Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement! (1 Viewer)

[Sheldon Shape]

It's never been about nuclear weapons. When Obama made that deal, Israel hated it and lobbied Trump to get out as soon as he took the presidency. This is about erasing any nations who acknowledge the Palestinian right to their land. Today it is Iran. Tomorrow will be Pakistan as Bibi has said. After that will be Yemen. All those other Arab nations have leaders that have been produced by the West.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Out: SlyPokerDog

In: SlyIsraeliDog

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[2Fluffy4U]

Another false narrative conveyed: "Deliberately sabotaging".. right. Trump himself said he knew about the attack prior - meaning he could have stopped it if wanted. This is no way sabotaging, but as noted previously - a good cop bad cop carrot and a stick negotiation tactic.
But let Sanders paint your picutres any day - don't be surprised the painting is monochromatic for colorblind.. (i.e easy to digest propaganda)

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Did you just combine Israelis and Iranians into one super group?

Kinky!

Just so you know, Fluffy might be the same person from Israel who previously said he has discovered the cure to cancer and I think also invented a perpetual motion machine. Anyone else remember that moniker?

Eh. You are right. For all I know Fluffy could be an AI bot.

But really. Its been my experience Americans, above all, think they are just undisputedly right aBout anything and everything. likely caused by social media influence and algorithms allowing individuals to get feeds full of like minds without any real concept of the actual percentage of America that has that similar thought.

I try to read up and stay informed, but I also know its much harder to find the truth anymore, and the further away the info is coming from, I find it harder to trust.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

We proved we'd fully entered the dark place in 2016.

Been trying to dig out ever since... Except, you know. 2024...

Some of the atrocities we see in today’s world were conceived long before Trumps first term. The sooner people recognize this, the sooner we can stop pointing fingers and start finding answers.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

But at the same time, should someone who lives on the other side of the world take your word for everything US related, just because you live here?

It's possible to be local and also wrong about stuff.

Suppose I'd told him the meaning of Rip City had to do with "holding onto your shorts" whenever a trade was rumored?

barfo

I am wrong. You are correct for the most part due to the derailment of honesty in our society.
I hardly trust anyone these days due to personal experience or the obvious mass scamming I encounter on a daily basis(scam calls, texts, friend requests, etc.)

Ut this is my inner battle because my default is to trust until it is lost. Not force people to earn trust because of innate distrust. I would prefer to assume people would admit if they don't know something and would only speak on which they know.
This is a me issue. Please carry on, I apologize for the interruption.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

Thank you for posting this. This is a great example for propganda.
Once you search what this JIDF is (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force)
You easily read this was a miniscule organisation that is not even active since 2014 (more than ten years ago). But hey, if I can post this thing and flame the mobs using this as evidence and echo chamber previously instilled notions - why not? Who would prove me irrelevant? I will get my likes and shares and wanted narrative exponentialy expanding.. win win.. (Im referring to the twitter guy, not you Sly)

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Thank you for posting this. This is a great example for propganda.
Once you search what this JIDF is (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force)
You easily read this was a miniscule organisation that is not even active since 2014 (more than ten years ago). But hey, if I can post this thing and flame the mobs using this as evidence and echo chamber previously instilled notions - why not? Who would prove me irrelevant? I will get my likes and shares and wanted narrative exponentialy expanding.. win win.. (Im referring to the twitter guy, not you Sly)

Either AI or a well spoken individual.

Ohhhh another one of dogs games. SlyIsraeliBot


I got it now.

 

[2Fluffy4U]

I wish I was AI..
Wouldn't have to endure my cranky neighbours in the shelter tonight.
Evidence: 03:29 am - the defense system app tells me to go to the bomb shelter (see screen shot)
We have a minute and a half.
I am in charge of closing the door shut once everyone is in.
One old guy took a lot of time so I started half closing it.. his wife who was already inside started screaming at me as if I was about to lock him out. Which obviously I was not..
Just a little sharing story of recent hour..

Speaking of AI, can't put my finger on it but a lof of my students rely heavily on AI when writing today. I can say when reading AI - you get this uncanny feeling that you just know this is AI.. the feeling of something being well written yet because it is almost too clean/too accurate you just know..
(Recently there was a roumor of Deni Avdija season summary letter and I was one of the firsts here to call out AI)..

Well - at least im up to watch the finals.. what are we doing here chatting?! OKC is leading 54-38.. meaning we are going to have a great 4th Q

 

[Phatguysrule]

Some of the atrocities we see in today’s world were conceived long before Trumps first term. The sooner people recognize this, the sooner we can stop pointing fingers and start finding answers.

They were almost all enabled and encouraged by Trump. And it was clear what was going to happen if he was elected.

Anybody who didn't believe project 2025 was exactly what Trump was going to do was absolutely insane.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

They were almost all enabled and encouraged by Trump. And it was clear what was going to happen if he was elected.

Anybody who didn't believe project 2025 was exactly what Trump was going to do was absolutely insane.

Such a singular viewpoint.
Trump didn't invent social media.
The enemy you create is not the real enemy that will detail us.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Such a singular viewpoint.
Trump didn't invent social media.
The enemy you create is not the real enemy that will detail us.

I didn't say Trump invented social media. I said that he enabled and encouraged much of what has gone wrong with it since 2016.

I didn't create Trump. He's real. And he is giving evil people the courage to let their evil out.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

I didn't say Trump invented social media. I said that he enabled and encouraged much of what has gone wrong with it since 2016.

I didn't create Trump. He's real. And he is giving evil people the courage to let their evil out.

If the root of the problem isn't addressed, there will always be a trump to take advantage. He is simply using the tools us fools released in our endless search to make things easier in life.
If not trump, someone else.
Trump is not the problem. He is the problems idea of a solution. He is the hammer. You aren't focusing on the entity that is swinging the hand that wields the trump hammer.
As long as we red and blue each other, nazi and communist each other, the problem is happy. Because we aren't focused on defeating the real problem that births trumps.

 

[Phatguysrule]

If the root of the problem isn't addressed, there will always be a trump to take advantage. He is simply using the tools us fools released in our endless search to make things easier in life.
If not trump, someone else.
Trump is not the problem. He is the problems idea of a solution. He is the hammer. You aren't focusing on the entity that is swinging the hand that wields the trump hammer.
As long as we red and blue each other, nazi and communist each other, the problem is happy. Because we aren't focused on defeating the real problem that births trumps.

Red is the problem. Not enough power or rights for the people and too much power for property (land and money).

Lack of trust in institutions. The deliberate disabling of quality institutions. Privatisation of public services and goods. Artificial scarcity.

The solutions are universal Healthcare, universal education through college (including trades), less corrupt and privatized judicial and law enforcement systems (higher standards for police).

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Red is the problem. Not enough power or rights for the people and too much power for property (land and money).

Lack of trust in institutions. The deliberate disabling of quality institutions. Privatisation of public services and goods. Artificial scarcity.

The solutions are universal Healthcare, universal education through college (including trades), less corrupt and privatized judicial and law enforcement systems (higher standards for police).

An indoctrinated response. Man, i love that you care so much and have such passion and ideas, but no amount of healthcare is going to fix the mental instability social media creates. You can spend all the money in the world on healthcare and you are not addressing the root of the problem.
Until we do address it, people will continue to let social media rule their emotions and behaviors based largely on miss information campaigns, because its a tool meant to do so. There will always be entities in power using it to manipulate the minds of the masses unless we find a solution or remove it from our children's lives.

Until this problem is solved, nothing else will get fixed. We will continue to spiral out of control, each individual feeding off of the anxiety of the next, day by day continually living our lives with more and more stress passing it to each other as it compounds all around us.

Red is not the problem.
Mass miss information is.

 

[Phatguysrule]

An indoctrinated response. Man, i love that you care so much and have such passion and ideas, but no amount of healthcare is going to fix the mental instability social media creates. You can spend all the money in the world on healthcare and you are not addressing the root of the problem.
Until we do address it, people will continue to let social media rule their emotions and behaviors based largely on miss information campaigns, because its a tool meant to do so. There will always be entities in power using it to manipulate the minds of the masses unless we find a solution or remove it from our children's lives.

Until this problem is solved, nothing else will get fixed. We will continue to spiral out of control, each individual feeding off of the anxiety of the next, day by day continually living our lives with more and more stress passing it to each other as it compounds all around us.

Red is not the problem.
Mass miss information is.

The First Amendment protects information.

Educating people to identify misinformation is how you address that problem. And to avoid sources which are rampant with misinformation.

This is what Finland is doing, for example.

And yes, absolutely, mental health professionals can help with this as well. And access to mental healthcare is vital to many of the other problems we have in our country, particularly when it comes to addiction of all kinds.

You lean on and support strong institutions for this.

Red has supported mass misinformation since at least the '80s. Red is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

Thanks largely to their billionaires and the heritage foundation.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

The First Amendment protects information.

Educating people to identify misinformation is how you address that problem. And to avoid sources which are rampant with misinformation.

This is what Finland is doing, for example.

And yes, absolutely, mental health professionals can help with this as well. And access to mental healthcare is vital to many of the other problems we have in our country, particularly when it comes to addiction of all kinds.

You lean on and support strong institutions for this.

Red has supported mass misinformation since at least the '80s. Red is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

Thanks largely to their billionaires and the heritage foundation.

The first amendment has been there since the beginning. The words are great on paper. But in the real world the truth, or factual information, is indeed not being protected, or we wouldn't see all the miss information we see.
Id love to continue this convo actually, but I just remembered something I forgot about.
Ill end with saying i think we both want the same thing, just disagree on what should be the priority to focus on and fix is all.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The first amendment has been there since the beginning. The words are great on paper. But in the real world the truth, or factual information, is indeed not being protected, or we wouldn't see all the miss information we see.
Id love to continue this convo actually, but I just remembered something I forgot about.
Ill end with saying i think we both want the same thing, just disagree on what should be the priority to focus on and fix is all.

The First Amendment is not there to protect the truth. It is there to protect the freedom to speak out.

We cannot legally restrict the rights of people to speak or print misinformation.

We can only educate people to ignore (and call it out) so it is not profitable to do.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Bibi probably blackmailed Trump — Epstein tapes?

This goes against everything Trump campaigned on.

Same WMD song and dance of the Bush administration.

Nukes will be launched imo.

The apocalypse is upon us all

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Iran could resort to unconventional means of retaliation...
IDF underestimated military strength?
Missile attacks kill 8 more... Shuts Down Haifa oil refinery...
Sirens, shakes and sonic booms...
Beijing Advises Chinese citizens to leave Israel ...
NETANYAHU: Could Kill Khameini...
TUCKER CARLSON: Conflict 'End of Trump's Presidency'...
UPDATES...
LIVE FEED...

DAY 5
IDF KILLER DRONES HUNT OVER TEHRAN
IRAN PREPS 'LARGEST' STRIKE
G7 SPLIT
TRUMP LEAVES SUMMIT
USA TO OFFICIALLY JOIN WAR?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Bibi probably blackmailed Trump — Epstein tapes?

This goes against everything Trump campaigned on.

Same WMD song and dance of the Bush administration.

Nukes will be launched imo.

The apocalypse is upon us all

The apocalypse was always upon us as long as Trump had a shot an winning a second term. And certainly once he won.

Conservatives, Corporate Dems, the Tea Party and then MAGA has destroyed this country.

Obama and Biden admins screwed us by not getting enough done that actually mattered, thereby perpetuating the right wing claims that government is incompetent. They were happy to play politics, get nothing done (aside from heritage foundation healthcare), and just blame the other guy.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The first amendment has been there since the beginning. The words are great on paper. But in the real world the truth, or factual information, is indeed not being protected, or we wouldn't see all the miss information we see.
Id love to continue this convo actually, but I just remembered something I forgot about.
Ill end with saying i think we both want the same thing, just disagree on what should be the priority to focus on and fix is all.

I would say that yelling "FIRE" in a crowded movie theater is a crime. That is something that the First Amendment does not protect.

Corporations (or people) who run algorithms that are harmful to society should be deemed to be yelling fire in a crowded theater. Currently, they are protected because as a corporation they required by law to try and make the most money. Which means the more angry and obsessive they can make somebody the more likely they are to click which means they are easier to target and advertise to.

The could be written so that corporations who make money by doing that should have all money that they made doing that taken from them.

This would give corporations incentive to have algorithms that (like the original Google search) just give people access to information.

So they can help them find helpful information. But it can't help them find information that would radicalize them unnaturally.

Maybe this is the kind of thing you're suggesting?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Domino's near the Pentagon is very busy right now.

 

[Hoopguru]

The First Amendment protects information.

Educating people to identify misinformation is how you address that problem. And to avoid sources which are rampant with misinformation.

This is what Finland is doing, for example.

And yes, absolutely, mental health professionals can help with this as well. And access to mental healthcare is vital to many of the other problems we have in our country, particularly when it comes to addiction of all kinds.

You lean on and support strong institutions for this.

Red has supported mass misinformation since at least the '80s. Red is absolutely a huge part of the problem.

Thanks largely to their billionaires and the heritage foundation.

News stations used to believe just provide the info, knowing parents and others were to coach them. Now news stations want to be the parents and provide bias information regardless of accuracy. It all volume driven like mass merchandizers selling cheap shit.

 

[tlongII]

Are you at work? Does your workplace ban Reddit?

No I’m on my iPad in Sunriver.