Moss about to be traded to Vikings

[Minstrel]

Moss wasn't labeled as a problem player prior to being traded to the Pats? Moss had a worse rep than Jackson currently does.

Moss had motivation concerns, but nothing like a league suspension.

 

[MickZagger]

Moss had motivation concerns, but nothing like a league suspension.

Maybe not league suspension, but he's definitely has some controversial times in his career.

http://blastmagazine.com/2008/01/16/randy-moss-is-in-trouble/

There was also the time that he ran over a cop.

I'm a big Moss fan, but its not true that his tenure in the league hasn't had its controversal moments.

 

[Minstrel]

Maybe not league suspension, but he's definitely has some controversial times in his career.

http://blastmagazine.com/2008/01/16/randy-moss-is-in-trouble/

There was also the time that he ran over a cop.

I'm a big Moss fan, but its not true that his tenure in the league hasn't had its controversal moments.

Yeah, but a misdemeanor 5 years prior isn't exactly a major football issue.

It's not really "problem player" as determined by fans/media. I've read quotes from Belichick and Pioli in the past (when Pioli was with the Patriots) where they said that they talk to and/or evaluate the attitude of prospective players they're interested in and decide whether they have the right attitude to fit into their system and chemistry. If they decide the player does, that's all that matter...not past issues or reputation. And if they decide he doesn't, again that's all that matters. So what's important is whom Belichick, at this point, feels is a "problem."

This obviously doesn't provide any predictive power for fans, but that's where someone with good connections can provide some insight. Schefter obviously doesn't always get it right (as 44Thrilla noted) but he is a well-connected and well-regarded NFL reporter, so if he says that it's not going to happen...that doesn't mean it's in stone (since he can be wrong) but it does potentially provide a clue that Belichick doesn't view Jackson as a fit, attitude-wise. Whereas, Belichick obviously thought Moss was when he traded for him.

 

[ehizzy3]

glad moss isn't on the patriots. i can root for him again

 

[44Thrilla]

Yeah, but a misdemeanor 5 years prior isn't exactly a major football issue.

It's not really "problem player" as determined by fans/media. I've read quotes from Belichick and Pioli in the past (when Pioli was with the Patriots) where they said that they talk to and/or evaluate the attitude of prospective players they're interested in and decide whether they have the right attitude to fit into their system and chemistry. If they decide the player does, that's all that matter...not past issues or reputation. And if they decide he doesn't, again that's all that matters. So what's important is whom Belichick, at this point, feels is a "problem."

This obviously doesn't provide any predictive power for fans, but that's where someone with good connections can provide some insight. Schefter obviously doesn't always get it right (as 44Thrilla noted) but he is a well-connected and well-regarded NFL reporter, so if he says that it's not going to happen...that doesn't mean it's in stone (since he can be wrong) but it does potentially provide a clue that Belichick doesn't view Jackson as a fit, attitude-wise. Whereas, Belichick obviously thought Moss was when he traded for him.

But why would BB even inquire about Jackson if he didn't think he was a fit? That's what I don't get about Schefter's logic. Does he think the Patriots are unaware of his history?

 

[44Thrilla]

Oh, forget it...I see that Schefter said that BEFORE the reports that NE contacted SD. Schefter was wrong again. He won't be a Patriot, but its not because they don't want him. It's because SD doesn't want Mankins, and there's no way BB is giving up a 1 and a 2.

 

[ehizzy3]

^ fuck the patriots brah

 

[Natebishop3]

So how much better does this make the Vikes?

 

[Sex Panther]

So how much better does this make the Vikes?

a lot.

 

[Natebishop3]

Maybe I should change my prediction for Sunday then....

 

[MickZagger]

So how much better does this make the Vikes?

At the very least it opens it up for the other receivers like Shiancoe and Camarillo.