Minnesota: full of shit (confirmed)

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Zybot said:
I read it and enjoyed it. It sounds pretty spot on. Would like to know Jaynes' take on it.
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Oh, that's easy, Zybot. Jaynes says that after Paul Allen sells the team Nic will go to Minny for Dwight Howard, LeBron James and Kevin Durant and with the albatross Allen off the Blazers' backs they will win 10 championships.
 
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I'll stick to my guns, here:

Batum for Williams + 1st rounder + Adelman

else we sign Batum for $10 Mil/year. they will not offer a contract.
 
to leave batum swinging in the wind like this is not a good look for the timberpups, good luck having another player sign an offer sheet ever
 
Did we ever figure out the difference between waiving and buying out for cap holds?
 
I think so.
Sometimes players and teams decide to divorce each other. They do this by mutually agreeing that:

The team will waive the player
If the player clears waivers, the player's guaranteed salary will be reduced or eliminated (see question number 62)
In contracts signed or extended under the previous CBA, the payment schedule for the remaining salary may be shortened or lengthened (see question number 63)
Optionally the team's set-off rights (see question number 64) may be waived
After the player clears waivers, he and his former team are free to go their separate ways.
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Zybot said:
A Minnesota beat writer's view on the stalemate: http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/162306996.html

So remind me again, how is it that Minny has any leverage? Actions seem to speak louder than words on this one.
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Another interesting issue, Minnesota wants to use Webster or Miller as trade assets for Iggy. If they release then to give Batum an offer sheet they won't be able to offer such a trade. That is a potentially big cost for a restricted free agent that will almost certainly be matched.
 
Draco said:
Another interesting issue, Minnesota wants to use Webster or Miller as trade assets for Iggy. If they release then to give Batum an offer sheet they won't be able to offer such a trade. That is a potentially big cost for a restricted free agent that will almost certainly be matched.
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this

they are assets, and i really cant wait till kahn waives them and gets matched
 
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they amnestied Darko. He had 2/10.9M left, of which about 1.755M in 2013-14 was guaranteed.
 
Blazinaway said:
Brian, why does the NBA site show Minny making a "qualifying offer" to Nic? Makes no sense

http://www.nba.com/news/transactions/2012_13/
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I was just looking at that. I don't know. As I said I don't get the NBA Transaction Feed, so I have to rely on the website (which can't even spell Kyle Lowry's name wrong) to tell me things like "Qualifying offer extended". The NBC site says "offer sheet signed". But I think they're just going off of tweets.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Extended, not submitted
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I thought the team he was on (POR) made a "qualifying offer" and the team trying to sign him (Minny) "extended an offer sheet". I know its semantics but wording in this stuff is important - a typo by the NBA site?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Not yet but that's still not a reason to waste the amnesty.
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I thought the amnesty only applied to contracts under the last CBA? So I don't think you can't use that. You have plenty of other material/facts to work with though :)
 
but it's not a "qualifying offer"
The qualifying offer is a standing offer for a one-year guaranteed contract, which becomes a regular contact if the player decides to sign it. This ensures that the team does not gain the right of first refusal without offering a contract themselves. The amount of the qualifying offer for players on rookie "scale" contracts is based on the player's draft position1. The qualifying offer for all other players must be for 125% of the player's previous salary, or the player's minimum salary (see question number 16) plus $200,000, whichever is greater1. A player can elect to accept his qualifying offer and play the following season under its terms. This is sometimes done in order to become an unrestricted free agent the following summer (see question number 45).

A qualifying offer automatically expires on October 1, unless it is extended by the team (which is rarely done). A qualifying offer cannot be extended past March 1. If the deadline passes and the qualifying offer is neither withdrawn nor accepted, the player continues to be a restricted free agent. The team and player are free to negotiate a new contract after the qualifying offer expires -- the deadline only affects the player's ability to accept his qualifying offer.
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When a restricted free agent wants to sign with another team, the player and team sign an offer sheet, the principal terms of which the original team is given three days to match. The offer sheet must be for at least two seasons (not including option years). If the player's prior team also submitted a maximum qualifying offer, then the offer sheet must be for at least three seasons (not including option years). If the player's original team exercises its right of first refusal within three days, the player is then under contract to his original team, at the principal terms of the offer sheet. If the player's original team does not exercise its right of first refusal within three days (or provides written notice that it is declining its right of first refusal), the offer sheet becomes an official contract with the new team.
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