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crandc said:
How did we get from a transgender homecoming queen to MM saying he's so persecuted because he gets looked at funny?
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How does anything happen on this forum? Someone yells "where's my parade, dammit?" And the discussion derails.
 
crandc said:
How did we get from a transgender homecoming queen to MM saying he's so persecuted because he gets looked at funny?
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Page two when Julius told me to read a book.


For the record, I am all for him being homecoming queen. Must be a really popular kid to garner the votes for it.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Page two when Julius told me to read a book.


For the record, I am all for him being homecoming queen. Must be a really popular kid to garner the votes for it.
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That's kinda the thing. It wasn't like he put himself in this voting thing. You are voted in.
 
Like the transgender bathroom situation, I suspect parents (and us) are making a bigger deal out of this than the students.
 
magnifier661 said:
That's kinda the thing. It wasn't like he put himself in this voting thing. You are voted in.
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Actually he started a youtube channel with this goal in mind.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-transgender-homecoming-queen-20130923,0,738182.story

In the video, Cassidy Lynn Campbell, a senior at Marina High School in Huntington Beach, said she put herself up for the title because she hoped to make a statement and draw attention to the push for equality for transgender people.
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Denny Crane said:
And the kids voted for HER.

What's up with that?

At least you finally got the "SHE" part right.
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Him. Its a guy. Just because you say you're a girl doesn't mean you are. Born a guy, has a penis, adams apple. There's nothing that makes this guy a female other than what he thinks. Its a guy in drag.

This guy is living a lie and is probably fucked up in the head mentally.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Smarter and more disciplined.
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Exactly. If you put in hard work you can reap rewards. Some people are too lazy.

Look at Asian Indian Americans. Some people associate them as terrorists and Muslims (only 10% are Muslims, they just have the skin color to match middle eastern people) and the past 12 yrs these people have probably been among the most oppressed. Yet, you see them as a whole as one of the most successful ethnic groups. They had the highest annual household income in 2010 among all ethnic groups
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Smaller penises mean they're less likely to get laid in high school, and thus study more.
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Sure. There's always that. Penis size and intelligence must be inversely proportional. Would explain others as well.
 
This guy had a really small penis!

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Back on topic, the notion of "gender as a social construct" is the part of this that puzzles me. What exactly do we mean by that? Are we saying that the perceived social differences between the genders are created by society? Girls have a higher tendency to liking dolls and boys have a higher tendency toward athletic competition because society tells them to?

Then I wonder, when transgender people say they were born the wrong gender, how is that determined? How does this teenager determine early in life that he is actually a she? Is it because of a subconscious tendency toward those characteristics that society has identified as conforming to one particular gender's identity? Doesn't this suggest that being transgender shows that gender isn't actually a social construct, but that the sociologically identified differences between the genders are in fact legitimate?
 
As I understand it from a friend, it's about the self-image (not the self-image that means self esteem): what shape you feel you are when you close your eyes. Sexuality and gender both have mental and physical components (hormonally, genetically, or mentally sourced), which in certain combinations leads to biologically "mostly male" but mentally "mostly female" dichotomies. It's like the inverse of phantom limb syndrome in a way; the body parts feel wrong the way they are configured.

I'm probably getting details wrong, or filtering them through my friend's interpretation of what was happening to her. But as far as she was concerned, it was (obviously) much more than just a Munchhausen syndrome thing.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Back on topic, the notion of "gender as a social construct" is the part of this that puzzles me. What exactly do we mean by that? Are we saying that the perceived social differences between the genders are created by society? Girls have a higher tendency to liking dolls and boys have a higher tendency toward athletic competition because society tells them to?

Then I wonder, when transgender people say they were born the wrong gender, how is that determined? How does this teenager determine early in life that he is actually a she? Is it because of a subconscious tendency toward those characteristics that society has identified as conforming to one particular gender's identity? Doesn't this suggest that being transgender shows that gender isn't actually a social construct, but that the sociologically identified differences between the genders are in fact legitimate?
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Wow great construct to get us back on tract!

I believe that it has more to do with the ego than what is natural. Does the Dog humping the other male mean he is gay or maybe showing his dominance? Or why do the lionesses hunt, while the male sits on his ass? A little backwards don't you think?

Regardless, I believe humanity is pretty complex. There are so many variables that can determine a person's ego. Society's influence is one of them.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Back on topic, the notion of "gender as a social construct" is the part of this that puzzles me. What exactly do we mean by that? Are we saying that the perceived social differences between the genders are created by society? Girls have a higher tendency to liking dolls and boys have a higher tendency toward athletic competition because society tells them to?

Then I wonder, when transgender people say they were born the wrong gender, how is that determined? How does this teenager determine early in life that he is actually a she? Is it because of a subconscious tendency toward those characteristics that society has identified as conforming to one particular gender's identity? Doesn't this suggest that being transgender shows that gender isn't actually a social construct, but that the sociologically identified differences between the genders are in fact legitimate?
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Let me ask you a question, Platypus. At what point in your life did you realize you were a boy? I'd guess you can't remember. You'll say something like you always knew. Oh, maybe not at birth, but from the time you had awareness you knew you were a boy.

Transpeople are just the same. The only difference is that the gender they know themselves to be does not match their physical genitalia.

Transgender is not the same as gender nonconforming. Brittney Griner, for example, is gender nonconforming but not transgender, she has made it clear she always thought of herself as a girl/woman but did not fit the norm of conduct - she prefers male clothing on many occasions, for example. Chelsea Manning is transgender. And due to social prejudice transfolks often go to extremes - transwomen frequently join military and other hyper-male environments trying to "cure" themselves.

Gender nonconformance is a continuum. I have been called unfeminine, often, due to being too outspoken, too good at math, too knowledgeable about sports, and neither knowing nor caring about fashion. And yet I clearly present as a woman. I just don't fit the straitjacket. And this is why gender is indeed a social construct. Because there are shades of gray; transgender, gender nonconforming to greater or less degree, gender conforming, cis gender. And then throw in that definitions of what is proper for male and female has changed over the years, and also varies with race/class (while white women were seen as helpless, fragile, in need of male "protection", and asexual, black women were seen as Amazons who could do unlimited labor, hypersexual, minxes who "made" men rape them). Once a female president was a joke, now it's a very high probability. Once girls were told running would make their uterus fall out, now female athletes are common. Once women were told college education makes us infertile, now women are the majority in colleges. So which is true female gender?
 
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