NBA announces All-Defensive Teams

[KeepOnRollin]

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/05/25/...ction-for-all-defensive-first-team/index.html

2015-16 NBA ALL-DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM

Player (Team), 1st Team Votes, 2nd Team Votes, Total

Kawhi Leonard (San Antonio), 130, --, 260

Draymond Green (Golden State), 123, 5, 251

DeAndre Jordan (L.A. Clippers), 47, 43, 137

Avery Bradley (Boston), 62, 25, 149

Chris Paul (L.A. Clippers), 59, 30, 148


2015-16 NBA ALL-DEFENSIVE SECOND TEAM

Player (Team), 1st Team Votes, 2nd Team Votes, Total

Paul Millsap (Atlanta), 11, 75, 97

Paul George (Indiana), 5 , 38, 48

Hassan Whiteside (Miami), 44, 38, 126

Tony Allen (Memphis), 44, 33, 121

Jimmy Butler (Chicago), 18, 26 , 62

Other players receiving votes, with point totals (First Team votes in parentheses): Rudy Gobert, Utah, 64 (17); Klay Thompson, Golden State, 49 (16); Jae Crowder, Boston, 47 (3); LeBron James, Cleveland, 43 (5); Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 43 (9); Danny Green, San Antonio, 39 (9); Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 35 (12); Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 33 (5); Ricky Rubio, Minnesota, 30 (6); Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Detroit, 27 (3); Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 24 (3); Andre Drummond, Detroit, 14 (5); Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City, 14 (1); Stephen Curry, Golden State, 13 (3); Andre Iguodala, Golden State, 13 (3); Patrick Beverley, Houston, 11 (1); Al Horford, Atlanta, 7 (1); Marcus Smart, Boston, 7 (2); John Wall, Washington, 6; Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee, 3; Trevor Ariza, Houston, 3; Kent Bazemore, Atlanta, 3; Andrew Bogut, Golden State, 3 (1); DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 3 (1); Nicolas Batum, Charlotte, 2; Victor Oladipo, Orlando, 2 (1); LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio, 1; Harrison Barnes, Golden State, 1; Bismack Biyombo, Toronto, 1;Mike Conley, Memphis, 1; Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 1; Derrick Favors, Utah, 1; George Hill, Indiana, 1; Wesley Matthews, Dallas, 1; Luc Mbah a Moute, Los Angeles Clippers; Kristaps Porzingis, New York, 1; Andre Roberson, Oklahoma City, 1; Mike Scott, Atlanta, 1; Dwyane Wade, Miami, 1.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I like the Avery Bradley choice. Nice to reward a somewhat under the radar guy who gets it done.

Batum with two 2nd team votes. LMA with 1 2nd team vote. Ok. But Wesley got one 2nd team vote this year? The poor guy can't stay in front of anyone anymore (not really his fault of course).

 

[BlazerCaravan]

That has to be a kick in the nuts to Paul George, seeing Draymond in front of him.

 

[e_blazer]

I'm hoping that Olshey will add at least one player to the Blazers' roster who's capable of making at least the also-ran list next season.

 

[Tunchi]

Damn not 1 vote for Aminu?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Damn not 1 vote for Aminu?

How can that be? Some claim he's a better defender than Paul Millsap.

BNM

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I'm hoping that Olshey will add at least one player to the Blazers' roster who's capable of making at least the also-ran list next season.

I think it is partly scheme. Notice all the Hawk players receiving votes? They aren't all great individual defenders. That team as whole just plays very good D.

But yes, we need to get better at defense and add people who help us win.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think it is partly scheme. Notice all the Hawk players receiving votes? They aren't all great individual defenders. That team as whole just plays very good D.

But yes, we need to get better at defense and add people who help us win.

Budenholzer has really stressed team defense in ATL the same way it's taught in SAS. It would be nice to take advantage of that by prying one, or more, of those guys away from ATL.

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Budenholzer has really stressed team defense in ATL the same way it's taught in SAS. It would be nice to take advantage of that by prying one, or more, of those guys away from ATL.

BNM

Um, given your description, the guy would have to be Budenholzer.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I definitely think Aminu should have gotten some votes. However, the team finished in the bottom half of the NBA in Drtg, so I'm not surprised.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Budenholzer has really stressed team defense in ATL the same way it's taught in SAS. It would be nice to take advantage of that by prying one, or more, of those guys away from ATL.

BNM

Unless we lose Crabbe then Horford is the only one I want (Milsap will take too much in trade equity to make it worth it imo). If we lost Crabbe and had a little money to burn then I would also consider Bazemore. I don't see room for him here though unless Allen leaves.

 

[Red Rooster]

Didn't Whiteside come in 3rd for defensive player of the year? But he's 2nd team?

Edit - He indeed come 3rd, Draymond 2nd. But they have DeAndre on 1st team, and Whiteside on 2nd team. #NBAlogic

 

[Boob-No-More]

Um, given your description, the guy would have to be Budenholzer.

Nah, once veterans like Millsap, Horford and Bazemore learn the proper fundamentals of team defense they carry that knowledge with them. Watch how active they are, their positioning, active hands, etc.

BNM

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Didn't Whiteside come in 3rd for defensive player of the year? But he's 2nd team?

Edit - He indeed come 3rd, Draymond 2nd. But they have DeAndre on 1st team, and Whiteside on 2nd team. #NBAlogic

I am assuming different people vote for the award vs the 1st and 2nd teams.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Didn't Whiteside come in 3rd for defensive player of the year? But he's 2nd team?

The voting was REALLY close between him and DeAndre Jordan. Jordan is definitely better at defending the pick and roll.

Plus, the voting is now done by members of the media, not by the coaches, like it used to be. So, there will be some homer votes and some votes based more on reputation than current season performance.

BNM

 

[Red Rooster]

I am assuming different people vote for the award vs the 1st and 2nd teams.

I'm a sure that's true. It's still just illogical and inconsistent to me. I guess that's on par for the NBA, though.

 

[Mediocre Man]

How can that be? Some claim he's a better defender than Paul Millsap.

BNM

Do you think those people are confusing better with more versatile? Aminu is not a great defender by any means, but he can not guard that great 3 positions, while Milsap is a pretty good defender for 1

 

[Red Rooster]

The voting was REALLY close between him and DeAndre Jordan. Jordan is definitely better at defending the pick and roll.

Plus, the voting is now done by members of the media, not by the coaches, like it used to be. So, there will be some homer votes and some votes based more on reputation than current season performance.

BNM

I completely agree with you on Jordan. It just looks funny at first glance.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Do you think those people are confusing better with more versatile? Aminu is not a great defender by any means, but he can not guard that great 3 positions, while Milsap is a pretty good defender for 1

Nope, I think it's irrational homerism. I like Chief, but I also realize the obvious, that Millsap is a far superior defender (only player in the top 10 in both BLKs and STLs, led the entire league in Defensive Win Shares, 3rd in Defensive Box Plus/Minus 4th in DRtg, 5th in DPOY voting, 2nd Team All Defense, etc.).

BNM

 

[Rastapopoulos]

That has to be a kick in the nuts to Paul George, seeing Draymond in front of him.

I think Rudy Gobert has more grounds for complaint about Paul George. Arbitrary rules about positions trump more first team AND more total votes.

 

[handiman]

Thank god RoLo didn't get any votes. That would have been cruel.

 

[blue9]

I definitely think Aminu should have gotten some votes.

Do you think any NBA has ever thought to themselves "Oh shit, I have to go up against Aminu?". I sincerely doubt that thought has ever crossed any NBA player's mind.

 

[WillG]

Do you think any NBA has ever thought to themselves "Oh shit, I have to go up against Aminu?". I sincerely doubt that thought has ever crossed any NBA player's mind.

I think it happened multiple times per game this season.

Opponents would be ready to shake 'n bake - then a switch happens, and instead of being guarded by Lillard/McCollum, they're now faced with the extremely long Aminu.

I would laugh at how quickly they would pass the ball on to someone else.

 

[BonesJones]

I think it happened multiple times per game this season.

Opponents would be ready to shake 'n bake - then a switch happens, and instead of being guarded by Lillard/McCollum, they're now faced with the extremely long Aminu.

I would laugh at how quickly they would pass the ball on to someone else.

How quickly they passed into the mismatch advantage the team had against one of our smaller guards? That's not because of Aminu...

 

[WillG]

How quickly they passed into the mismatch advantage the team had against one of our smaller guards? That's not because of Aminu...

That's valid to read it that way - my fault for not explaining well.
A better way to phrase what I intended:

I'd always notice a players demeanor and body language change when Aminu was guarding them, as opposed to when other players on our team defended them. (regardless of mismatches)

Aminu at the least, forced them to change up their attack strategy. And it looked to me like opponents didn't like it. My 2c.

 

[PDXFonz]

A lot of good defenders on that list, and I haven't compared any stats. However I would still argue with you if you told me that George Hill, MBah Moute, and Roberson are all more deserving of votes than the Chief.

I know Chief would # some of his Instagram posts with phrases related to being All-NBA defense. Hopefully this doesn't discourage him and he comes back next season with the same intensity. I love Chief, in many ways he does things that I had always hoped Batum would do. He's not at Batum's skill level right now, but if he keeps it up he can get there and could end up being a much better player for us than Nic ever was.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Do you think any NBA has ever thought to themselves "Oh shit, I have to go up against Aminu?". I sincerely doubt that thought has ever crossed any NBA player's mind.

I think there was a fair amount of....

"Player X is on Team Y.
Team Y is pretty good.
I'll vote for someone on Team Y.
I'll vote for LaMarcus (or whoever)".

 

[blue9]

That's valid to read it that way - my fault for not explaining well.
A better way to phrase what I intended:

I'd always notice a players demeanor and body language change when Aminu was guarding them, as opposed to when other players on our team defended them. (regardless of mismatches)

Aminu at the least, forced them to change up their attack strategy. And it looked to me like opponents didn't like it. My 2c.

More likely they were merely sizing up the situation. I don't think anyone feared Aminu as a defender. He's long, but otherwise average.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Lmao Curry has more votes than guys like Marcus Smart, John Wall, and Mike Conley

 

[KingSpeed]

Aminu shut down Paul George when he had been on fire for weeks. But nevermind Aminu. Why didn't Meyers Leonard receive any votes? He shut down Cousins and Gasol.