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After 9/11, look how the government fixed the problem. It is a joke going thru airport security and we spend billions to do it. it seemed as if every cause was lobbied for by bringing up 9/11. While I do not want idiots having access to high power rifles with large capacity clips, I do not want people to volunteer freedoms being taken away due to emotion.
 
"Never let a good crisis go to waste." -- Rahm Emmanuel, Obama Chief of Staff

Milk it for all it's worth.
 
In the words of the great philosopher, Neil Peart (a Canadian, Speeds);

You don't get something for nothing
You can't have freedom for free

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
 
This clearly shows you have no clue why the 2nd Amendment was written, you know next to nothing about guns or hunting, and you don't have the stones required to live as a free man.

For an ignorant troll, you're sure an ignorant troll. You have no ability to understand the thread or the subject at hand. Nor even hunting or what you're talking about.

But your posts are funny.
 
What if i want to hunt birds? No shotguns allowed?

I take that back. Owning multiple rifles is fine, but either single shot or double b. if a shotgun.

Hunters (the ones I've been with) use one shot to drop and another to kill (if need be). Why do we need rifles that shoot 45 shots on 60 seconds. I mean, that may be the way MarisTroll likes to hunt (because that's how people are mass killed, I suppose) but I don't think it's necessary.
 
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there is no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
 
Target shooters and clay pigeon shooters would probably prefer to have multiple rounds at their disposal. Ditto with biathletes.
 
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there is no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

Thankfully he seems to have gotten over his Ayn Rand kick in the last few decades.
 
So I'm just curious... for those of you who believe that the second amendment is for protection from a tyrannical government, isn't an assault rifle the exact thing that we should be owning? You're not going to do much with hunting rifles if you're intent on protecting your country.
 
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Here are some other massacres that were avoided with people being armed. This also sums up my thoughts on this subject.

•A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
•A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
•A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
•A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
•A 2007 mall shooting in Ogden, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
•A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
•A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
•At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon.
 
Nobody wants to hear that Charcoal. They have their agenda and they want to push it through.
 
So I'm just curious... for those of you who believe that the second amendment is for protection from a tyrannical government, isn't an assault rifle the exact thing that we should be owning? You're not going to do much with hunting rifles if you're intent on protecting your country.

Not going to do much with either. It was written over 200 years ago.
 
So I'm just curious... for those of you who believe that the second amendment is for protection from a tyrannical government, isn't an assault rifle the exact thing that we should be owning? You're not going to do much with hunting rifles if you're intent on protecting your country.

Watching the idiots on MSNBC say people are paranoid if they think we're ever going to have to take up arms against our government. I don't want to see it, of course. I don't think it's imminent or anything like that. What the MSNBC idiots fail to grasp is that the civilians armed with guns keeps the govt. honest. They'll think twice about becoming more fascist about search & seizure, civil rights violations, etc., if we are armed.

And some say it's ridiculous that the civilians could stand up to the might of the US military, yet we've seen tiny nations like Vietnam and other lawless situations like Somlia and Afghanistan turn into unwinnable situations for our military.
 
seriously, why do you watch MSNBC?
 
And I fail to see how gun ownership protects individuals from illegal search and seizure. The laws in our country protect us from them coming in, and citizens have the rights and abilities to go to court to protect themselves in that situation. A group of cops coming to search your house without a warrant becomes a much bigger situation if you then decide to pull a gun on them. I don't think they get warrants just because they fear home owners shooting them if they don't.

And you mention vietnam and afghanistan. Yet they aren't or weren't defending their country solely with the use of items that would be legal firearms in our country, so it's an irrelevant point.
 
QT Denny Crane

And some say it's ridiculous that the civilians could stand up to the might of the US military, yet we've seen tiny nations like Vietnam and other lawless situations like Somlia and Afghanistan turn into unwinnable situations for our military.



while not well represented here, there are millions on X military, and many with combat experience..not just a bunch of rice farmers here..yeah,an armed civilian population does keep the government as honest as it can be..
 
And I fail to see how gun ownership protects individuals from illegal search and seizure. The laws in our country protect us from them coming in, and citizens have the rights and abilities to go to court to protect themselves in that situation. A group of cops coming to search your house without a warrant becomes a much bigger situation if you then decide to pull a gun on them. I don't think they get warrants just because they fear home owners shooting them if they don't.

And you mention vietnam and afghanistan. Yet they aren't or weren't defending their country solely with the use of items that would be legal firearms in our country, so it's an irrelevant point.

You think any president would want to redo Waco (Branch Davidians)? Think of that on a massive scale. Every block in every city. Every farmhouse. And so on.

We could not disarm a 30M population with 150K troops (Iraq). How are you going to disarm a 320M population with 1.5M troops? It is simply not going to happen.
 
why is the government planning this massive attack anyways? If they so desired, one missile would take out waco, problem solved. Unless oyu think they're worried about killing i nnocent people, which then begs the question why a war is happening at all.
 
why is the government planning this massive attack anyways? If they so desired, one missile would take out waco, problem solved. Unless oyu think they're worried about killing i nnocent people, which then begs the question why a war is happening at all.

Look around the world. You see Arab Spring type revolts all over the place. It does happen. Greece, too, which isn't a middle eastern nation.

So we've all bought into raising taxes forever to cover whatever the government wants to spend and no matter how inefficient. At some point, the middle and lower classes will be taxed 85% (LITERALLY) to cover the bills we've racked up all along. I bet that level of taxation could lead to some very angry masses.
 
this same dumb argument. cars serve a realistic purpose outside of death.

Right because guns don't serve any useful purposes.... ?

The same terrible argument. You are the reason for failure, the school was completely unarmed.
 
I want you socialists to put a "gun-free zone" sign in front of your house.

Have fun with that.
 
this same dumb argument. cars serve a realistic purpose outside of death.

Once you get past the fact you're wrong about the purpose of guns, the rest may become clearer to you.
 
oh, right, they kill, or they are for entertainment for hitting targets. And then there's some for hunting. Of course, in hunting, it is killing. SO really, there's target shooting, or death.
 

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