Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexually'

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I am against rape. Clearly, you're for racism, which is where we diverge.

I'm not for racism. You jump to silly conclusions.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Conspiracy nut is what I think everytime I read a Libertarian say that a big country can function with Big Business making the decisions. That would require quite an incredible conspiracy. Your theory won't work in the real world.

No libertarian says such things.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I'm not for racism. You jump to silly conclusions.

You said you were fine with parents pressing charges if race was their reason for doing so.

 

[jlprk]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

He also said that children should be free to marry each other at any age. But no one's held him to it. Too much other low-hanging fruit to feed on.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

You said you were fine with parents pressing charges if race was their reason for doing so.

I don't think a prosecutor would oblige. The girl has to assist in the prosecution.

Meanwhile , you would stand idly by as tens of thousands of girls get raped.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

He also said that children should be free to marry each other at any age. But no one's held him to it. Too much other low-hanging fruit to feed on.

Lol. Making stuff up again.

 

[jlprk]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Just to be clear. I'd add that I support marriage for anyone who is of age and wants it. The Libertarian position says extend the same rights as marriage. I'm not sure what they fully mean.

Without parents' consent? Yet you want a boy aged 18 in jail for sex with his girlfriend aged 17, unless her parents consent to her having sex.

You later inserted "is of age and" after I pointed out the logical consequence. So you have super-editing powers. Hmm.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I made no edit.

 

[barfo]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I don't think a prosecutor would oblige. The girl has to assist in the prosecution.

Really, the girl has to assist in a statutory rape case? I'm not sure that's true.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Meanwhile , you would stand idly by as tens of thousands of girls get raped.

No more so than allowing 23 year olds to have sex with 22 year olds. I'm not sure 18 year olds having sex with 17 year olds without automatic prosecutions opens up an extra wave of rape.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Really, the girl has to assist in a statutory rape case? I'm not sure that's true.

barfo

Read what the lady professor from Princeton wrote. I posted the link earlier.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

No more so than allowing 23 year olds to have sex with 22 year olds. I'm not sure 18 year olds having sex with 17 year olds without automatic prosecutions opens up an extra wave of rape.

How about 18 year olds with 14 year olds?

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

How about 18 year olds with 14 year olds?

Sounds wrong. I was talking about similar ages. 17 and 17, 18 and 17, 17 and 16. That sort of stuff. If you think an 18 year old having a 14 year old boyfriend/girlfriend is cool, that's on you, man.

 

[Denny Crane]

Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

Sounds wrong. I was talking about similar ages. 17 and 17, 18 and 17, 17 and 16. That sort of stuff. If you think an 18 year old having a 14 year old boyfriend/girlfriend is cool, that's on you, man.

I don't. Tho I'm 4 years older than my wife.

How about 12 and 13 year olds? You have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

I don't. Tho I'm 4 years older than my wife.

How about 12 and 13 year olds? You have to draw the line somewhere.

Why, out of curiosity? To be clear, I don't think 12 and 13 year olds should be having sex, but who do you prosecute for that? The 13 year old?

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

Why, out of curiosity? To be clear, I don't think 12 and 13 year olds should be having sex, but who do you prosecute for that? The 13 year old?

Yep.

You want 13 year old girls getting pregnant?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

I don't. Tho I'm 4 years older than my wife.

How about 12 and 13 year olds? You have to draw the line somewhere.

Did you marry her when she was 14? She must have been the prettiest bride in junior high.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

Yep.

You want 13 year old girls getting pregnant?

No, I most surely do not, sir. However, I'm not convinced that the 13 year old is so much more worldly wise than the 12 year old that he/she is the/a criminal. I mean, if you want to prosecute both for corrupting a minor, that at least seems coherent, though silly. Blaming one and criminalizing one doesn't even seem coherent.

 

[barfo]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

They're responsible for their children. To protect them from teen pregnancy by older men, rape, STDs, etc.

And an 18 year old is in your opinion an 'older man' to a 17 year old?

Read what the law professor from Princeton wrote.

I imagine this is a reference to one of the prior 148 messages in this thread, but I'm afraid I'm too lazy to reread them all to find it.

You're on the wrong side of the argument as usual.

Maybe. You seem to be on the extreme parental control side, one that I would not have guessed that a freedom-lover like you would take.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

Did you marry her when she was 14? She must have been the prettiest bride in junior high.

Nope. I'm not the one arguing age doesn't matter .

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

And an 18 year old is in your opinion an 'older man' to a 17 year old?



I imagine this is a reference to one of the prior 148 messages in this thread, but I'm afraid I'm too lazy to reread them all to find it.



Maybe. You seem to be on the extreme parental control side, one that I would not guess that a freedom-lover like you would take.

barfo

I see you can be wrong and lazy.

 

[barfo]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

I see you can be wrong and lazy.

And an asshole to poor uneducated chocolate-deprived people, don't forget that.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

And an asshole to poor uneducated chocolate-deprived people, don't forget that.

barfo

Hey, no personal attacks.

 

[Denny Crane]

Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

And an asshole to poor uneducated chocolate-deprived people, don't forget that.

barfo

Go read what the lady professor wrote.

She goes over the pros and cons of age of consent laws, racial issues , and how often such cases are prosecuted, as well as burden of proof .

And how the laws put pedophiles and rapists in jail.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

And SLYPOKER DOG an asshole to poor uneducated chocolate-deprived people, don't forget that.

Edited by Minstrel.

 

[barfo]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sex...

Go read what the lady professor wrote.

Is it a law professor, or a lady professor? I actually studied ladies in college (well, they weren't ladies exactly...) so I know something of that subject. Law, not so much.

She goes over the pros and cons of age of consent laws, racial issues , and how often such cases are prosecuted, as well as burden of proof .

And how the laws put pedophiles and rapists in jail.

Hey, if you want me to read it, provide me the link. Lazy, remember?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/13/findlaw.analysis.colb.statutory.rape/index.html?iref=allsearch

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

Edited by Minstrel.

I am an asshole.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

You have an opinion, too.

 

[barfo]

Re: Michele Bachmann: Gays Want To Let Adults 'Freely Prey On Little Children Sexuall

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/13/findlaw.analysis.colb.statutory.rape/index.html?iref=allsearch

Thanks for the link Denny.

Now, about the contents of that link. I hardly think it supports your argument in the way you think it does. Her strongest argument for statutory rape laws is that it makes the job of prosecutor easier. I'm sure that's true, but I'm also sure that I don't much care about making life easier for prosecutors.

barfo