Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement! (2 Viewers)

[Shaboid]

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/is...walkie-talkies-second-wave-after-pager-attack

Oh shit, Hezbollah did resort to using tin cans and string, and they blew those up too!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/is...walkie-talkies-second-wave-after-pager-attack

Oh shit, Hezbollah did resort to using tin cans and string, and they blew those up too!

It's like the Israelis really are playing 3D chess. Blow up the pagers and force them to use another compromised communications procedure. Gotta wonder how many Hezbollah had those walk-in talkies to their ears when they went off. Can you hear me NOW??? A whole new page in the art of warfare.......

 

[Phatguysrule]

 

[barfo]

Most don't realize how close we came to dying Saturday, but the US leadership had a rare moment of sanity and decided not to execute missiles strikes into russia.

Yep. Just like every other day this week, month, year, century...

Haven't you ever heard the story of The Boy Who Cried WW3?

barfo

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Killing or disabling a couple thousand terrorists without boots on the ground is a helluva solution.

Israel has been caught lying time and time again. To choose this moment to believe that all they did was assassinate a couple thousand terrorists is naive beyond belief.

 

[beast blazer]

Yep. Just like every other day this week, month, year, century...

Haven't you ever heard the story of The Boy Who Cried WW3?

barfo

If that risk isn't legit, then why did the US balk at green-lighting the precision missile attacks?

 

[Phatguysrule]

If that risk isn't legit, then why did the US balk at green-lighting the precision missile attacks?

To bleed Russia dry. The US has no incentive to move this along. The Allies want Russia tied down and stuck in Ukraine for as long as possible.

So either Ukraine is somehow able to strike a blow that destroys Russia or this will go on for a long time until Putin loses power or Russia simply can't do it any longer.

 

[Hoopguru]

Ukraine reminds me of when the CIA supported the Mujahideen to fight the Russians in Afghanistan. I believe it was around an 8 year war. Once the Mujahideen got the stingers to take down helicopters. The war was financed by USA & Saudi as they matched what we committed. Eventually the Russians gave up and left.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

To bleed Russia dry. The US has no incentive to move this along. The Allies want Russia tied down and stuck in Ukraine for as long as possible.

Just sayin', that basically sounds like saying, "Sacrifice Ukrainians to hurt Russia." These are the kind of comments that appear more pro-war than pro-Ukraine/pro-sovereignty.

 

[SharpeScooterShooter]

Breaking down communication and supply lines is generally the best way to win a war

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Even Leon Panetta, former head of CIA and Obama's Secretary of Defense called what Israel did terrorism.

Introducing terrorism in consumer goods is straight up dystopian and has repercussions going forward.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Just sayin', that basically sounds like saying, "Sacrifice Ukrainians to hurt Russia." These are the kind of comments that appear more pro-war than pro-Ukraine/pro-sovereignty.

Oh, I understand. It sucks, but that's what I think is going on.

It's not what I would do, but I have morals.

 

[beast blazer]

To bleed Russia dry. The US has no incentive to move this along. The Allies want Russia tied down and stuck in Ukraine for as long as possible.

So either Ukraine is somehow able to strike a blow that destroys Russia or this will go on for a long time until Putin loses power or Russia simply can't do it any longer.

So you're saying the US has the ability to end the war now, but is choosing to prolong it?

(and no that is not all what happened, but it's facinating to see the stories you fabricate, in order to justify the insane policies you support. That in itself would be an act of evil.)

 

[MickZagger]

So you're saying the US has the ability to end the war now, but is choosing to prolong it?

(and no that is not all what happened, but it's facinating to see the stories you fabricate, in order to justify the insane policies you support. That in itself would be an act of evil.)

I’ll facinate you, if you facinate me

 

[Phatguysrule]

So you're saying the US has the ability to end the war now, but is choosing to prolong it?

(and no that is not all what happened, but it's facinating to see the stories you fabricate, in order to justify the insane policies you support. That in itself would be an act of evil.)

No. Nowhere did I say the US has the ability to end the war now. Certainly not without killing an incredibly large number of people and drastically increasing the risk of nuclear fallout.

 

[Kano John]

Israel has been caught lying time and time again. To choose this moment to believe that all they did was assassinate a couple thousand terrorists is naive beyond belief.

What you don't address in your condemnation of Israel and Biden's support of Israel is the fact that Hamas attacked Israel and killed over 1.200 people and took about 250 Israeli hostages. They have continuously refused to agree to any cease fire agreements and now Hezbollah - who are sponsored by Iran are bombing Israel. What do you think would happen to Israel without US military support? You talk like this is a one sided war by Israel on Palestine but there are reasons for this current conflict that you seem to want to ignore.

 

[Hoopguru]

The last thing Iran wants is any kind of Abraham accord with neighboring Arab countries. What role has Iran theocracy played in bringing about peace to the region?

 

[Shaboid]

Iran launching missiles directly. Is it good they aren't hiding behind their proxies anymore? Idk if this counts as an October Surprise, but first on the list I guess..

 

[jonnyboy]

What you don't address in your condemnation of Israel and Biden's support of Israel is the fact that Hamas attacked Israel and killed over 1.200 people and took about 250 Israeli hostages. They have continuously refused to agree to any cease fire agreements and now Hezbollah - who are sponsored by Iran are bombing Israel. What do you think would happen to Israel without US military support? You talk like this is a one sided war by Israel on Palestine but there are reasons for this current conflict that you seem to want to ignore.

It is one sided. It’s not a war, it’s a genocide and land grab, like it’s been since 1948. Israel has murdered tens of thousands of innocent people while crying ‘defense’. Now they are dragging the world into greater conflict. It’s disgusting. They are terrorists and should be cut off from US aid and left to fend for themselves. They are evil.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It is one sided. It’s not a war, it’s a genocide and land grab, like it’s been since 1948. Israel has murdered tens of thousands of innocent people while crying ‘defense’. Now they are dragging the world into greater conflict. It’s disgusting. They are terrorists and should be cut off from US aid and left to fend for themselves. They are evil.

They need to be rid of Bibi and put his ass in jail for war crimes.

Cutting off Israel should not be an option. But we should heavily influence them as a peaceful nation if we're also going to be helping to defend them.

 

[jonnyboy]

They need to be rid of Bibi and put his ass in jail for war crimes.

Cutting off Israel should not be an option. But we should heavily influence them as a peaceful nation if we're also going to be helping to defend them.

One man isn’t responsible. This is all in adherence to the Zionist ideology. You can’t have an American government with Israeli dual citizen Zionists in some of the highest positions and expect the US to “influence” them to be peaceful.
The “beacon of light in the Middle East” lie has been exhausted and terrorist Israel needs to be cut off.

 

[Phatguysrule]

One man isn’t responsible. This is all in adherence to the Zionist ideology. You can’t have an American government with Israeli dual citizen Zionists in some of the highest positions and expect the US to “influence” them to be peaceful.
The “beacon of light in the Middle East” lie has been exhausted and terrorist Israel needs to be cut off.

No but one man can lead. And The majority of Israel wanted him gone before the October 7th attack. We can make an example of him and make positive examples of people who have better ideas and actions.

I don't care about what lies have been told. I care about getting things right now.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[beast blazer]

One man isn’t responsible. This is all in adherence to the Zionist ideology. You can’t have an American government with Israeli dual citizen Zionists in some of the highest positions and expect the US to “influence” them to be peaceful.
The “beacon of light in the Middle East” lie has been exhausted and terrorist Israel needs to be cut off.

I used to feel sorry for them, but they've gone a bit nutty. When you see high ranking official in a debating in a meeting weather or not it's ok to rape inmates, something's really wrong with your society.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I used to feel sorry for them, but they've gone a bit nutty. When you see high ranking official in a debating in a meeting weather or not it's ok to rape inmates, something's really wrong with your society.

There are high rankings officials like that in every country. In every society.

It's not right, but it's definitely not unique.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

There are high rankings officials like that in every country. In every society.

It's not right, but it's definitely not unique.

I'm less concerned about what the high ranking official is saying than what the majority of the society is. There's polling on this stuff. They made the rapist a hero and he even went on game shows and such. Obviously there's a level of brainwashing going on, but at some point they have to take some responsibility and stop doing boat tours and eating BBQ in front of literally starving and dying children.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm less concerned about what the high ranking official is saying than what the majority of the society is. There's polling on this stuff. They made the rapist a hero and he even went on game shows and such. Obviously there's a level of brainwashing going on, but at some point they have to take some responsibility and stop doing boat tours and eating BBQ in front of literally starving and dying children.

Oh I agree. It's not right. But the other side is every bit as brutal. So there's bound to be some of that.

What we can't do is show the Middle East that we're pulling support from them. That will encourage more aggression. We need to apply pressure other ways that do not make it appear Israel is weakened.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Oh I agree. It's not right. But the other side is every bit as brutal. So there's bound to be some of that.

What we can't do is show the Middle East that we're pulling support from them. That will encourage more aggression. We need to apply pressure other ways that do not make it appear Israel is weakened.

Literally 13 Arab nations just offered a peace deal to Israel. They rejected.

This is not a symmetrical issue.

Because Genocide Joe hasn't stepped to them, Israel is now threatening to use Nuclear Weapons on Iran.

Why wouldn't they? They get more money every time they slaughter people.

 

[Hoopguru]

Women
The Iranian government has increased its use of violence and surveillance to punish women who don't wear the hijab, which is mandatory in public. This includes beatings, electric shocks, sexual violence, and arbitrary arrest. The government has also increased the use of the death penalty against women activists and those who supported the 2022 "Woman, Life, Freedom" protests

The sooner the theocratic terrorist mullas are out the better for the Iranian people and the whole Middle East.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Literally 13 Arab nations just offered a peace deal to Israel. They rejected.

This is not a symmetrical issue.

Because Genocide Joe hasn't stepped to them, Israel is now threatening to use Nuclear Weapons on Iran.

Why wouldn't they? They get more money every time they slaughter people.

Yes Netanyahu is rejecting deals. That's not the whole population. Population wanted netanyahu gone before this.

I didn't claim this was symmetrical. Only that it's been brutal and there are feelings on both sides. So there was going to be a faction of very violent angry people on both sides.