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Bundy claims the gov't stole their range...actually, the ranchers stole the land from the Paiute people
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You should send that idea to Kingspeed. I'm thinking a new cop show called Sleeper! The cop's catchphrase could be, "Nap time, mother fucker!"
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nah...I want kingspeed to do a regular skit on Portlandia about being a Blazer fan..hopefully with some content about arguing on a Blazer forum...it just fits
 
I looked it up...and the Paiute wars started in 1840
Oregon became a state in 1859
They were settlers, not soldiers
 
riverman said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paiute
I thought this thread needed to represent them too
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I'm pretty sure all the land that was theirs is now the government's. Reservations.

From your link, even.

The government first established the Malheur Reservation for the Northern Paiute in eastern Oregon. The federal government's intention was to concentrate the Northern Paiute there, but its strategy did not work. Because of the distance of the reservation from the traditional areas of most of the bands, and because of its poor environmental conditions, many Northern Paiute refused to go there. Those that did, soon left. They clung to their traditional lifestyle as long as possible; when environmental degradation made that impossible, they sought jobs on white farms, ranches or in cities. They established small Indian colonies, where they were joined by many Shoshone and, in the Reno area, Washoe people.

Later, the government created larger reservations at Pyramid Lake and Duck Valley,Nevada. By that time the pattern of small de facto reservations near cities or farm districts, often with mixed Northern Paiute and Shoshone populations, had been established. Starting in the early 20th century, the federal government began granting land to these colonies. Under the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934, several individual colonies gained federal recognition as independent tribes.
 
Denny Crane said:
I'm pretty sure all the land that was theirs is now the government's. Reservations.

From your link, even.

The government first established the Malheur Reservation for the Northern Paiute in eastern Oregon. The federal government's intention was to concentrate the Northern Paiute there, but its strategy did not work. Because of the distance of the reservation from the traditional areas of most of the bands, and because of its poor environmental conditions, many Northern Paiute refused to go there. Those that did, soon left. They clung to their traditional lifestyle as long as possible; when environmental degradation made that impossible, they sought jobs on white farms, ranches or in cities. They established small Indian colonies, where they were joined by many Shoshone and, in the Reno area, Washoe people.

Later, the government created larger reservations at Pyramid Lake and Duck Valley,Nevada. By that time the pattern of small de facto reservations near cities or farm districts, often with mixed Northern Paiute and Shoshone populations, had been established. Starting in the early 20th century, the federal government began granting land to these colonies. Under the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934, several individual colonies gained federal recognition as independent tribes.
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1934 is way down the road from 1840 when settlers made land grabs in the area though. The Sioux filed their first legal protest in DC 30 years after the Paiute wars...reservations came after statehood..check out the history of Deadwood in the Dakota territories before it was annexed..wild west, miners, ranchers, etc.
Many of them weren't even US citizens. Marshal Law was the law in the territories long before the US started placing troops throughout the west
 
riverman said:
1934 is way down the road from 1840 when settlers made land grabs in the area though. The Sioux filed their first legal protest in DC 30 years after the Paiute wars...reservations came after statehood..check out the history of Deadwood in the Dakota territories before it was annexed..wild west, miners, ranchers, etc.
Many of them weren't even US citizens. Marshal Law was the law in the territories long before the US started placing troops throughout the west
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Why does it matter when the government took their land?
 
Denny Crane said:
Don't you have ass to sniff or something?
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Did you ever know that you're Denny's hero
And everything he would like to be
He can fly higher than an bird at the beach that stops to eat a fish
For you are the wind beneath his wings
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Did you ever know that you're Denny's hero
And everything he would like to be
He can fly higher than an bird at the beach that stops to eat a fish
For you are the wind beneath his wings
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Now you're babbling.
 
riverman said:
I had to laugh at the comments below the article...my favorite...Y'all Qaeda! Second fav...why do they wear camo...don't they know we can see them?
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You realize his site/source is the National Enquirer.
 
Denny Crane said:
Why does it matter when the government took their land?
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Because initially, the gov't didn't. Doesn't make it right in 1934 but settlers first took their lands and chased them off areas they wanted. As I said, many were Europeans without citizenship...the army didn't come in until much later...they were more or less like pirates....sorry barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
You realize his site/source is the National Enquirer.
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It was hilarious! That Anderson guy is the guy who aired all the whack job videos..and he did tell people to kill cops which you claimed no one had done
 
riverman said:
Because initially, the gov't didn't. Doesn't make it right in 1934 but settlers first took their lands and chased them off areas they wanted. As I said, many were Europeans without citizenship...the army didn't come in until much later...they were more or less like pirates....sorry barfo
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The red is government land, not Paiute land. It used to ALL be Paiute land.

The government took their land.

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riverman said:
It was hilarious! That Anderson guy is the guy who aired all the whack job videos..and he did tell people to kill cops which you claimed no one had done
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After the police/FBI killed one of their guys, everything changed.
 
That guy is a poster boy for violent mental illness...which we keep saying needs to be addressed given the senseless killings that have escalated over recent years..I think in his case, the feds are being more than patient.
 
Denny Crane said:
After the police/FBI killed one of their guys, everything changed.
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He was ranting all along...and the United States government most certainly annexed Native American lands everywhere, but they showed up in Burns decades after the pirates took that particular piece of land they're occupying now
 
Denny Crane said:
The red is government land, not Paiute land. It used to ALL be Paiute land.

The government took their land.

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You just make things up.

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riverman said:
That guy is a poster boy for violent mental illness...which we keep saying needs to be addressed given the senseless killings that have escalated over recent years..I think in his case, the feds are being more than patient.
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One bad apple.
 
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