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Yi someday might be a very good player. But right now he really stinks and the forward positions for the Nets are holding them back from taking it to another level as a team.
 
It's a tough call in my opinion. Yi obviously has all the tools to become a great PF in this league but his mentality and confidence seems to be what is holding him back. I'd keep him as a starter until he becomes more confortable and gets in the grove of things. And simmons should not be a starter, period.
 
Who gives a shit? On a night when the Nets prove they have potential this season and win a huge game in dramatic fashion, we are treated to a question that aims to be pissant and negative...and so very typical.
 
^^you can criticize and still love your team. only a fool cant see that both our forwards are terrible. yi has gotten worse and i dont know why.
 
I think Yi's just in a slump. I'm almost thinking he's going to have an awesome game tonight against the Clippers.
As for Simmons, he's done little for me to like him, but has come through from time to time. I still prefer Hayes coming off the bench though, he helps out TONS off the bench. Simmons just seems a bit to stiff out there for me. Less athletic than RJ
 
Well it's pretty clear that Yi has lost his way since that game in Miami. Bringing him off the bench may not be a bad idea. He can go against the other team's 2nd team and maybe the Nets can run a few more plays through him. Right now he is missing open jump shots, committing silly fouls etc. He should look at how Bargnani has come on for the Raptors and look to do the same himself.
 
Simmons doesn't bother me all that much. He hasn't been taking too many shots, and has been hitting around 45% over the past few days. Defense from the SF is not as vital as other positions. Yes, I think that is the glaring place where the Nets should upgrade if they have a chance, but he isn't hurting the nets as much as Yi right now.
 
Simmons doesn't bother me all that much. He hasn't been taking too many shots, and has been hitting around 45% over the past few days. Defense from the SF is not as vital as other positions. Yes, I think that is the glaring place where the Nets should upgrade if they have a chance, but he isn't hurting the nets as much as Yi right now.

Yi is certainly not playing well but let's be realistic here. He would be hurting the Nets big time if he was playing major minutes and the Nets are getting blown out when he is on the floor. I think you'll find that's not what is happening because when he isn't playing well, Franks has certainly kept his minutes well down to negate him from having a negative impact on the team's performance.
 
Who gives a shit? On a night when the Nets prove they have potential this season and win a huge game in dramatic fashion, we are treated to a question that aims to be pissant and negative...and so very typical.

I give a shit. Do you only want homerism here?

Okay fine, FCE was up on Friday! (But let's not mention that it's down over 90% from last year and its bonds are rated as junk)
 
doesn't Yi like have a strained neck or something maybe thats why hes struggling.
 
doesn't Yi like have a strained neck or something maybe thats why hes struggling.

He's been performing below expectations for a while now, so the neck injury isn't an excuse.
 
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Of course they both played their best game right after this thread was posted.

They don't need to carry the team, they just need to play their roles like they did tonight.
 
Of course they both played their best game right after this thread was posted.

They don't need to carry the team, they just need to play their roles like they did tonight.

Wut! and I was all set to have a lynching party! I'll put the torches back in storage. Funny, Yi and Simmons have a good game and everyone is confused, like WTF, who can we hate now?
 
Wut! and I was all set to have a lynching party! I'll put the torches back in storage. Funny, Yi and Simmons have a good game and everyone is confused, like WTF, who can we hate now?

I would love to be wrong but a handful of games aint gonna cut it. Build off this game and show me more.
 
I would love to be wrong but a handful of games aint gonna cut it. Build off this game and show me more.

Not every player in the NBA is an All-Star. What do they need to show you?

You were the one who was so adamant about young players getting all the playing time and now you are complaining that Yi is such a weak player at his position.

Then when he has a good game you say "show me more". What's that about?
 
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Not every player in the NBA is an All-Star. What do they need to show you?

You were the one who was so adamant about young players getting all the playing time and now you are complaining that Yi is such a weak player at his position.

Then when he has a good game you say "show me more". What's that about?

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Simmons doesn't bother me all that much. He hasn't been taking too many shots, and has been hitting around 45% over the past few days. Defense from the SF is not as vital as other positions. Yes, I think that is the glaring place where the Nets should upgrade if they have a chance, but he isn't hurting the nets as much as Yi right now.

Again, Simmons has been pretty acceptable. After last night, if you average his stats over the past seven games, they've been close to perfect for what the nets need out of him. Now he's up to 17-for-39 (43.5%), which comes to 5.6 shots per game, and 9-for-21 (42.8%) from 3. He also has 17 rebounds over his last two games, and seems to always be the guy chasing the ball out of bounds.

That seems to be pretty acceptable to me from the starting SF.

Hopefully this is the start of some newfound confidence from Yi.
 
Of course they both played their best game right after this thread was posted.

They don't need to carry the team, they just need to play their roles like they did tonight.

The question is whether Yi can build on this, or if he disappears again. The game against the lakers will be a huge test. I guess he will match up against Pau.
 
Simmons may be playing well for him but there is no way his stats equal 10 million (avg) for this year and next. If they could package him and another player in a trade - the Nets should jump on it
 
Simmons may be playing well for him but there is no way his stats equal 10 million (avg) for this year and next. If they could package him and another player in a trade - the Nets should jump on it

The NBA isn't really set up for teams to get maximum value out of every contract. Simmons was a matching salary. If he can be that agian, that's great - it's not bad to have one around if you are trying to get a deal done. If not, he provides the Nets value even if he sits on the bench for two years and his contract expires.
 
Not every player in the NBA is an All-Star. What do they need to show you?

You were the one who was so adamant about young players getting all the playing time and now you are complaining that Yi is such a weak player at his position.

Then when he has a good game you say "show me more". What's that about?
He doesn't have to be an All-Star. Just better than what he was when I posted the thread. Last night was a step in that direction. I hope he builds off that.

Yes, I want the young kids to play. I never said Yi's minutes should be cut.

Yes, I want him to show me more. You want him to show you less?
 
He doesn't have to be an All-Star. Just better than what he was when I posted the thread. Last night was a step in that direction. I hope he builds off that.

Yes, I want the young kids to play. I never said Yi's minutes should be cut.

Yes, I want him to show me more. You want him to show you less?

No. I understand that he isn't really ready to be a solid NBA starter yet and I am willing to wait for his experience to catch up to his skills.

But if you are calling for all the young players to get major minutes, it seems strange to complain when they look bad (and even stranger to be negative about it when they do well). They are playing against better players who are know how to make things tough on inexperienced ones.
 
No. I understand that he isn't really ready to be a solid NBA starter yet and I am willing to wait for his experience to catch up to his skills.

But if you are calling for all the young players to get major minutes, it seems strange to complain when they look bad (and even stranger to be negative about it when they do well). They are playing against better players who are know how to make things tough on inexperienced ones.
I'm willing to live and die this season with Lopez, Yi, Anderson, CDR, Boone and Sean Williams getting significant minutes
 
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