NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2 (Merged)

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I couldn't stand his approach to the game: dribble 20 seconds off the clock, and then either chuck up a three, or make a flaming bag pass. On a good night, he might play catch with another perimeter player - but he never worked the ball inside until it was too late in the shot clock.

Calling him a "point guard" was an insult to the English language. :smiley-whatever:

LOL, fair enough. Actually I remember me and my friends would guess the plays. We had a pet name for the one you just mentioned. We called it "DTTB!" Dribble till they are board!
 
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I can't play this at work. Care to give a brief synopsis? (hopefully the gist is "we're looking for good basketball players").
Spoke about how there are so few stars in this draft, and was really surprised to see Jones going back to UK. Also spoke about how there are a ton of guys this year who could potentially have gone top 5 but chose to go back to school because of (paraphrasing) uncertainty in the league.

Said the thing they're looking most to add is size and speed. No positions mentioned.
 
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Spoke about how there are so few stars in this draft, and was really surprised to see Jones going back to UK. Also spoke about how there are a ton of guys this year who could potentially have gone top 5 but chose to go back to school because of (paraphrasing) uncertainty in the league.

Said the thing they're looking most to add is size and speed. No positions mentioned.

What on earth were you listening to? He specifically stated that he could NOT discuss any player specifically that went back to school, so he most definitely DID NOT mention Jones going back to UK, all he said was there were a few players who looked like top 5 picks that made surprising moves to go back (aka Perry Jones and Harrison Barnes).

Additionally, he talked for several minutes about the PG position and how they'll definitely be looking at bringing in a pg with our pick.

Other tidbits of interest: said in the past they've brought WAY too many players in to work out, but that's created too much busy work. Will pare down that number this year and likely only bring in around 20-30, instead of wasting their time with a lot of marginal talent (seems to me to be setting up a smokescreen, but who knows...). Could be more "too much reading into things" but he also used the specific term "with our pick" several times this year - didn't sound as if they were planning on being too aggressive to move up in the draft, but again, that could be much ado about nothing...
 
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I hope POR is taking a long look at Charles Jenkins from Hofstra. Kind of an under the radar kid who has put up some very good numbers, but what really stands out to me is the following:

According to data from Synergy Sports Technology, Jenkins ranks as the second most efficient isolation threat in the NCAA (after Andrew Goudelock), scoring on over 50% of his attempts when going one on one (minimum 50 possessions). He also ranks in the top-10 in pick and roll situations and in the top-25 as a catch and shoot threat.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Charles-Jenkins-6189/

Three KEY areas of need for POR, the ability to create 1v1 when the offense stagnates in the halfcourt, the ability to execute the pick and roll with guys like Aldridge & (hopefully) Oden and the ability to hit the outside shot (and hit that 10-15ft 2pt jumper) and make defenses pay when they try to clog the lane.

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What on earth were you listening to?

The first 10mins or so while working. I thought I heard Jones' name specifically.

Heh. There go my listening comprehension skills.

Thx for the full recap.
 
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The first 10mins or so while working. I thought I heard Jones' name specifically.

Heh. There go my listening comprehension skills.

Thx for the full recap.

No worries. Jones WAS mentioned, but it was by Rice, and CBuch gave the answer that you implied he did, just not specifically about Jones in particular.
 
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Listening to Chad Ford today Brandon Knight sounds like the absolute perfect guard for this team. A deadly shooter with a killer instinct. Would have to trade into the top-5. Could be a safer pick than Irving.
 
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Josh Selby. People are sleeping on Josh Selby.
 
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He also said Selby would be a high riser in this draft. He's been killing it so far in workouts.
 
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Josh Selby. People are sleeping on Josh Selby.

Selby strikes me as exceedingly immature. He CLEARLY had issues keeping in good graces at Kansas.

Not saying that I'm opposed to having a knucklehead or two on the team, but I don't know about banking on a kid like that in this draft.

I've been high on Brandon Knight for a long time. Kid is extremely smart and a notoriously hard worker and established leader - as a true freshman. He'll be tough to get ahold of though.

I still think there's an opportunity with Detroit that high up in the lotto. They need to dump their unhappy vets more than they need to get a young piece.
 
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I wouldn't mind Cory Joseph.

Not a great freshman year at Texas but was pretty highly regarded coming out of high school. Was known as somewhat of a ball dominant, scoring PG but showed he could play off the ball. Shot 40+ percent from 3 and had a solid ast : to ratio of 2.

Good size at 6' 3" too although he could stand to bulk up a bit more.
 
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I wouldn't mind Cory Joseph.

Not a great freshman year at Texas but was pretty highly regarded coming out of high school. Was known as somewhat of a ball dominant, scoring PG but showed he could play off the ball. Shot 40+ percent from 3 and had a solid ast : to ratio of 2.

Good size at 6' 3" too although he could stand to bulk up a bit more.

He's going back to school. I'll put money on it.
 
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He's going back to school. I'll put money on it.

The deadline to withdraw was may 8th.

The two Canadian freshmen both stuck by their decisions to leave UT and turn professional, passing on a chance to withdraw from the NBA draft and retain their college eligibility. UT confirmed the departure of both Thompson and Joseph shortly after Sunday's 11 p.m. deadline

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkc/men/7556239.html
 
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There's a few decent backup 4 options in this draft that intrigue me.
 
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Kenneth Farried or Markieff Morris are realistic options where we are picking and if they feel like trying to move up (in a draft widely regarded as shite) it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility to purchase a pick and try to move up and get somebody they really like -- though I have no idea who that would be.
 
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There's a few decent backup 4 options in this draft that intrigue me.

For a back-up 4 I like Markieff Morris. Kenneth Faried is a guy I like too, but with hopefully either Greg or LMA on the floor at all times, I would much rather have a spacer like Markieff who is still a solid rebounder and defender.

Package our 21st and one of last years draft pick and cash and move up to the 14-15 spot and I think we're in good position to grab him.

I'm also really falling in love with Norris Cole, PG out of Cleveland State. I know most a starting to get with the idea that Darius Morris is the guy we should look at, but Norris Cole is a much more well-rounded player. Darius might have the gaudy assists numbers. but he was the sole playmaker on that team much like Evan Turner was for Ohio State.

Norris Cole is still a very solid floor general in his own right, but can play in an off the ball role as well. Good shooter (were he is equally as good spotting up or pulling up of the bounce which is very important especially when it comes to pnr play) and can dribble and finish with both hands very comfortably whereas Darius is extremely right hand dominant.



http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Norris-Cole-6234/



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Save yourself the heartache, don't "fall in love" with any of these guys, this could be a historically shitty draft with a ton of the decent underclassmen going back to school because of the labor uncertainty in the league.
 
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This may sound crazy, but there's a little Kobe to Marshon Brooks' game. He's absolutely killing it in 3-on-3 rt now He's waaaay underrated
-Chad Ford Twitter

We have our first workout wonder.
 
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Save yourself the heartache, don't "fall in love" with any of these guys, this could be a historically shitty draft with a ton of the decent underclassmen going back to school because of the labor uncertainty in the league.

Falling in love was probably a bit too strong, and hey I really liked Armon Johnson going into the draft and was very happy Portland drafted him and look how that turned out....lol. Still like his upside a bit but it was amazing how fast and drastic his performance dropped off after a couple of great weeks to start the season.

Cole just looks like he has a nice back-up pg skill set, much like Eric Maynor. Not great at any one thing, but is just a solid all around pg.
 
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Cole just looks like he has a nice back-up pg skill set, much like Eric Maynor. Not great at any one thing, but is just a solid all around pg.

I was thinking more along the lines of Lester Hudson.
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of Lester Hudson.


Cole is the better passer, ball handler and has a higher IQ. More of a team player also.

Plus, Hudson was a 24 year old senior.
 
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Look, it doesn't matter if this draft class is "historically shitty" or not....the draft is basically our only way to stockpile talent. We aren't going to be under the cap enough to sign someone major for at least 5 years. We're not going to sway ring-shopping veterans to come here unless we start doing some major contention. We don't have the depth or young, quality assets anymore to make another G-Wallace trade, and we're not a major competitor in the MLE sweepstakes. The draft is it.

That said, even in the 2000 draft (worst of all time?) and 2006 draft there were quality players scattered across the board. Personally, I'd like to see us come out of the draft with 3 or 4 young players that the scouting/management team has liked. It's our only chance for talent. I'm not saying that the 52nd pick will be an all-star, but Brian Cardinal, Michael Redd, Eduardo Najera and Eddie House could help our team (all 2nd-round picks from the "shittest draft ever"). Marko Jaric, Deshawn Stevenson, Mo Pete, Des Mason, Jamaal Magloire, Q-Rich, Hedo and Etan Thomas would all give us some decent depth (non-lotto picks). For the lotto, Przy, Jamal Crawford, Mike Miller could help us.

Each year there are a couple of dozen quality players in the draft. Maybe you're not getting hall-of-fame talent, but if you just get decent talent for cheap you can stockpile assets and use them later. Maybe even get some buried treasure in the form of a Rondo or Ginobili.
 
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Jan Vasely is an interesting prospect. Very explosive at 6'11" 240 lbs. Compared to AK47 but I'm not sure how you can compare the two, Jan has the size of a center.
 

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