Milwaukee Bucks picks watch

[Natebishop3]

I don't know if there is anything to make it worth it. Maybe not even Giannis if he doesn't want to be here. We know he has daydreamed in the past about going to a large Market team. That's not us.

Getting Dame back maybe.

It could be by the time we get to that draft and see who we get with that pick, we could very well regret not trading it.

Yeah, I think the Bucks picks are just worth more than some of the picks that OKC/SAS/Houston have. I don't really want the Rockets picks. They have a good young core.

 

[RR7]

I wonder, instead of giving them back to Milwaukee if we look to move them this offseason in a completely separate trade. Now maybe that team loops back around to try for Giannis, but rather than a 3 teamer, we just go off on our own. Everyone else can also see the value those picks and swaps might hold.

Especially looking at teams who expect to be good, a swap in '28 and '30 could be big for them. Like OKC, Houston, etc.

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

I believe that the Blazers will want a prospect they believe in, someone like J. Smith or A. Thompson was the example I gave, but I am sure others might be there.

I wouldn't give up a pick for Smith...
He's the definition of a role player. You can find equivalent players in FA.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Yeah, I think the Bucks picks are just worth more than some of the picks that OKC/SAS/Houston have. I don't really want the Rockets picks. They have a good young core.

Rockets own unprotected Phoenix picks. You'd want those 3rd team picks not the OKC SAS HOU own picks. All of them have great unprotected ones from other team like the Suns, Clippers, and Hawks.

Although maybe SAS own pick would be worth a flyer with Wemby injury risk.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I wonder, instead of giving them back to Milwaukee if we look to move them this offseason in a completely separate trade. Now maybe that team loops back around to try for Giannis, but rather than a 3 teamer, we just go off on our own. Everyone else can also see the value those picks and swaps might hold.

Especially looking at teams who expect to be good, a swap in '28 and '30 could be big for them. Like OKC, Houston, etc.

The picks are worth the most to Milwaukee as then they can tank and get the most value from the pick at the top of the lottery. If a different team owns the pick Milwaukee won't tank and the pick is unlikely to be as good.

 

[LoveMyBlazers]

swap rights in 2028, unprotected in 2029, swap rights in 2030. Could have massive value in the future.

I don't believe we can trade the 2029 Bucks pick.

In the Avdija trade with the Wizards, we owe the 2nd best from our own pick, Boston's pick, and the Buck's pick. So at this point we can't trade any of those 3. Of course, we could try to re-negotiate the pick with the Wizards. However, that would have to be done first and there's no guaranttee that the Blazers/Wizards would come to a mutual agreeent.

 

[blazerkor]

I don't believe we can trade the 2029 Bucks pick.

In the Avdija trade with the Wizards, we owe the 2nd best from our own pick, Boston's pick, and the Buck's pick. So at this point we can't trade any of those 3. Of course, we could try to re-negotiate the pick with the Wizards. However, that would have to be done first and there's no guaranttee that the Blazers/Wizards would come to a mutual agreeent.

Yeah I think we'd just trade the most favorable or least favorable of the three, we wouldn't try to renegotiate with the Wizards.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't believe we can trade the 2029 Bucks pick.

In the Avdija trade with the Wizards, we owe the 2nd best from our own pick, Boston's pick, and the Buck's pick. So at this point we can't trade any of those 3. Of course, we could try to re-negotiate the pick with the Wizards. However, that would have to be done first and there's no guaranttee that the Blazers/Wizards would come to a mutual agreeent.

It could all be about how the agreement was written. If we send out that pick and get another one back, it might not violate the agreement. If it was literally written that the Wizards get the second best of our picks (no specification) then it doesn't matter if it's 2 or 3 picks. I can't imagine Joe would have boxed himself in like that.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I don't believe we can trade the 2029 Bucks pick.

In the Avdija trade with the Wizards, we owe the 2nd best from our own pick, Boston's pick, and the Buck's pick. So at this point we can't trade any of those 3. Of course, we could try to re-negotiate the pick with the Wizards. However, that would have to be done first and there's no guaranttee that the Blazers/Wizards would come to a mutual agreeent.

Incorrect - we can trade either the best or worst 2029 pick.

Now we can't trade exactly the Bucks pick only since Washington may own it.

But if we give the Bucks the best of theirs, ours, Boston I'm sure they will prefer that over only their 2029 pick.

 

[Foxx]

The bucks swaps/picks are some of the hottest draft commodities available imo.

You guys are so quick to just hand em away for zero productive reason.

One can go in a Sabonis trade. If you have other ideas on the table worth considering bring those.

the picks are gold if you can see it

 

[Everything Beagle]

imho they're only worth trading after we're sure they're mediocre; multiple chances for high lotto picks is too valuable to pass up.

 

[Phatguysrule]

imho they're only worth trading after we're sure they're mediocre; multiple chances for high lotto picks is too valuable to pass up.

Yeah, unless you're opening a several year championship window by trading them, I agree.

And I just don't see that happening...

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The bucks swaps/picks are some of the hottest draft commodities available imo.

You guys are so quick to just hand em away for zero productive reason.

One can go in a Sabonis trade. If you have other ideas on the table worth considering bring those.

the picks are gold if you can see it

Who is proposing to hand the picks away?

I've said I'd do it for Giannis - he was 3rd in MVP last year and has led a small market to a title. That's certainly not "zero productive" reason.

Very few players I'd trade the pick for. Flagg would be another. But there's not many players.

 

[Natebishop3]

The bucks swaps/picks are some of the hottest draft commodities available imo.

You guys are so quick to just hand em away for zero productive reason.

One can go in a Sabonis trade. If you have other ideas on the table worth considering bring those.

the picks are gold if you can see it

Who wants to hand them away for no reason?

The reason is that Milwaukee is probably blowing it up. Right now. That's the reason. We could get in on a trade and come away with good value on those picks because Milwaukee wants them back. But it has to be worth it.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

imho they're only worth trading after we're sure they're mediocre; multiple chances for high lotto picks is too valuable to pass up.

When they're slotted as mediocre picks they aren't going to have much value.

Its kind of like saying I'm only willing to sell my stock once the company goes bankrupt. Good luck finding a buyer at that point.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Who wants to hand them away for no reason?

The reason is that Milwaukee is probably blowing it up. Right now. That's the reason. We could get in on a trade and come away with good value on those picks because Milwaukee wants them back. But it has to be worth it.

Yeah - if we could flip the Bucks picks for the Suns picks and get an extra pick in the deal I'd consider it. Those Suns picks look like goldmines as well.

The Nets kind of took less draft capital in return to get their own picks back and the Rockets got better picks in the process.

If we give up the Bucks picks for other picks it should be some sort of similar deal where yes we give the Bucks their picks back but we gain even more valuable picks in the process.

Certainly not giving away picks for no reason.

 

[Strenuus]

Who wants to hand them away for no reason?

The reason is that Milwaukee is probably blowing it up. Right now. That's the reason. We could get in on a trade and come away with good value on those picks because Milwaukee wants them back. But it has to be worth it.

But what value relative to our team is good coming from Milwaukee? I'm not the biggest fan of giannis in a team oriented aspect even if he did win a championship.

Id rather keep the picks and try for longer sustained success than mortgage the future for a kwhai championship.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

But what value relative to our team is good coming from Milwaukee? I'm not the biggest fan of giannis in a team oriented aspect even if he did win a championship.

Id rather keep the picks and try for longer sustained success than mortgage the future for a kwhai championship.

If its a 3 way the value would come to Portland from the 3rd team - not Milwaukee.

 

[Everything Beagle]

When they're slotted as mediocre picks they aren't going to have much value.

Its kind of like saying I'm only willing to sell my stock once the company goes bankrupt. Good luck finding a buyer at that point.

Honestly, I think we're not trading any of the picks, and are going to use them to maintain youth during the team's playoff ascension. It's a very rare opportunity to get starter-quality reinforcements added to your roster after you start making the playoffs. It may be more useful in the future to trade an under-performing started and draft a replacement. The point is flexibility, and that goes away when we trade the picks.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Who wants to hand them away for no reason?

The reason is that Milwaukee is probably blowing it up. Right now. That's the reason. We could get in on a trade and come away with good value on those picks because Milwaukee wants them back. But it has to be worth it.

Don't lift a hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.

I don't want to do *anything* to help Milwaukee rebuild faster. That's literally against our best interests.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Don't lift a hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.

I don't want to do *anything* to help Milwaukee rebuild faster. That's literally against our best interests.

Unless, of course, we trade their unprotected pick to someone else. Which is possible. In which case, I would help them as much as possible so we don't regret it.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Unless, of course, we trade their unprotected pick to someone else. Which is possible. In which case, I would help them as much as possible so we don't regret it.

Short of landing Giannis, I wouldn't trade that pick. It might be our last chance to take the next leap when the time comes.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Unless, of course, we trade their unprotected pick to someone else. Which is possible. In which case, I would help them as much as possible so we don't regret it.

In that case, just keep the picks. All we have to do is nothing.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Short of landing Giannis, I wouldn't trade that pick. It might be our last chance to take the next leap when the time comes.

I think there are a few more exceptions than just Giannis, but I essentially agree with you.

 

[RR7]

Don't lift a hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.

I don't want to do *anything* to help Milwaukee rebuild faster. That's literally against our best interests.

If we've traded away the picks, why would we care how fast Milwaukee rebuilds?

 

[wizenheimer]

it's 3 full years till that partially encumbered 2028 swap; 4 years till the 2029 pick; 5 years till the 2nd swap

is that a long time in the tenure of an NBA GM? If it's true that the winning streak the Blazers had altered the thinking of the front office, I'd imagine that same front office would tend to look at those Milwaukee assets more as trade leverage than as banked assets to be used when due. Cronin has already shown a willingness to trade picks in that period with the Avdija trade

I sure hope he sets a high price if he leverages those picks and swaps....and possibly this year's pick. But I do think the odds have increased the Blazers move them for what they view as an upgrade

 

[THE HCP]

Whatever you do, don't trust a fart.

When it smells like a fart, it’s usually @SlyPokerDog whispering in your ear, he’s trustworthy.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

When it smells like a fart, it’s usually @SlyPokerDog whispering in your ear, he’s trustworthy.

 

[Everything Beagle]

If we've traded away the picks, why would we care how fast Milwaukee rebuilds?

Because fuck the Bucks that's why.

 

[Natebishop3]

That 2029 Celtics pick isn’t looking too bad right about now.