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Average US car price is $40k.

That looks like the base cheap Tesla. $36k.

US House Reps make $174k/year.

I was still right though!

Edit -dammit I said 90% :sigh:

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And please tell me how owing a Tesla is hypocritical for her? (noting that being a hypocrite is never a problem on the right. See McConnel, Mitch.)
And Kevin McCarthy, Ted Kremlin Cruz, Trump......
 
I don't get it. So, she is for green values and for policies that help people more than corporations. Does that mean she's taken a vow of poverty? No. Or that she can't like, want, or have nice things? No. Or that she can't work hard and buy what she likes? No.
 
And for the record, I like her even more if she tries to scam parking at a While Foods!
 
I don't get it. So, she is for green values and for policies that help people more than corporations. Does that mean she's taken a vow of poverty? No. Or that she can't like, want, or have nice things? No. Or that she can't work hard and buy what she likes? No.
Sounds like that nasty Capitalism stuff. Yuck.
 
What socialism has she advocated for? Let alone any change which would impact owning a Tesla or apartment?
Socialism is socialism? They can put a Democratic spin on it all they want but at the end of the day it's government power over the people that has historically (and modernly) lead to massive corruption, famine and death.
 
It's Obama eating arugula.

Four years of Trump lawlessness and best they can come up with to both sider is illegal parking.
 
Socialism is socialism? They can put a Democratic spin on it all they want but at the end of the day it's government power over the people that has historically (and modernly) lead to massive corruption, famine and death.
Please show me where she advocated for socialism?
 
I don't get it. So, she is for green values and for policies that help people more than corporations. Does that mean she's taken a vow of poverty? No. Or that she can't like, want, or have nice things? No. Or that she can't work hard and buy what she likes? No.

Because it's the same argument that I have with ANY politician. I don't think it should be a career. I don't see how they can represent the people when they eventually lose touch with what it's like to BE one of the people. How many people do you know who make that much money? Term limits should exist and I think once a politician has to consider constantly running for re-election, they stop serving the people and they start serving themselves. If you couldn't afford an expensive car or house BEFORE you became a politician, you damn sure shouldn't be able to afford an expensive car or house BECAUSE you became a politician. People shouldn't become wealthy because they became civil servants.
 
Capitalism isn't about rewarding hard work. If it was, farmworkers would be rich. It's about a stupid, lazy, vulgar person like Trump living soft all his life on money he didn't earn, never being held accountable for anything, while Kevin Durant's mom worked two jobs and frequently went to bed hungry so her children could eat. And millionaires in Congress, overwhelming white men, pontificate about how aiding poor people tales away their incentive to work while voting a giant tax cut for the rich.
 
Capitalism isn't about rewarding hard work.

Absolutely, it is! Conversely, Socialism et al, is about carving out capital from the capital capitalists earn!
 
Socialism is socialism? They can put a Democratic spin on it all they want but at the end of the day it's government power over the people that has historically (and modernly) lead to massive corruption, famine and death.
We already have massive corruption and one in 10 households facing food insecurities under capitalism. Enacting a few socialist policies isn't going to lead to the bread lines everyone scares you on.
 
We already have massive corruption and one in 10 households facing food insecurities under capitalism. Enacting a few socialist policies isn't going to lead to the bread lines everyone scares you on.

Im not sure what we’re pretending this two party failed experiment is, but it’s not capitalism, or socialism. A few more years down this path though and I think it’ll be safe to call it a banana republic.
 
Im not sure what we’re pretending this two party failed experiment is, but it’s not capitalism, or socialism. A few more years down this path though and I think it’ll be safe to call it a banana republic.
We cemented our banana republic status on January 6, 2021. The continued refusal to accept the election results only doubles down on our new status going forward……
 
Because it's the same argument that I have with ANY politician. I don't think it should be a career. I don't see how they can represent the people when they eventually lose touch with what it's like to BE one of the people. How many people do you know who make that much money? Term limits should exist and I think once a politician has to consider constantly running for re-election, they stop serving the people and they start serving themselves. If you couldn't afford an expensive car or house BEFORE you became a politician, you damn sure shouldn't be able to afford an expensive car or house BECAUSE you became a politician. People shouldn't become wealthy because they became civil servants.

I really dislike term limits.

And truly I do not mean this as a Tump take, but as an example: You need career politicians and civil servants, just like you need career lawyers and doctors and auto mechanics. Having a guy like Trump, who knew nothing about how government works, was disastrous. Lethal actually. Like or dislike Biden, at least he knows how to pull the reins of government. That's because he's been in it his whole adult life.
 
I really dislike term limits.

And truly I do not mean this as a Tump take, but as an example: You need career politicians and civil servants, just like you need career lawyers and doctors and auto mechanics. Having a guy like Trump, who knew nothing about how government works, was disastrous. Lethal actually. Like or dislike Biden, at least he knows how to pull the reins of government. That's because he's been in it his whole adult life.
I don't like term limits either. I don't like anyone telling me who I cannot vote for as long as they meet reasonable standards.
 
Because it's the same argument that I have with ANY politician. I don't think it should be a career. I don't see how they can represent the people when they eventually lose touch with what it's like to BE one of the people. How many people do you know who make that much money? Term limits should exist and I think once a politician has to consider constantly running for re-election, they stop serving the people and they start serving themselves. If you couldn't afford an expensive car or house BEFORE you became a politician, you damn sure shouldn't be able to afford an expensive car or house BECAUSE you became a politician. People shouldn't become wealthy because they became civil servants.
If politicians don't get paid well you'll never have enough capable politicians to do anything good.

The smart people will be doctors, lawyers, and investment bankers. The crooked ones will get into politics to make theirs and their friend's personal business more profitable.

This is what we have now, partially because our politicians aren't paid as well as their peers (doctors, lawyers, bankers, executives).

I would suggest we need publicly funded elections, HIGHER pay for politicians, and policies to prevent business influence on politics (limits to lobbying, official publicly funded research and technical departments to make lobbying less necessary, and limit politicians from returning to business for 5 years after their term ends).
 
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