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riverman said:
the Russians Trump asked on TV to find Hillary's emails
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MarAzul said:
Then you claim the obvious joke was a real hunk of hard evidence of collusion.
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riverman said:
this is a blatant lie....I've claimed no such thing...he's never told a joke obvious or otherwise.
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riverman said:
Trump has always bothered me...since the mid 70s at least.
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>>> Tough shit! He was duly elected.

riverman said:
I'll determine what bothers me and why thank you.
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"I've claimed no such thing"
Ha! It sure looks as if you did.
 
Chris Craig said:
It bothered me when he said it. You don't ask a foreign country to help you win an election joking or not.
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Are you serious?

Y'all wanna know what's in the report so much you don't care about the actual law that limits who gets to see it but wanting to see Hillary's emails is off limits. Especially when you consider nobody really cared about her emails except to use against her as ammo.

If he just said wikileaks would you have been happier?
 
MarAzul said:
Wow!

Well I sure wouldn't bite the hook that hard.
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cause you believe anything trump says. You're part of the unhinged base that swallows everything he says hook line and sinker. In other words, you're the type of sucker he relies on.
 
As to the comments several times by many members in this forum, He is not the King or the Monarch!

Alexander Hamilton wrote an interesting peace on this subject denoting the similarities and differences.
Federalist Paper no. 69

The following stands out in the paper.

"The President of the United States would be an officer elected by the people for FOUR years; the king of Great Britain is a perpetual and HEREDITARY prince."

But the entire paper is worth reading.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed69.asp
 
Because Mueller didn't indict Trump and some of the closest people around him in no way means the report will vindicate him or them. Mueller is very meticulous and circumspect. He has a good reason for not openly indicting Trump even if he has the evidence to do so. He could be leaving that to congress to decide what to do with that information, for other prosecutorial investigations (New York, D.C) to indict him later once he isn't president.

Mueller is smart, he knows Trump is going to try to exert executive privelage, that he will simply pardon his family. Russia waged an electronic campaign against us to sway our election. This has been proven. Hillary Clinton and other DNC emails were hacked, stolen, and made public. This is known.

Many members of Trumps family/administration for privy to this. This is known. Dr Jr admitted he went to the meeting for the documents, but claimed his dad knew nothing of it. Dozens of Trump's administrstion/family including himself have ties to Russia. That members of his administration (Flynn, Gates, Stone, Papadopoulos, Cohen, Jr, etc) had contact with Russia before and leading up to the 2016 election.


Muellers report will detail these many contacts. With testimony and other evidence compiled, the report will conclude that when all of this is put together, it creates a damning picture of Trump and his administration, and shows that he is far from innocent, and knew about Russia's war against our election, and in fact sanctioned it, by going after Russian owned dirt against Clinton, and not standing against it. That him and his administration openly worked with a foreign country to win the election.
Some fat guy in a bed indeed...that guy is Trump.

Not to mention all the obstruction of Justice.
 
The prolific Mr. Hamilton wrote several more.
Federalist No 65

It is on the powers of the Senate with a good deal on impeachment. It lends a little insight into the intend behind the reasoning of why we do not put the President on trial, and the delicacy of impeachment as specified in the Constitution.

"The delicacy and magnitude of a trust which so deeply concerns the political reputation and existence of every man engaged in the administration of public affairs, speak for themselves. The difficulty of placing it rightly, in a government resting entirely on the basis of periodical elections, will as readily be perceived, when it is considered that the most conspicuous characters in it will, from that circumstance, be too often the leaders or the tools of the most cunning or the most numerous faction, and on this account, can hardly be expected to possess the requisite neutrality towards those whose conduct may be the subject of scrutiny. "

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/johnson/fedimpeachment.htm
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/johnson/fedimpeachment.htm
One might deduce that elections are indeed the preferred course to change out the leader you find objectionable.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Are you serious?

Y'all wanna know what's in the report so much you don't care about the actual law that limits who gets to see it but wanting to see Hillary's emails is off limits. Especially when you consider nobody really cared about her emails except to use against her as ammo.

If he just said wikileaks would you have been happier?
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Let's see her emails. Let's see them please. Make them public. I am all for it. If she broke laws put her in jail. I have never said otherwise. The FBI looked at her emails and found that while her actions weren't illegal, she was fucking stupid for using her own server. She fucked up in Benghazi. Karma got her. It stripped her of her greatest ambition, to be the first woman president. She lost embarrassingly to Trump. Karma will find Trump too, its the nature of it. It bit her in the ass. It will bite him in the ass. That's what Karma does, it's a cold bitch.
 
Hoopguru said:
positive American Pie message
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Ha!
I am thinking that these sorry pathetic losers will protest so much and push their astonishing Trump hate simply too far.
Turning Trump into the Next American Pie icon for more than enough people, to guaranty his clean sweep in the next election.
 
Whatever it says, it will be interpreted in two different ways. Trump supporters will ignore every part of it that is against Trump that they can. They will only focus on some small aspect in a grasp to vindicate him. Meanwhile, the rest of us will see it as damning, and showing his guilt.
 
Chris Craig said:
Because Mueller didn't indict Trump and some of the closest people around him
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That might not be true. There are rumors that there are secret indictments that are being held until after Trump gets out of office. A secret indictment stops that statute of limitations.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
That might not be true. There are rumors that there are secret indictments that are being held until after Trump gets out of office. A secret indictment stops that statute of limitations.
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I could see that happening. I spoke about waiting till he was out of office to handcuff him. Probably why he is rerunning. Trying to hold tight to executive privelage.

This is yet another reason to not openly indict Trump or hid closest people. To get Trump when he is no longer president, so he can't claim executive privelage or pardon family. Makes sense.
 
Trump has things to hide and he is waiting to see how good Mueller is.
 
30 minutes
 
MarAzul said:
This is an interesting article about what the founders intended with impeachment.

"When the Founders wanted to ensure accountability, they mostly relied on elections and the voters to hold government officials responsible for their actions,” said Whittington. “But what might fall into the category of ‘other high Crimes and Misdemeanors’ was still quite unclear.”"

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-the-founders-thought-about-impeachment-and-the-president
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They were thinking of fellatio, obviously.

barfo
 
Marazul used the constitution like some use the bible.

"God wants me to have a private airplane."

"The founders say I should have my own nuke."
 
Chris Craig said:
I could see that happening. I spoke about waiting till he was out of office to handcuff him. Probably why he is rerunning. Trying to hold tight to executive privelage.

This is yet another reason to not openly indict Trump or hid closest people. To get Trump when he is no longer president, so he can't claim executive privelage or pardon family. Makes sense.
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Holy hell!
How did you get so sick?
 
It's funny you guys are still trying to use Hillary as an excuse. She openly testified before a republican led congressional committee, was investigated by the FBI. Nothing was found.

Trump has hid behind Lawyers for two years.


You tell me who is guilty
 
MarAzul said:
Well, I am not the one hoping for bad shit to happen to someone.
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I'm not hoping for anything. I'm saying karma is a bitch. What goes around comes around. If he is guilty he should go down for it. It's not a matter of me hoping. It's a matter of law.
 
Chris Craig said:
I'm saying karma is a bitch.
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>>> Ah Karma! Yes well that is conceptually the Buddhist and Hindu equivalent of Christians leaving judgement to God.
I am cool with this.

Chris Craig said:
What goes around comes around
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>>>I have no idea what you have circulating there.

Chris Craig said:
If he is guilty he should go down for it
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>>>This does seem like hope, since we have no indication that Mueller found anything he is guilty of doing.

Chris Craig said:
It's not a matter of me hoping
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>>> Ok, perhaps it is anticipating the rewarding events to come.

Chris Craig said:
It's a matter of law.
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>>>Which law involves, Karma? Or Hope? Circular thinking?
 
I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton. I don't like either one which is my freedom as an American.

Regardless of what side you are on or what you believe, as Americans we should all be happy that Mueller didn't find evidence that the Russians colluded. It would be a sad day in America if after two years they uncovered that our republic had been sold out.
We can hate on Trump or any politician for what ever reason, thats our right, but we should never hope something like Mueller was investigating ever happens.
I didn't like all about Obama or Bush, but would never wish for them to be caught up in undermining our country.
Even if Bernie or any socialist beats Trump they will be my President and I would never wish for them to fail. I have a son and a grandson serving in the Army proudly protecting our freedom and rights.

GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!!!
 
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MarAzul said:
>>> Tough shit! He was duly elected.
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Nah, more like Dumb shit...he was duly elected....we knew from the start Trump was not under investigation directly..what his team did was look into Russian assets and back off quickly...Kushner and Trump Jr have admitted this...what Trump is guilty of so far is lying about it and sadly being incompetent when it came to looking into it himself...which is also his job. He should have supported the whole process but like his fans...he'd rather insult than reason
 
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