NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2 (Merged)

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FYI, Jason Quick is going to be on the BFT today to drop some draft tidbits.
 
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FYI, Jason Quick is going to be on the BFT today to drop some draft tidbits.

JQuick says the team is going back to the old ways. He still misses KP it's very obvious. If the old ways means getting big time players like Pippen, sign me up.
 
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Quick is useless when it comes to the draft.

Paul Allen is the anti-Mark Cuban.
 
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John Gambadoro Gambo620

Suns and Warriors have discussed trade scenarios in which Robin Lopez goes to Golden State and 11th pick plus Udoh ends up with Phoenix

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John Gambadoro Gambo620

Suns and Warriors have discussed trade scenarios in which Robin Lopez goes to Golden State and 11th pick plus Udoh ends up with Phoenix

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lol, that's horrendously bad for GS. Udoh on his own is just as good. And 11? Not buying that one.
 
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Maybe if PHX throws in their 13th pick. But even that doesn't make sense. Udoh is a far better prospect than Lopez or anyone available at 11 or 13.
 
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Probballdraft

Cavs entertaining deals for JJ Hickson. Reported trade by @RicBucher not accurate. @Cavs asking for 1st in '11 & '12. CHA/NJ/PHO in on it.
 
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Ken Berger:


• Faried also is on the Trail Blazers’ wish list at No. 21, but the Blazers also are said to be high on Marshon Brooks.
 
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I wouldnt mind Brooks.

You might change your tune after reading this snippet from John Hollinger's "Draft Rater" column he released this afternoon.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...lumnist=hollinger_john&page=draftrater-110620
(Insider Only)
Guards who don't make the cut
Probably the most suspect candidate, according to Draft Rater, is Marshon Brooks; his 7.88 rating was 27th among perimeter players. The Providence guard put up huge stats, but his average is hugely padded by two factors: First, the Friars played the fastest pace of any major Division I team; second, Brooks played nearly every minute of every game, averaging 36.5 per game -- remember, they play only 40 in college. Let all the air out and his numbers look a lot more ordinary -- his usage rate, which is his most alluring stat, ranks only ninth among prospects. Given his age (22 and five months) and his relative inefficiency, I'm not sure there's a ton to see here. Draft Rater sees him as a second rounder.
 
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If were picking at 21 that doesnt really concern me. I think Brooks is going to be like a Nick Young type. Not really good, but instant offense type. Not bad for pick 21 in a historically weak draft.
 
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Who does he like?

I don't think Hollinger has any personal feelings about any of them, but his system seems to suggest that guys like Irving, Leonard, and Kemba, plus Euors Miroitic [sic] and Valanciunas [sic] could end up being productive or even really good.

Here's how his rater would rank the prospects draft order.

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Tristan Thompson
4. Jonas Valanciunas
5. Kawhi Leonard
6. Enes Kanter
7. Kemba Walker
8. Tobias Harris
9. Alec Burks
10. Jordan Hamilton
11. Bismack Biyombo
12. Brandon Knight
13. Tyler Honeycutt
14. Jon Leuer
15. Nikola Vucevic
16. Chris Singleton
17. Jan Vesely
18. Klay Thompson
19. Norris Cole
20. Iman Shumpert
21. Nikola Mirotic
22. Jimmer Fredette
23. Donatas Motiejunas
24. Greg Smith
25. Marcus Morris
26. JaJuan Johnson
27. Markieff Morris
28. Davis Bertans
29. Kenneth Faried
30. Jeremy Tyler

31. Jordan Williams
32. Bojan Bogdanovic
33. Darius Morris
34. Giorgi Shermadini
35. Reggie Jackson
36. Rick Jackson
37. Brad Wanamaker
38. Damian Saunders
39. Nolan Smith
40. Malcolm Thomas
41. Travis Leslie
42. Trey Thompkins
43. Malcolm Lee
44. Charles Jenkins
45. Cory Joseph
46. E'Twaun Moore
47. Josh Selby
48. Jacob Pullen
49. Justin Harper
50. Jimmy Butler
51. Matt Howard
52. Jamie Skeen
53. Jereme Richmond
54. Keith Benson
55. D.J. Kennedy
56. Marshon Brooks
57. Isaiah Thomas
58. Andrew Goudelouck
59. Lavoy Allen
60. Shelvin Mack
 
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DXpress:

JG: I think the guy who is the number one sleeper in this draft is Nikola Mirotic. He's got no chance of being drafted in the top 20 because of his buy-out situation, but if you're ranking purely on just talent, I would say that he should be a top-10 pick. That's my opinion.
 
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Updated mocks tonight:

DXpress: Kenneth Faried

NBAdraft.net: Bismack Biyombo
 
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I'm not sure POR wants Vucevic in the 1st place...
 
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Looks like Houston is seriously considering Faried at #14.

:-/
 
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I don't think Hollinger has any personal feelings about any of them, but his system seems to suggest that guys like Irving, Leonard, and Kemba, plus Euors Miroitic [sic] and Valanciunas [sic] could end up being productive or even really good.

Here's how his rater would rank the prospects draft order.

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams
3. Tristan Thompson
4. Jonas Valanciunas
5. Kawhi Leonard
6. Enes Kanter
7. Kemba Walker
8. Tobias Harris
9. Alec Burks
10. Jordan Hamilton
11. Bismack Biyombo
12. Brandon Knight
13. Tyler Honeycutt
14. Jon Leuer
15. Nikola Vucevic
16. Chris Singleton
17. Jan Vesely
18. Klay Thompson
19. Norris Cole
20. Iman Shumpert
21. Nikola Mirotic
22. Jimmer Fredette
23. Donatas Motiejunas
24. Greg Smith
25. Marcus Morris
26. JaJuan Johnson
27. Markieff Morris
28. Davis Bertans
29. Kenneth Faried
30. Jeremy Tyler

31. Jordan Williams
32. Bojan Bogdanovic
33. Darius Morris
34. Giorgi Shermadini
35. Reggie Jackson
36. Rick Jackson
37. Brad Wanamaker
38. Damian Saunders
39. Nolan Smith
40. Malcolm Thomas
41. Travis Leslie
42. Trey Thompkins
43. Malcolm Lee
44. Charles Jenkins
45. Cory Joseph
46. E'Twaun Moore
47. Josh Selby
48. Jacob Pullen
49. Justin Harper
50. Jimmy Butler
51. Matt Howard
52. Jamie Skeen
53. Jereme Richmond
54. Keith Benson
55. D.J. Kennedy
56. Marshon Brooks
57. Isaiah Thomas
58. Andrew Goudelouck
59. Lavoy Allen
60. Shelvin Mack

cool thanks, i dont have insider, but i checked his ratings for last year and he was a little off (babbitt #8) but overall, it basically mirrors the general consensus.
 
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I love watching the rebroadcast of old drafts on NBATV. It's tough to see writers and analysts whose opinion I actually respect be completely wrong about a players potential. They were saying Kwame Brown was the next Hakeem and Adam Morrison the next Chris Mullin. Darko will be dominant in the post..... haha! Sorry, but I can't remember the last time I was this "NOT EXCITED" about an NBA draft.
 
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Probballdraft

As it stands expect the @WashWizards to trade up w/ the @Utah_Jazz or @Cavs to take Enes Kanter. Per a source Wiz have him #2 on their board
 
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I love watching the rebroadcast of old drafts on NBATV. It's tough to see writers and analysts whose opinion I actually respect be completely wrong about a players potential. They were saying Kwame Brown was the next Hakeem and Adam Morrison the next Chris Mullin. Darko will be dominant in the post..... haha! Sorry, but I can't remember the last time I was this "NOT EXCITED" about an NBA draft.

haha i was just watching the 2007 draft and they are talking about kobe wanting to leave the lakers...kobe wanted to deal odom and bynum for j oneal! fuck that would have been awesome
 
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Here's how his rater would rank the prospects draft order...

Comparing his rater to DX's mock, Greg Smith and Jon Leuer are the most underrated prospects (projected to be drafted over 30 spots lower than their rating suggests), and Tobias Harris will be BPA at 21 (rated 8, projected to go 22). Marshon Brooks (rated 56, projected 15) is by far the most overrated; Jimmer Fredette and Marcus Morris were the most overrated among projected lottery picks.
 
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GeryWoelfel

Bucks are open to moving No.10 and have had several discussions. As of now, though, they intend to keep the pick.
 
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WojYahooNBA

Y! Sources: San Antonio's engaged in trade talks centering on Tony Parker to move into Thursday's draft lottery:
 
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Isn't Enes Kanter just obviously the white Al Jefferson?

Actually, anyone remember the Ukraine Train? He kind of reminds me of him.
 
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Isn't Enes Kanter just obviously the white Al Jefferson?

Actually, anyone remember the Ukraine Train? He kind of reminds me of him.

He's probably a bigger Carlos Boozer at his peak. His basement is Vitaly Potapenko.
 

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