on a contract with a team option at the end of it.

Furthermore he's definitely tradeable at that rate. Like it or not this has become a stretch big league. So No, Meyers "must-int" go.

IMO, we haven't seen his ceiling. Slow learner as it were, but the kid works hard. If he could get that baby hook down I'd love to keep him around.

 

[HailBlazers]

This is how I feel... and I was one of his ardent detractors... but he does have some value... but not $10m/year value.

It's all relative to the cap my friend, which is about to explode.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Its all about the money, but he does bring a couple of things to the table we do need and don't have currently. Though they are not glaring needs.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

This is how I feel... and I was one of his ardent detractors... but he does have some value... but not $10m/year value.

My guess is that he turned down 10-12 mil/year already, "betting on himself."

Neil will probably tell him to go out and sign a contract, and then the Blazers will decide whether to match.... after we've spent our $$$$.

 

[illmatic99]

Neil will probably tell him to go out and sign a contract, and then the Blazers will decide whether to match.... after we've spent our $$$$.

Still gotta extend the QO to match any offer. Minor issue, but his caphold will remain on our books regardless of when we match.

 

[B-Roy]

Still gotta extend the QO to match any offer. Minor issue, but his caphold will remain on our books regardless of when we match.

You can always extend the QO and then rescind it if you get a commitment from someone else.

 

[SIeepwalker]

I'd be willing to resign him but only for twenty dollars a year.

 

[HailBlazers]

I'd be willing to resign him but only for twenty million dollars a year.

No way he gets a Super Max.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Well, if I understand the situation correctly, this year will be the only time we have enough cap space to sign a major free agent for awhile. So, I guess if we cannot sign Durant or Horford, then we should sign Myers. Because at that point we would need to look for a trade at some point to get a major player, and Myers would be one (of many) assets we would have.

 

[rotary111]

Baby Sabas is reportedly hiring an agent and officially entering the draft. Any chance we can sign and trade Meyers and pieces to get up high enough to get him? Mock drafts have him all over the board.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Baby Sabas is reportedly hiring an agent and officially entering the draft. Any chance we can sign and trade Meyers and pieces to get up high enough to get him? Mock drafts have him all over the board.

Would love to get him but I think he will go higher at some point then most draft boards specify currently.

 

[Draco]

Meyers has physical defensive limitations. He has slow reactions. His body is too big relative to his wingspan. Opponents can exploit his deficiencies when the games matter most. Even if he shows improvements during the regular season he will be a liability against better teams in the playoffs when opponents can scheme for him.

His offensive shooting isn't as helpful as his percentages suggest because of his slow release. He can't get off many attempts. Even shooting 37.7% 3's he had a PER of 11.4; terrible for an offensive player. Ed Davis and Plumlee have PER's of 18.7 and 16.9. Harkless with his exceptional defense (which PER ignores) has a PER of 13.4. Last year when Meyers was shooting an unreal 42% threes he had a PER of 14.8; below average and inexcusable for an offensive player.

Meyers has horrific moves inside the free throw line, on offense or defense. He commits dumb fouls. He doesn't get loose balls. He doesn't hustle. All his moves are slow and predictable on both ends. He will take minutes away from other players with greater potential.

Meyers Must Go!

 

[Denny Crane]

Link please.



Actually, he's not. I know that's the Meyers haters' favorite comparison, but it's not accurate. Bargnani's supposed strength was his range for a 7-footer, but Meyers is a better 3-point shooter (.385 career 3FG% vs. ,354 for Bargnani).

Bargnani is one of the worst rebounding 7-footers in the history of the game, second only to Brad Sellers. His career TRB% is 9.5, his career best is 10.4 and he's had 7 seasons of TRB% <10.0. Meyers Leonard has a career TRB% = 13.7 and his career low is 12.3 his rookie year. Meyer's may not be anyone's ideal big man, but he's a decent back up big man and way better than Andrea Bargnani.

BNM

I see him as quite a bit better than Bargnani in all respects. The similarity is they're both 7' and shoot a lot of 3pt shots. Bargnani isn't even close to being the athlete that Meyers is. And Leonard is much more of a presence on defense.

I would keep him as long as his salary is reasonable. $10M is probably reasonable.