Event NBA Draft: Would you trade #20 for #24 and #30?

[Wizard Mentor]

How about #15 for #24 and #30?

If this is a deep draft, I trade #20 for Utah's 2 picks, but not #15.

 

[Reep]

Maybe, but only in a draft day deal where the player I wanted at 20 would be available at 24 or 30, then I might use the extra pick to part with a large contract. I would NOT want to keep four first round picks.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

I said no. I hope we don't use all three for players but instead try to couple them with other players to attempt to lower overall salary cap situation AND get better player.

More doesn't equal better! Just take BPA at all spots.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

With Ezeli gone, we have 14 players, 17 spots.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Only if we can parlay them into a proven player. We are already the youngest team in the league. We don't need FOUR rookies next season. Even three is a bit much, but with the rosters expanding to 17, I'm fine with that many, as long as at least one of them can make a contribution his rookie year.

BNM

 

[lawai'a]

all depends on who is available at 20, you make the offer dependent on that stipulation. no to 15, there appears to be the increased likelihood of getting an impactful rotation players that drop from lottery selections in this draft at 15 as opposed to 20. would rather one of the picks be moved with a player for future assets/1st rounders

 

[Boob-No-More]

With Ezeli gone, we have 14 players, 17 spots.

Yep, and all first round picks get guaranteed contracts. We'd have to also cut Quarterman, but that's not really a big deal.

Still, if we did make a 1 for 2 draft pick swap, I'd hope it was with the goal of making another move. At this point, we need quality over quantity. Drafting 3 players with the hope that 1 or 2 pan out is OK. With four, it just seems like at least a couple of them would be getting in each other's way for a very limited number of development minutes. I know it will be easier to send players down to the G League, but at some point, you need to play with the big boys to see if you've got what it takes.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

This team needs better basketball players, not more basketball players.

 

[Minstrel]

This team needs mo' better basketball players.

 

[Trackjack]

I don't think we need 3 1st round draft picks. What I would do if we can't move up trade like the 26th pick for a future 1st by a team that don't have draft pick and maybe unload someone on the roster. That pick has to be not proctected.

 

[BonesJones]

You do this in a heartbeat. You could attach 30 to Crabbe and 24 to Turner and get rid of both.

You can't get rid of both with 20.

 

[Sarni]

You do this in a heartbeat. You could attach 30 to Crabbe and 24 to Turner and get rid of both.

You can't get rid of both with 20.

So you end up without two young players, and without two experienced players that you already have, in order to create cap space to do absolutely nothing with it.

So instead of potentially having Harry Giles and Bam Adebayo (for instance), plus Crabbe and Turner, you end up having zero.

 

[BonesJones]

So you end up without two young players, and without two experienced players that you already have, in order to create cap space to do absolutely nothing with it.

So instead of potentially having Harry Giles and Bam Adebayo (for instance), plus Crabbe and Turner, you end up having zero.

Why the hell would we do nothing with cap space?

Justin Jackson is as good as both of them.

Bam is trash to me. Undersized PF with no skills. Could still possibly get Giles at 26, so if the question is Jackson, Giles, and cap space, I take that over Jackson, Giles, Bam, ET, and Crabbe.

 

[Sarni]

Why the hell would we do nothing with cap space?

Justin Jackson is as good as both of them.

Bam is trash to me. Undersized PF with no skills. Could still possibly get Giles at 26, so if the question is Jackson, Giles, and cap space, I take that over Jackson, Giles, Bam, ET, and Crabbe.

Because even if we let Turner and Crabbe go, we are still left with close to nothing in our cap space. Our current bill for 2017 is $137M, you remove Crabbe and Turner and you are still paying almost $100M to your current players. CJ and Dame alone make $53M. Then you have Moe at $10M, Meyers at $10M, Aminu at $7M, Davis at $6M. Cap space will probably be $105M or so, even if you let Ezeli go (we will), we will at best have around $15M of cap space left in the end. It won't be enough to sign one of the top free agent players (and I am not taking Hayward or Griffin here but merely the likes of Ibaka and Waiters). You gain nothing.

I think teams would also take Crabbe from us without us attaching a pick. Dare I say I would expect someone crap to offer small assets in return. I think what is doable is trading Crabbe to Philadelphia for #36 pick. They won't get at shooter they need with their pick, have lots of cap space with hardly anyone to use it on and could do with a decent shooter. As for Turner, if Boston were not likely to land a big time free agent I could maybe see them offering one of their second round picks for him as they liked him a lot. It won't happen though.

I reckon we will trade Aminu and Davis for a pair of second round picks and call it a day.

I wouldn't mind if we were playing Anonuby, Hartenstein and Leaf a lot next season.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

This team needs better basketball players, not more basketball players.

It's a classic 2-for-1, with 33 seconds left, you take 2 shots instead of 1 shot.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It's a classic 2-for-1, with 33 seconds left, you take 2 shots instead of 1 shot.

Yes, the classic 2 for 1. You get up a shitty shot so you leave enough time, then a shitty shot as the clock winds down.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Yes, the classic 2 for 1. You get up a shitty shot so you leave enough time, then a shitty shot as the clock winds down.

Regardless of your OR MY feelings, the stats say that the 2 for 1 yields more points than 1 "good shoot"

 

[Mediocre Man]

Regardless of your OR MY feelings, the stats say that the 2 for 1 yields more points than 1 "good shoot"

I know, I still cringe

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

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I reckon we will trade Aminu and Davis for a pair of second round picks and call it a day.

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I would be really surprised if that happened.

 

[BonesJones]

Because even if we let Turner and Crabbe go, we are still left with close to nothing in our cap space. Our current bill for 2017 is $137M, you remove Crabbe and Turner and you are still paying almost $100M to your current players. CJ and Dame alone make $53M. Then you have Moe at $10M, Meyers at $10M, Aminu at $7M, Davis at $6M. Cap space will probably be $105M or so, even if you let Ezeli go (we will), we will at best have around $15M of cap space left in the end. It won't be enough to sign one of the top free agent players (and I am not taking Hayward or Griffin here but merely the likes of Ibaka and Waiters). You gain nothing.

I think teams would also take Crabbe from us without us attaching a pick. Dare I say I would expect someone crap to offer small assets in return. I think what is doable is trading Crabbe to Philadelphia for #36 pick. They won't get at shooter they need with their pick, have lots of cap space with hardly anyone to use it on and could do with a decent shooter. As for Turner, if Boston were not likely to land a big time free agent I could maybe see them offering one of their second round picks for him as they liked him a lot. It won't happen though.

I reckon we will trade Aminu and Davis for a pair of second round picks and call it a day.

I wouldn't mind if we were playing Anonuby, Hartenstein and Leaf a lot next season.

Our bill is $135M, so getting rid of them gives us $5M, getting rid of Davis and Aminu gives us $18M

 

[Sarni]

I would be really surprised if that happened.

I think we need to reduce salary somehow and getting minor assets back would be nice return.

 

[Destroyer of Worlds]

Because even if we let Turner and Crabbe go, we are still left with close to nothing in our cap space. Our current bill for 2017 is $137M, you remove Crabbe and Turner and you are still paying almost $100M to your current players. CJ and Dame alone make $53M. Then you have Moe at $10M, Meyers at $10M, Aminu at $7M, Davis at $6M. Cap space will probably be $105M or so, even if you let Ezeli go (we will), we will at best have around $15M of cap space left in the end. It won't be enough to sign one of the top free agent players (and I am not taking Hayward or Griffin here but merely the likes of Ibaka and Waiters). You gain nothing.

I think teams would also take Crabbe from us without us attaching a pick. Dare I say I would expect someone crap to offer small assets in return. I think what is doable is trading Crabbe to Philadelphia for #36 pick. They won't get at shooter they need with their pick, have lots of cap space with hardly anyone to use it on and could do with a decent shooter. As for Turner, if Boston were not likely to land a big time free agent I could maybe see them offering one of their second round picks for him as they liked him a lot. It won't happen though.

I reckon we will trade Aminu and Davis for a pair of second round picks and call it a day.

I wouldn't mind if we were playing Anonuby, Hartenstein and Leaf a lot next season.

I hope we do this. Absolutely no way we need to get rid of ET. This was his first year with this team and *usually* it takes people time adapt. He also has a very unique skillset that is irreplaceable honestly and provides a ball handler and legit defender and HIGH iq. If you listen to interviews they say he was the one yelling out everyone's plays because he watched so much film.

It depends who is available honestly in regards to the trade. People will inevitably drop and rise.

 

[BigGameDamian]

This team needs more veteran proven basketball players not more rookie basketball players that show potential.

 

[Sarni]

This team needs more veteran proven basketball players not more rookie basketball players that show potential.

Do you think that with a couple of average older players (we are not going to get anyone great with current assets) we could start challenging Warriors and Cavs now?