MM's all important first pre season game player analysis

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because if you are going to project based on small sample sizes, you better use things that count...like FanFest MVP-dom and games where you get 10 fouls against D-Leaguers.

pulling your chain, Eric. Well, kind of.
 
One thing's for damn sure - the referees were in midseason form as far as getting the Clippers to the FT line. Chris Paul even got shots with his patented 'kick out the legs on a jump shot to make it look like Lillard fouled him' move. God I hate the NBA (and love it at the same time).
 
Reading MM's original post, I saw lots of: Lillard looked ... Matthews was ... Batum looked ... Robinson was ... Claver made ... comments. The title was "first preseason game analysis". I didn't interpret the OP to imply MM thought that this is the way it was, and therefore forever it shall be.

For me, I took the original 'analysis' as a single data point, which raised some valuable points to revisit in future games until certain trends, tendencies, abilities and deficiencies can be confirmed or dismissed. I appreciated the analysis, just as I appreciated the opinions contrary to MM's.

I think we are a little stir crazy. I'd prefer to get past the practice games and into the actual season before we tear each other to shreds. And then, not.

:cheers:
 
BBert said:
Reading MM's original post, I saw lots of: Lillard looked ... Matthews was ... Batum looked ... Robinson was ... Claver made ... comments. The title was "first preseason game analysis". I didn't interpret the OP to imply MM thought that this is the way it was, and therefore forever it shall be.

For me, I took the original 'analysis' as a single data point, which raised some valuable points to revisit in future games until certain trends, tendencies, abilities and deficiencies can be confirmed or dismissed. I appreciated the analysis, just as I appreciated the opinions contrary to MM's.

I think we are a little stir crazy. I'd prefer to get past the practice games and into the actual season before we tear each other to shreds. And then, not.

:cheers:
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I don't know who this BBert guy is but he makes a lot of sense.
 
KingSpeed said:
One game. You can't judge Robinson on one game. Heck, he was just Fan Fest MVP the other night. He also played well in summer league.
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And we said as much. However, for this one game, he was meh
 
Mediocre Man said:
And we said as much. However, for this one game, he was meh
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I don't think we really need much more than one game for most of the guys.

We pretty much know the strengths and weaknesses for most of the players. At that point it's not really hard to project how they will play this season.
 
RoyToy said:
I don't think we really need much more than one game for most of the guys.

We pretty much know the strengths and weaknesses for most of the players. At that point it's not really hard to project how they will play this season.
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What annoys me is fans that say so and so played bad because they were 2-12 or he played great because he got a double double. I don't even look at that. Not better, not worse, just couldn't care less about stats. I see work, I see position on offense, I see feet position on shots, screens and defense, I see rebound position. That is how I determine who played well and who didn't. it's why I like Claver so much. He almost always does the right thing.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I see work, I see position on offense, I see feet position on shots, screens and defense, I see rebound position. That is how I determine who played well and who didn't. it's why I like Claver so much. He almost always does the right thing.
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That's why I wanted to take the time and mention Freeland. Both him and Claver seemed to have put in some hard work during the off season. Are there more talented players on the team? Sure, not going to argue it but we need role players who are going to go out and do the task assigned to them. Claver and Freeland did that last night. Trob and Meyers not so much.
 
Mediocre Man said:
What annoys me is fans that say so and so played bad because they were 2-12 or he played great because he got a double double. I don't even look at that. Not better, not worse, just couldn't care less about stats. I see work, I see position on offense, I see feet position on shots, screens and defense, I see rebound position. That is how I determine who played well and who didn't. it's why I like Claver so much. He almost always does the right thing.
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I'm a huge fan of claver too. He has the iq, work ethic and team orientation to be really good. If he could just have a deadly mid range game.
 
Mediocre Man said:
But those arguing against are ignorant losers.
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That's a very ignorant thing to say.

It's not that we don't expect people to have their opinions and make their comments, but just like you, many of us have our opinions. Holding players in preseason game numero uno, with guys trying new things, playing out of role just seems a bit odd. I at least read your opinion and had respect. Why respond with douche-y posts?
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
That's a very ignorant thing to say.

It's not that we don't expect people to have their opinions and make their comments, but just like you, many of us have our opinions. Holding players in preseason game numero uno, with guys trying new things, playing out of role just seems a bit odd. I at least read your opinion and had respect. Why respond with douche-y posts?
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He was being sarcastic. It was a hint to all of the "attack the post, not the poster" drama going on in the last week.
 
Eastoff said:
He was being sarcastic. It was a hint to all of the "attack the post, not the poster" drama going on in the last week.
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You mean whining about being attacked and not stopping; while bleeding over to other threads?
 
Eastoff said:
He was being sarcastic. It was a hint to all of the "attack the post, not the poster" drama going on in the last week.
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I dunno if I believe that. Have you ever read his posts? I usually agree and get it, but don't attack people for having an opinion on your post when, one, you make a post, and two, it was a lame post.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That's why I wanted to take the time and mention Freeland. Both him and Claver seemed to have put in some hard work during the off season. Are there more talented players on the team? Sure, not going to argue it but we need role players who are going to go out and do the task assigned to them. Claver and Freeland did that last night. Trob and Meyers not so much.
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So far I was only to watch the replay of the 1st qtr and I am glad you brought up Joel. Maybe he sucked after the first quarter, but the first minute he was in he scored, grabbed two rebounds and set a hard pick. Yes he was called for the offensive foul, but it was still a nice hard pick. (The foul was debatable, it was called because...... it was Joel IMO)

Anyways I focused on him after that, and he at least attempts to set a lot of screens.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not sarcasm.
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Exactly. Very intentional and I doubt he stops. I have a feeling we will read his bitching for months.

I'm curious how many private complaints to the mods are? I expect them to be even more than what's public
 
Btw I forgot to mention I really like what I saw from Robin Lopez. I think he's going to fit in nicely.
 
Wow. You guys are incredible. It was total sarcasm. As for reading my bitching, that will only happen when you guys continue to drag shit out that isn't even as issue, or attack.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Thanks! I think you're pretty special too.

And I sincerely mean that. Good health and long life to you my friend!
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On a serious note. I love MM and his takes. I actually respect most of what he says.

I love what he provides to this community with over/under and insight.

So my pissy remarks are only because I'm getting tired of the same shit. The last I will say about it. I hope it's the last complaint I read publicly by MM too.
 
magnifier661 said:
On a serious note. I love MM and his takes. I actually respect most of what he says.

I love what he provides to this community with over/under and insight.

So my pissy remarks are only because I'm getting tired of the same shit. The last I will say about it. I hope it's the last complaint I read publicly by MM too.
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it's quite simple. No reason to complain, no complaints.
 
Mediocre Man said:
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say it ain't so, Mags......No judgement, but say it ain't so.
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OT for a second. That video really pushed the edges of what was acceptable back in 92. Now it doesn't hold a candle to the softcore porn that has become pop music videos.
 
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