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U B da GM (S2 Version)-- Nate. Should he be here next year?


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The anti-Nate gang should have been lobbying for Nate as COY instead of ripping him for being considered for the award.


As the should be President of that "gang", I would like to go on record as saying I never ripped him for being considered for the award.
 
I voted go because I don't feel like wasting Brandon Roy's prime and what is left of his knees on a coach who insists on an offense that wears Roy down, is easily defended in the playoffs, and has a terrible time making adjustments - especially in game.
 
I voted go because I don't feel like wasting Brandon Roy's prime and what is left of his knees on a coach who insists on an offense that wears Roy down, is easily defended in the playoffs, and has a terrible time making adjustments - especially in game.

How does slowing down the game "waste" and "wear down" Brandon Roy and his knees? Curious.
 
How does slowing down the game "waste" and "wear down" Brandon Roy and his knees? Curious.

Because it's super easy to score against a set defense -- you're basically saying Jerome Bettis didn't take much of beating because he only had to rap off 3 or 4 year runs between the tackles and "bowling ball" his way to the first down marker.
 
How does slowing down the game "waste" and "wear down" Brandon Roy and his knees? Curious.

Nik answered it pretty well. Brandon has to work hard to create space to drive the lane, and he gets hit and thrown down a lot by much bigger guys than him. He does a lot of cuts and is very crafty creating that room, but that is hard on the knees and very hard on the body when you get thrown down a lot. There is a reason why under Wade's jersey it basically looks like he should be playing football instead of basketball with all the padding he has on.

I'm not advocating that we be a 7 seconds or less team or anything similar, not at all. I'd prefer a coach that simply didn't rely so much on Brandon creating offense with the ISO and the pick n pop.
 
I think the most important part of a coach is having your players respect and focus. It doesn't matter if your a genius and can make the greatest adjustments, if the players don't buy into what your asking for it won't work.

I see the Blazer players respecting Nate and following what he asks of them. If they start to tune him out then it's time to go.

I still remember PJ Carlesimo and Maurce Cheeks.... those guys were FAR far worse than Nate so while I get frustrated with Nate's offense and starting lineup's I just remember those dark days which makes his coaching seem much better.
 
I think the most important part of a coach is having your players respect and focus. It doesn't matter if your a genius and can make the greatest adjustments, if the players don't buy into what your asking for it won't work.

I see the Blazer players respecting Nate and following what he asks of them. If they start to tune him out then it's time to go.

I still remember PJ Carlesimo and Maurce Cheeks.... those guys were FAR far worse than Nate so while I get frustrated with Nate's offense and starting lineup's I just remember those dark days which makes his coaching seem much better.

Repped... Excellent points!
 
I think the most important part of a coach is having your players respect and focus. It doesn't matter if your a genius and can make the greatest adjustments, if the players don't buy into what your asking for it won't work.

I see the Blazer players respecting Nate and following what he asks of them. If they start to tune him out then it's time to go.

I still remember PJ Carlesimo and Maurce Cheeks.... those guys were FAR far worse than Nate so while I get frustrated with Nate's offense and starting lineup's I just remember those dark days which makes his coaching seem much better.

Both with better records as Blazer coach than Nate. Absolutely silly point IMO. Just cause you are respected doesn't mean shit if you can't coach.
 
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I think it is more of a humorous point to be honest - Nate claims that he wants to push the pace more each and every single year, and that he only has the team switch on picks defensively in emergencies. Well, once again we were either last or near last place in pace and once again we seemed to have emergencies the majority of the time defending the pick and roll. So either Nate is a very bad coach, or the players have tuned him out. Nate could also be the victim of having several different groups of players who simply cannot do those things despite his and their best efforts, of course, but I suppose he'd have to be as cursed as Bill Walton's feet.
 
Because it's super easy to score against a set defense -- you're basically saying Jerome Bettis didn't take much of beating because he only had to rap off 3 or 4 year runs between the tackles and "bowling ball" his way to the first down marker.


I'm saying Roy isn't an uptempo player. He is Jerome Bettis, to some degree. Running toss sweeps with Bettis would have been fucking stupid. I thought that post was fucking stupid too, so I commented on it. Implying that Nate is somehow hurting Roy's career , or will hurt his career, seemed fucking stupid to me.
 
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I'm saying Roy isn't an uptempo player. He is Jerome Bettis, to some degree. Running toss sweeps with Bettis would have been fucking stupid. I thought that post was fucking stupid too, so I commented on it. Implying that Nate is somehow hurting Roy's career , or will hurt his career, seemed fucking stupid to me.

But can't there be an easier way to get Roy to the basket in our half court offense? The answer is yes of course.

Roy would benefit by more player movement so the defense can't sink into the key. Roy moving off the ball would get him clearer lanes to the basket off of the wing. For him to have to wait until the defense is set and waiting for him is counter productive. The only reason he is so successful is because he is so great. Roy doesn't have to sprint out on the break, but if the team pushed the ball and hit him as a trailer, he would still be in possition to attack the defense before it was set.
 
But can't there be an easier way to get Roy to the basket in our half court offense? The answer is yes of course.

Roy would benefit by more player movement so the defense can't sink into the key. Roy moving off the ball would get him clearer lanes to the basket off of the wing. For him to have to wait until the defense is set and waiting for him is counter productive. The only reason he is so successful is because he is so great. Roy doesn't have to sprint out on the break, but if the team pushed the ball and hit him as a trailer, he would still be in possition to attack the defense before it was set.

This is just fucking stupid, I felt like I needed to point out how fucking stupid this is, did I mention this is fucking stupid?
 
I think the most important part of a coach is having your players respect and focus. It doesn't matter if your a genius and can make the greatest adjustments, if the players don't buy into what your asking for it won't work.

I see the Blazer players respecting Nate and following what he asks of them. If they start to tune him out then it's time to go.

I still remember PJ Carlesimo and Maurce Cheeks.... those guys were FAR far worse than Nate so while I get frustrated with Nate's offense and starting lineup's I just remember those dark days which makes his coaching seem much better.

I agree, the very best reason to keep a coach is if the one before him were worse.

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But can't there be an easier way to get Roy to the basket in our half court offense? The answer is yes of course.

Roy would benefit by more player movement so the defense can't sink into the key. Roy moving off the ball would get him clearer lanes to the basket off of the wing. For him to have to wait until the defense is set and waiting for him is counter productive. The only reason he is so successful is because he is so great. Roy doesn't have to sprint out on the break, but if the team pushed the ball and hit him as a trailer, he would still be in possition to attack the defense before it was set.

Having Roy run around more on offense is going to save his knees? Interesting theory, there. I find criticizing Nate for how Roy is as a player fucking hilarious. The original post I was responded to was still fucking stupid, in my opinion.
 
Having Roy run around more on offense is going to save his knees? Interesting theory, there. I find criticizing Nate for how Roy is as a player fucking hilarious. The original post I was responded to was still fucking stupid, in my opinion.

Do you understand the difference between running off screens and creating your offense with cuts at the top of the key and three point line? Somehow I don't think you do.
 
Do you understand the difference between running off screens and creating your offense with cuts at the top of the key and three point line? Somehow I don't think you do.

Fire Nate because he's ruining Brandon Roy!

Get a grip. There are plenty of reasons to fire Nate, if you so choose. Some valid, some ridiculous. That said, I found your "reason" fucking stupid. That's a whole new level.

If you want to turn Roy into Rip Hamilton, just trade him for Rip Hamilton.
 
The anti-Nate gang should have been lobbying for Nate as COY instead of ripping him for being considered for the award.
What the fuck does this even mean?

Other than Popovich, every COY in the last decade has been gone within 3 years of winning the award. Those who want Nate gone would hope for the same for him, see?
 

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