Mike Budenholzer, anyone?

[Rastapopoulos]

I think it's pretty obvious that the first thing the Bucks will do this offseason (fast approaching for them) is fire Budenholzer. This will be to take Giannis off the hook and also to appeal to him that they're trying to do something. They'll then give him input in the next hire (instead of doing what they should, which is trade Giannis to us).

So... Mike Budenholzer as Trail Blazers coach? Well, we all know it won't happen as long as Olshey's GM, and I'm not even sure it should, but I think Budenholzer is being unfairly demonized for the Bucks' postseason failings. And this person agrees:


But, on the other hand....

 

[Scalma]

No

 

[brooklynballer]

Without question, yes. Bud is in a completely different stratosphere than Stotts.

 

[julius]

Without question, yes. Bud is in a completely different stratosphere than Stotts.

True, as the #1 seed, Terry Stotts coached teams never choked two years in a row.

 

[Hoopguru]

I think it's pretty obvious that the first thing the Bucks will do this offseason (fast approaching for them) is fire Budenholzer. This will be to take Giannis off the hook and also to appeal to him that they're trying to do something. They'll then give him input in the next hire (instead of doing what they should, which is trade Giannis to us).

So... Mike Budenholzer as Trail Blazers coach? Well, we all know it won't happen as long as Olshey's GM, and I'm not even sure it should, but I think Budenholzer is being unfairly demonized for the Bucks' postseason failings. And this person agrees:


But, on the other hand....

What if Giannis wants Bud, like Dame did with Terry?

 

[Buffalo Custard]

All things being equal, he might be a minor upgrade. OTOH, there is something to be said for a fresh voice and perspective. Stotts is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NBA, which is pretty strange for a guy so aggressively average. Even good coaches tend to move on after a few years, simply because their relationship with the locker-room gets stale.

On the third hand (?) real change would require that Olshey be replaced.

 

[Hoopguru]

All things being equal, he might be a minor upgrade. OTOH, there is something to be said for a fresh voice and perspective. Stotts is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NBA, which is pretty strange for a guy so aggressively average. Even good coaches tend to move on after a few years, simply because their relationship with the locker-room gets stale.

On the third hand (?) real change would require that Olshey be replaced.

simple, the reason he is here is that Dame & CJ want him here.

 

[Hoopguru]

Why would Dame want to play for another coach on Portland? He thinks Terry is a very good coach.
On another team, sure.

 

[Chris Craig]

How much is the Bucks record inflated by getting to play against shitty eastern conference teams?

 

[brooklynballer]

True, as the #1 seed, Terry Stotts coached teams never choked two years in a row.

At least Bud’s teams have a .500 winning percentage in the playoffs and a .582 regular season winning percentage. His system may not be perfect but it’s considerably better than Stotts’ iso ball system. Stotts’ career 0.344 win % in the playoffs proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And at least Bud’s teams are competitive in the playoffs and don’t just get swept out of the playoffs year after year like Stotts’ teams. Bud’s body of work, on the whole, is at a completely different level than Stotts and there is no arguing against that.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

At least Bud’s teams have a .500 winning percentage in the playoffs and a .582 regular season winning percentage. His system may not be perfect but it’s considerably better than Stotts’ iso ball system. Stotts’ career 0.344 win % in the playoffs proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And at least Bud’s teams are competitive in the playoffs and don’t just get swept out of the playoffs year after year like Stotts’ teams. Bud’s body of work, on the whole, is at a completely different level than Stotts and there is no arguing against that.

I don't really Trust Bud's system in the playoff's that much more than I trust Stotts'. I believe this will be the third time he's been the #1 seed and lost. I think he would be an upgrade over Stott's, but I'm not sure how much.
Anyone know what his playoff record is?

 

[JDC]

Bud is probably better at adapting his schemes to his personnel but even more slow and stubborn as far as in game adjustments.

And at least Terry plays his best players a lot.

 

[Tince]

He's probably a better coach than Stotts. I don't think we get out of the first round with him this year either though.

Is the marginal improvement worthy of potentially upsetting Dame? That's a question for Olshey I suppose.

 

[julius]

At least Bud’s teams have a .500 winning percentage in the playoffs and a .582 regular season winning percentage. His system may not be perfect but it’s considerably better than Stotts’ iso ball system. Stotts’ career 0.344 win % in the playoffs proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And as the #1 seed in his conference, three times, his coaching has lead them to as many conference finals as Terry Stotts has had.

And at least Bud’s teams are competitive in the playoffs and don’t just get swept out of the playoffs year after year like Stotts’ teams. Bud’s body of work, on the whole, is at a completely different level than Stotts and there is no arguing against that.

Sure, while Terrys teams have been swept, they're A: in a tougher conference and B: never were the #1 seed in their conference. People act like losing to the Pelicans was such a surprise, but the Pelicans had 1 less win than Portland did.

 

[B-Roy]

From what I've seen, Bud seems to have the same problems as Stotts: very stubborn, stick to the gameplan, slow to make adjustments.

 

[e_blazer]

And as the #1 seed in his conference, three times, his coaching has lead them to as many conference finals as Terry Stotts has had.



Sure, while Terrys teams have been swept, they're A: in a tougher conference and B: never were the #1 seed in their conference. People act like losing to the Pelicans was such a surprise, but the Pelicans had 1 less win than Portland did.

C. Were the lower seeded team when they lost for all but one series and never were the top seed.

D. Never had the MVP of the prior season on the roster.

 

[julius]

C. Were the lower seeded team when they lost for all but one series and never were the top seed.

D. Never had the MVP of the prior season on the roster.

Yep! Not saying Im a huge Stotts fan though.

 

[e_blazer]

Yep! Not saying Im a huge Stotts fan though.

You don’t have to be in order to think that people should play fair when putting a guy down.

 

[RR7]

The overachieving regular season stuff with ok roster makes me think of Nate McMillan. No thanks.

 

[e_blazer]

Anyone think that switching Stotts for Budenholzer achieves a win over the Lakers this season, all other factors being equal?

 

[Hoopguru]

Anyone think that switching Stotts for Budenholzer achieves a win over the Lakers this season, all other factors being equal?

Not me.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Anyone think that switching Stotts for Budenholzer achieves a win over the Lakers this season, all other factors being equal?

You're assuming we'd be playing the Lakers.

 

[e_blazer]

You're assuming we'd be playing the Lakers.

You’re right. Bud might not have got us through the seeding games and play-in to make the playoffs.

 

[RR7]

You’re right. Bud might not have got us through the seeding games and play-in to make the playoffs.

He would have played Dame 34 minutes a night, lol

 

[Buffalo Custard]

You’re right. Bud might not have got us through the seeding games and play-in to make the playoffs.

Very possible. Equally possible, he doesn't let the team dig itself into such a deep hole to begin with.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

no doubt about it he's a significant upgrade over Stotts.

 

[e_blazer]

Very possible. Equally possible, he doesn't let the team dig itself into such a deep hole to begin with.

Maybe. I suppose he might have figured out a way to not have Collins injure his shoulder, or Hood not blow his Achilles. Maybe he could have got Nurk back six months earlier. Maybe he could have gotten Olshey to trade for Ariza sooner. But most likely he would have gotten similar results from a thin patchwork roster.

 

[Phatguysrule]

And as the #1 seed in his conference, three times, his coaching has lead them to as many conference finals as Terry Stotts has had.



Sure, while Terrys teams have been swept, they're A: in a tougher conference and B: never were the #1 seed in their conference. People act like losing to the Pelicans was such a surprise, but the Pelicans had 1 less win than Portland did.

And killed the Pelicans killed Portland during the regular season when they were healthy.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

Maybe. I suppose he might have figured out a way to not have Collins injure his shoulder, or Hood not blow his Achilles. Maybe he could have got Nurk back six months earlier. Maybe he could have gotten Olshey to trade for Ariza sooner. But most likely he would have gotten similar results from a thin patchwork roster.

Risk v reward. My worthless opinion is that Bud is a somewhat better regular season coach, but just as weak in the play-offs. Bottom line, I can't get emotionally invested in defending either one.

 

[James lamphear]

Stotts will be here as long as olshey is here. The only way I see Stotts leaving is he just wants to move take another head coaching job some where else. As long this owner not getting involved in this s team and allow olshey runs basketball operation we will just a average team that's makes the playoffs.