MVP Race- According To The Mouth Breathers....

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HCP said:
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
Look at the numbers of the player who DID win the the Big O's season MVP son.
And as far as critiquing a player on HOW they get there assists? C'Mon you're better than that I assumed. To compare him to Ricky Davis is enough to block your ass. Always thought you had common sense bro.
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WB does go pass happy when he is nearing 10 assists, he will pass up open shots for himself or open driving lanes to try and get the assists. Sure you can say i'm wrong on that he is assist hunting and he is doing it for other reasons but you can't deny the rebounding numbers are inflated. Kanter/Adams box out to get him rebounds, not only do they box out and not attempt to get the rebound if WB is in the vicinity. WB also doesn't even contest the shots of the person he is guarding, he positions himself to immediately leave his man to get the rebound by not putting his arms up to even attempt to make the shot harder, He almost never contests a 3p shot. If the argument that WB deserves the MVP because he is averaging a TD then you can't overlook what he is doing to get his rebounds. The reason I threw Ricky Davis in their is his infamous triple double by missing a layup to get his own rebound and get his triple double.
With how close this MVP race is between 4 candidates you'v got to be nit picky and what WB is doing is not as impressive to me as Kawhi or Harden when factoring in team success as well which is important to me when looking at who will win the MVP.
As for what Bill Russell did to get the MVP that season it was 14.4p 24 rebounds and 5 assists and god knows how many blocks per game. There were 3 players that year who averaged 20 rebounds that year as well.
 
BonesJones said:
No it's not. Being "valuable" towards your teams own mediocrity isn't an accomplishment.
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3 days ago I sat with 4 NBA players that said if Westbrook doesn't win it, something is wrong with the system. Said it's impossible to put up constant numbers like that in this league.....Regardless if it comes in a 2 point loss or a 15 point blowout.
 
I think Westbrook pads his rebounding stats but there is no denying how much of a freak he is on the court, 35 shots attempted or not. Dude is a machine. Numbers are crazy, I give him the MVP over anybody else in the league without question
 
HCP said:
He tried to bitch me a few years back, so as a person I'm no fan. But if you've read on here, I'm a huge supporter. I think I started to really appreciate his greatness when KD went down for the first time and he carried that team. Also love Harden and Kobe.

I think I learned my lesson of hating on players when I was kid and despised Larry Bird watching him dominate every Sunday on CBS! As soon as I was old enough to respect how amazing a player he was, it was Dream Team time and too late. So I have always watched players with a different eye ever since.
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Why? Larry Bird was one of the few players that I just love to watch play. The guy could flat-out cook anybody who guarded him.
 
Westbrook isn't the MVP of the league, he loses games for the Thunder more than he should (think against us when he shot his own team to a fat L in OKC). LeBron is the most deserving of the reward, he is having insane numbers (efficient numbers) all while being one of the NBA's top defenders, which no one ever acknowledges.
 
riverman said:
It's Westbrook to me and not really even close..he's single handedly put his team in the playoffs and had a record setting year doing it....Harden and Lebron have more help and Kawhi as great as he is has allstars all around him...Spurs rest their franchise players way too much to give them the nod.
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The Spurs have the same number of All Stars as the Thunder & Rockets, just one. Despite all that resting of their well past their prime former stars, Kawhi has led them to the 2nd best record in the league compared to the 10th. Not only has he been unbelievably dominant and efficient offensively, but he's the best defensive player in the league drawing the toughest wing cover each night. Defense still matters a great deal in the outcome of games and only one of the three leading candidates really gets after it on that end of the court.

Like so many things the MVP vote is just an opinion, but I heavily favor the player who makes his team better over a hero ball stats monster.

STOMP
 
Russ with 50/16/10 and the god damn dagger in the hearts of the nuggets on the road! Fucking warrior! Set new record for triple dubs in a season, passed Wilt on the alltime triple dub list! Your MVP right there FAMS!
 
HCP said:
Russ with 50/16/10 and the god damn dagger in the hearts of the nuggets on the road! Fucking warrior! Set new record for triple dubs in a season, passed Wilt on the alltime triple dub list! Your MVP right there FAMS!
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absolutely amazing game but has there ever been an MVP whos team has won under 48 games in the last 50 years?
 
Rhal said:
absolutely amazing game but has there ever been an MVP whos team has won under 48 games in the last 50 years?
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Kobe should have won MVP in the 35PPG year.

Russ should be MVP no question, but there is a good chance he doesn't get it because of voting standards.
 
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B-Roy said:
Kobe should have won MVP in the 35PPG year.

Russ should be MVP no question, but there is a good chance he doesn't get it because of voting standards.
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I don't think he wins it no question. Really depends how you weigh stats and what matters to the voter.
 
The Portland backcourt votes for Russ. The players know who really deserves it
 
I like and respect triple-doubles, but I'm also interested in double digit turnovers: Russ has 5 this season.

J. Harden: 5
K. Leonard: 0

If I'm voting, I'm voting for Leonard.
 
What Westbrook was able to accomplish this season is amazing. The guy is a beast and you can't deny his talent. My problem with him is that I suspect that he's more proud of his individual accomplishment in breaking Oscar Robertson's record for triple doubles than he would have been in winning a title and sharing accolades for that with Durant. I think that MVP should go to the guy who is most responsible for helping his team achieve its goals instead of a player who just makes sure that he gets his own stats night in and night out.
 
HCP said:
Russ with 50/16/10 and the god damn dagger in the hearts of the nuggets on the road! Fucking warrior! Set new record for triple dubs in a season, passed Wilt on the alltime triple dub list! Your MVP right there FAMS!
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Why do you care so much? Seriously? Seems really weird. You've been making multiple posts on this for days. Why?

BNM
 
B-Roy said:
Kobe should have won MVP in the 35PPG year.

Russ should be MVP no question, but there is a good chance he doesn't get it because of voting standards.
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Yeah, heaven forbid voters should have standards!

BNM
 
Social justice warrior just like everyone else around here (exaggeration of course but there are a lot).
 
SlyPokerDog said:
@HCP has praised Westbrook in this thread more than he has ever praised Lillard in the entire forum.
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I'd probably vote for LeBron James. Even if Irving is an All-Star and Love is a former All-Star, that team sucks whenever James doesn't play. He's having another phenomenal statistical year and, get this, he plays really good defense. Westbrook and Harden are both painfully deficient at defense.
 
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