Mike Budenholzer, anyone?

[SharpesTriumph]

Brook and Giannis for
CJ Trent Collins Little Simons and PDX first round picks in 2020 2022 2024 2026 and MIL has rights to swap in 2021 2023 2025

That would be about as costly to PDX as possible to make it.

Dame
?
Ariza
Giannis
Nurk - Brook

Ok I don't think I would do that...the Blazers would not contend over 82 games with that depth chart, as well as have the worst draft picks in NBA history.


But I agree its crazy to hear PDX in these rumors!

 

[damianlillard]

cj + collins + simmons + picks in perpetuity for Giannis + Hill

ok dream over.

That’s my dream trade and it’s actually becoming more and more realistic by the day haha. I would trade the whole team beside Dame and if possible Trent too. The dame/Giannis duo would be the best combo since Kobe/Shaq

 

[KSF-ERIC]

I'd like Dame to get a shot as the #1 seed. He's never been close to that. It would also be nice to get HCA early and rest a bit instead of being driven into the ground. After that, I'll take my chances.

Dame was 4 games behind the #1 seed in 2018-19. But I hear you.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Your standard seems extremely subjective & influenced by your personal bias.
#8 out of 15 puts him at 53%. At best, that puts him mediocre...

But we should look at winning percentage (as long as the sample size is large enough - hence why I said of the coaches with >30 playoff games). A larger sample size helps normalize for variables such as HCA.

Stotts doesn't perform very well by the winning percentage metric. He's on par with Nate McMillan - who we can hopefully agree is mediocre at best.

8 out of 15 PLAYOFF teams so no, not mediocre.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Your standard seems extremely subjective & influenced by your personal bias.
#8 out of 15 puts him at 53%. At best, that puts him mediocre...

But we should look at winning percentage (as long as the sample size is large enough - hence why I said of the coaches with >30 playoff games). A larger sample size helps normalize for variables such as HCA.

Stotts doesn't perform very well by the winning percentage metric. He's on par with Nate McMillan - who we can hopefully agree is mediocre at best.

Nate McMillan hasn’t coached any team to the conference finals and he has coached a LONG time.

 

[calvin natt]

Bucks forum: damn Bud sucks. Would you trade him for the Blazers coach who got them into the playoffs with all those injuries?! (Resounding Yes)

 

[kjironman1]

Bucks forum: damn Bud sucks. Would you trade him for the Blazers coach who got them into the playoffs with all those injuries?! (Resounding Yes)

Yeah the positions have most certainly changed a bit. A month ago you could have asked in here if the Blazers could get Bud it would have been pretty much unanimous and resounding YES!

 

[Hoopguru]

Bucks forum: damn Bud sucks. Would you trade him for the Blazers coach who got them into the playoffs with all those injuries?! (Resounding Yes)

He coached the Bucks and they fired him.

 

[tester551]

Nate McMillan hasn’t coached any team to the conference finals and he has coached a LONG time.

Nate has been a head coach for 16 years and has a winning percentage of 0.529

Stotts has been head coach 12 years, & has a winning percentage of 0.510

Both are in the same tier of coaches. Mediocre.... Stotts made it to the conference finals one time - where they got swept. Not exactly an achievement worth of accolades.

 

[Stevenson]

(S2, 2023, Season 2 of Budenhozer as coach):

"I can't believe this guy's rotations!" "He's wasting Dame's prime years!" "I told you all we should have kept Stotts." "We gotta fire this guy and hire Dwayne Casey."

No thanks.

 

[kjironman1]

He coached the Bucks and they fired him.

Ha Ha Ha! So true!

Now they want Stotts back!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I will NOT be posting a "Billy Donovan, anyone?" thread

 

[Buffalo Custard]

I will NOT be posting a "Billy Donovan, anyone?" thread

I find it interesting that everyone thinks he stinks, but he has a better career W-L record than Stotts!

edit: Stotts .510/.344 Donovan .608/.439

 

[Tince]

I find it interesting that everyone thinks he stinks, but he has a better career W-L record than Stotts!

edit: Stotts .510/.344 Donovan .608/.439

I think part of it is because he had 2 all-nba players (1 former MVP) on his roster last year and couldn't get out of the 1st round. I don't believe Stotts has even had more than 1 all-star on his roster at any point.

 

[lawai'a]

dame broke the franchise with that shot!
westbrook , PG13, now donovan.

 

[illmatic99]

will they let Bud get on the team plane tomorrow, or he gonna get the axe later in the week?

 

[damianlillard]

I think part of it is because he had 2 all-nba players (1 former MVP) on his roster last year and couldn't get out of the 1st round. I don't believe Stotts has even had more than 1 all-star on his roster at any point.

He had Dame and Aldridge as all stars in their last 2 year together. They were a title contender in 2015 until Wesley went down. Unfortunately that was the last time the blazers were a legit title contender cause dame haven’t had an all star teammate since

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I find it interesting that everyone thinks he stinks, but he has a better career W-L record than Stotts!

edit: Stotts .510/.344 Donovan .608/.439

 

[handiman]

It's tough to not exceed [very low] expectations when you have Chris Paul running the show.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

It's tough to not exceed [very low] expectations when you have Chris Paul running the show.

So, just like Stotts with Dame, but more successful?

 

[handiman]

So, just like Stotts with Dame, but more successful?

Slightly similar, but no, not really. CP is one of the all-time great floor generals. People around him significantly up their play, more often than not. Dame is on the short list of best shooters ever, with leadership to match. But floor general-ship is by far the weakest element of his game. The team doesn't really drop off when he misses time (look at how much faster everyone played in game 5 against the Lakers with Dame out due to the knee), because they play down to his pace instead of him lifting them up.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Not being fired:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259528/Mike-Budenholzer-Wont-Be-Fired-By-Bucks

 

[blazerkor]

Slightly similar, but no, not really. CP is one of the all-time great floor generals. People around him significantly up their play, more often than not. Dame is on the short list of best shooters ever, with leadership to match. But floor general-ship is by far the weakest element of his game. The team doesn't really drop off when he misses time (look at how much faster everyone played in game 5 against the Lakers with Dame out due to the knee), because they play down to his pace instead of him lifting them up.

Might that be because he has been playing with CJ who is completely redundant and is a net negative defender when Dame is pretty much a neutral defender. What I mean to say is that Olshey hasn't put complementary pieces around Dame that maximize his efficacy as a floor general. Players that don't take the open shots he gets them, don't make the open shots he gets them or fumble away passes down low that would be gimmes, don't exactly maximize the perception of Dame's game and that's all your anecdotal comments about being a "floor general" are. I'm not saying that Dame is a better facilitator than CP3 I'm just saying that characterizing facilitating offense for others as a weakness is inaccurate. Also pace of play would again be your perceived idea of what makes someone a good floor general.

 

[handiman]

Might that be because he has been playing with CJ who is completely redundant and is a net negative defender when Dame is pretty much a neutral defender. What I mean to say is that Olshey hasn't put complementary pieces around Dame that maximize his efficacy as a floor general. Players that don't take the open shots he gets them, don't make the open shots he gets them or fumble away passes down low that would be gimmes, don't exactly maximize the perception of Dame's game and that's all your anecdotal comments about being a "floor general" are. I'm not saying that Dame is a better facilitator than CP3 I'm just saying that characterizing facilitating offense for others as a weakness is inaccurate. Also pace of play would again be your perceived idea of what makes someone a good floor general.

I disagree with nearly every statement there.