Religion Mid East Religious War, Now with added USA Involvement! (2 Viewers)

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We took out the French embassy in Libya because they wouldn't let us fly through their airspace on a Sunday.
 
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PCmor7 said:
Well, I didn't have Israel attacking France on today's bingo card.

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Dude is completely out of control and is threatening to use nuclear weapons. Genocide Joe really needs to step up... Democrats are giving away this election too.
 
Kamala Harris and Doug Emhoff planted a pomegranate tree to commemorate those killed and taken hostage October 7. She also spoke of the destruction and suffering in Gaza.

Trump complained he isn't given enough credit. No one ever did more for Israel and Jews (to him they are identical) than he and they don't reciprocate.
 
crandc said:
Kamala Harris and Doug Emhoff planted a pomegranate tree to commemorate those killed and taken hostage October 7. She also spoke of the destruction and suffering in Gaza.
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Omg thank you! Kamala planted a tree. Don't worry about policy. This tree will do just fine. It's why her lead is slipping and she very well might lose. After a strong start, she's drifting very quickly to the right.

Trump complained he isn't given enough credit. No one ever did more for Israel and Jews (to him they are identical) than he and they don't reciprocate.
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Trump is garbage, but that alone won't earn a vote for the Democrats. They are playing to lose just like '16.
 
Hoopguru said:
Women
The Iranian government has increased its use of violence and surveillance to punish women who don't wear the hijab, which is mandatory in public. This includes beatings, electric shocks, sexual violence, and arbitrary arrest. The government has also increased the use of the death penalty against women activists and those who supported the 2022 "Woman, Life, Freedom" protests

The sooner the theocratic terrorist mullas are out the better for the Iranian people and the whole Middle East.
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Not sure where you got this information from, would be interesting to see a source.
Iran produces more females in the fields of science, medicine and engineering than the United States does. It’s a modern society and despite our meddling, overthrowing and installing of regimes, it has managed to remain a pretty free and peaceful society.
The neocon talking points are hardly effective anymore, at least not outside of the boomersphere.
 
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jonnyboy said:
Not sure where you got this information from, would be interesting to see a source.
Iran produces more females in the fields of science, medicine and engineering than the United States does. It’s a modern society and despite our meddling, overthrowing and installing of regimes, it has managed to remain a pretty free and peaceful society.
The neocon talking points are hardly effective anymore, at least not outside of the boomersphere.
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I wonder how the mullahs/supreme leaders, that ruin the Iranian lives with Sharia law would run Wyoming. Look around at government theocracies and se how many care about human rights for all.
 
jonnyboy said:
Not sure where you got this information from, would be interesting to see a source.
Iran produces more females in the fields of science, medicine and engineering than the United States does. It’s a modern society and despite our meddling, overthrowing and installing of regimes, it has managed to remain a pretty free and peaceful society.
The neocon talking points are hardly effective anymore, at least not outside of the boomersphere.
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Iran: Draconian campaign to enforce compulsory veiling ...Amnesty Internationalhttps://www.amnesty.org › Latest › News › 2024 › 03
 
Hoopguru said:
I wonder how the mullahs/supreme leaders, that ruin the Iranian lives with Sharia law would run Wyoming. Look around at government theocracies and se how many care about human rights for all.
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Hoopguru said:
Iran: Draconian campaign to enforce compulsory veiling ...Amnesty Internationalhttps://www.amnesty.org › Latest › News › 2024 › 03
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There’s nothing great about draconian laws and capital punishment for religious offenses. The problem is, the United States no longer has any ground to stand on when saying “look at what those people over there are doing”.
We are currently allowing and funding a fanatical rogue state (Israel) to carry out genocide and mass murder based on the fulfillment of a religious prophecy. And this same psychotic regime are now trying to drag us into war with Iran under pretenses of the violation of human rights?

Sorry, I’m just not convinced we are actually so concerned about the women of Iran, or that raining down bombs on their heads is the way to liberate them.
 
jonnyboy said:
There’s nothing great about draconian laws and capital punishment for religious offenses. The problem is, the United States no longer has any ground to stand on when saying “look at what those people over there are doing”.
We are currently allowing and funding a fanatical rogue state (Israel) to carry out genocide and mass murder based on the fulfillment of a religious prophecy. And this same psychotic regime are now trying to drag us into war with Iran under pretenses of the violation of human rights?

Sorry, I’m just not convinced we are actually so concerned about the women of Iran, or that raining down bombs on their heads is the way to liberate them.
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A surgical strike on their supreme leader would be a good start. The Iranian people want to be liberated from the oppressive leaders.
Iran: Draconian campaign to enforce compulsory veiling ...Amnesty Internationalhttps://www.amnesty.org › Latest › News › 2024 › 03
 
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jonnyboy said:
Oh is that what they want? Well as long as we as clueless Americans are speaking for people 10,000 miles away…I declare that the Iranian people want the US and Israel to get fucked.
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No the Iranian people they prefer a more western secular culture versus a mullocracy.
 
Hoopguru said:
No the Iranian people they prefer a more western secular culture versus a mullocracy.
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And we can’t help them, or anyone else with that, nor will we. We can sure help liberate them from their oil and resources though.
 
Hoopguru said:
No the Iranian people they prefer a more western secular culture versus a mullocracy.
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They do, but having the U.S. intervene has put the country in the place it is now. They only want nations to prosper if they can get something out of it.

If you want to free the people in Iran, keep Israel and the U.S. out and help the people through back channels, not overt military actions.
 
AmirIcon said:
They do, but having the U.S. intervene has put the country in the place it is now. They only want nations to prosper if they can get something out of it.

If you want to free the people in Iran, keep Israel and the U.S. out and help the people through back channels, not overt military actions.
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Im good with that…
 
AmirIcon said:
They do, but having the U.S. intervene has put the country in the place it is now. They only want nations to prosper if they can get something out of it.

If you want to free the people in Iran, keep Israel and the U.S. out and help the people through back channels, not overt military actions.
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Agreed.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Agreed.
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Im against military action but if Iran continues to creat havoc and support their proxies with aggressive military actions then they should expect to be countered. They need to have the buddies in Yemen back off of the red sea bs.
 
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Hoopguru said:
Im against military action but if Iran continues to creat havoc and support their proxies with aggressive military actions then they should expect to be countered. They need to have the buddies in Yemen back off of the red sea bs.
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The U.S. has proxies would assassinate Iranian scientists. Why shouldn't Iran? The Houthis have correctly targeted our cargo ships. Israel has incorrectly targeted civilians.

I'd take the morality of the Houthis everyday of the week over the genocidal Zionists (both Israeli and American).

Sorry, I'm team humanity.
 
AmirIcon said:
The U.S. has proxies would assassinate Iranian scientists. Why shouldn't Iran? The Houthis have correctly targeted our cargo ships. Israel has incorrectly targeted civilians.

I'd take the morality of the Houthis everyday of the week over the genocidal Zionists (both Israeli and American).

Sorry, I'm team humanity.
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I'd rather just offer the civilians freedom and tolerance based education as well healthcare and services. And have military to defend those schools and hospitals from attack and hunt down individuals who plan and commit violence against these places (no drone strikes or explosives).

A decade or two later and people will love those schools and hospitals and what they stand for and you'll be starting the change that needs to happen.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'd rather just offer the civilians freedom and tolerance based education as well healthcare and services. And have military to defend those schools and hospitals from attack and hunt down individuals who plan and commit violence against these places (no drone strikes or explosives).

A decade or two later and people will love those schools and hospitals and what they stand for and you'll be starting the change that needs to happen.
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What change needs to happen? Maybe they should come here and offer us universal healthcare and free education and you'll be starting the change that needs to happen.
 
AmirIcon said:
What change needs to happen? Maybe they should come here and offer us universal healthcare and free education and you'll be starting the change that needs to happen.
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Who should come here? We should get universal healthcare and free education here without anybody coming here.

The change that needs to happen there is empowering the people. The problems in these areas is that the masses don't have enough power so they are abused by the few who have a big enough gang.

With education, healthcare, and some security they can organize more effectively and without as much fear of retaliation.

Much of most people's problems are due to lack of knowledge and security. Poor and desperate people make poor and desperate choices.
 
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