NBA GM Draft Discussion

[DynastYWarrioR6]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 10 2008, 05:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I might not be here for my pick tomorrow but I left a list with ZAE</div>

but not me?!

 

[dino33]

i picked Bargnani and PMed ZAE

 

[Denny Crane]

Looking for a better pick this round. If you're willing to trade down, I will make it worthwhile.

PM me if you're interested.

 

[ZAE]

Sorry for the hold up, I'm not home. I'm very happy with Przybilla, I was considering him in the 4th round.

 

[Denny Crane]

I like the Przybilla pick. Going forward, he may not get much PT if Oden is healthy. That's the only reason I didn't pick him myself

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Whoever keeps updating the selection thread seriously needs to learn to tell time (looks at Zae, AGAIN).

Real should have until 9:35 PM EST for his 2 picks that are on the clock right now.

 

[zєяσ]

Who is up?

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Aug 10 2008, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who is up?</div>

Real.

 

[lukewarmplay]

Doesn't matter- it's not like GK's around anyway. Draft will probably resume tomorrow morning.

 

[danxcr]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 9 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>did you know Rudy Fernandez is also a famous Filipino actor?

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i didnt kno that... and im filipino

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Aug 10 2008, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 9 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>did you know Rudy Fernandez is also a famous Filipino actor?

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i didnt kno that... and im filipino

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He's on my Filipino media fantasy team!

 

[Real]

Sorry to keep everyone waiting but I have something in the works.

 

[danxcr]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 10 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Aug 10 2008, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 9 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>did you know Rudy Fernandez is also a famous Filipino actor?

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i didnt kno that... and im filipino

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He's on my Filipino media fantasy team!
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hey... manny pacquiao would be on my list... with kris akino ^^ lol...

 

[Kid Chocolate]

So Real gets skipped, and since you automatically get skipped if you have an outstanding pick, it goes to GK6 I believe.

 

[DynastYWarrioR6]

Real is here in the forums though

 

[Real]

PG-Deron Williams
SG-Josh Howard
SF-Jason Kapono
PF-Kevin Love
C-Mehmet Okur
Bench: Sam Cassell, Ryan Gomes (or Love)

Sam Cassell is a one year temporary solution.

Ryan Gomes I think is a nice piece to have off the bench, or to start at PF until Kevin Love is ready.

 

[GrandKenyon6]

Go Harp

 

[GMJ]

I don't like Josh Howard at SG. You and Pegs should trade him for Joe Johnson straight up.

 

[kk30]

I actually offered pegs, Josh Howard and my 10th for Joe Johnson and Peg's 12th. Pegs said "not even close". But than I really lucked out and got Pierce and a 7th for Love and Howard. I knew you guys didn't like Howard as an Sg so I got a real SG.

Right now my team is a lot like the real Celtic's big three except younger.

PG- Bibby
SG- Pierce
SF- G.Wallace
PF- Amare

 

[danxcr]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 10 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually offered pegs, Josh Howard and my 10th for Joe Johnson and Peg's 12th. Pegs said "not even close". But than I really lucked out and got Pierce and a 7th for Love and Howard. I knew you guys didn't like Howard as an Sg so I got a real SG.

Right now my team is a lot like the real Celtic's big three except younger.

PG- Bibby
SG- Pierce
SF- G.Wallace
PF- Amare</div>

hmm well ur team is solid but wallace isnt like ray allen... he isnt a spot up shooter or a quick catch and shoot guy... more of a slasher... and amare isnt like KG... he doesnt post up... he has a 18ft jumper but likes to DUNK IT on people

 

[CelticKing]

I'll check in later to see if its my turn.

Will watch the olympics for a while.

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 10 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I actually offered pegs, Josh Howard and my 10th for Joe Johnson and Peg's 12th. Pegs said "not even close". But than I really lucked out and got Pierce and a 7th for Love and Howard. I knew you guys didn't like Howard as an Sg so I got a real SG.

Right now my team is a lot like the real Celtic's big three except younger.

PG- Bibby
SG- Pierce
SF- G.Wallace
PF- Amare</div>

In a sense, Amare's only half the player KG is, but with Wallace instead of Allen, Amare's defensive liabilities are less important and his superior ability to step up in important moments is more important.

 

[GMJ]

Amare's defensive liabilities!?

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Aug 10 2008, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Amare's defensive liabilities!?</div>

No?

 

[GMJ]

He's a terrific shotblocker, and his athleticism makes him tough to shoot over on the low block.

 

[kk30]

Am I the only person who paid attention while Amare averaged 29/10/2 in the final 2 months of the season?

About Amare's defense its really not bad he just takes a lot of heat since it could be better based on his athleticism. Hes a good shot blocker and actually averaged 2.1 blocks, the same as Dwight Howard.

Hes a very good rebounder also.

Hes not a dominate defender but hes not bad and he more than makes up with it with his offense.

 

[kk30]

Look where he is playing...The whole team plays below average defense therefore players look like defensive liabilities, i.e. Amare. Have you ever watched a D'Antoni interview when asked about defense? He deflects the question or answers it with a statement about offense. You can't blame Amare for poor team defense.

(Steve Nash and Mike D'ntoni are not defensive minded, Shaq is too old and slow to help much, and Leondro Barbosa and Raja Bell only work the perimeter)

 

[lukewarmplay]

Come on, you guys know that blocks and rebounds don't measure a player's defense. Positioning, poorly timed fouls, performances by the the players he guards do. I'm trying to figure out a way to sort by season highs for big men and see how many come against the Suns- which, granted, won't tell you much, but maybe more than number of blocks.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lukewarmplay @ Aug 10 2008, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Come on, you guys know that blocks and rebounds don't measure a player's defense. Positioning, poorly timed fouls, performances by the the players he guards do.</div>

definitely agree

 

[lukewarmplay]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 10 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Look where he is playing...The whole team plays below average defense therefore players look like defensive liabilities, i.e. Amare. Have you ever watched a D'Antoni interview when asked about defense? He deflects the question or answers it with a statement about offense. You can't blame Amare for poor team defense.

(Steve Nash and Mike D'ntoni are not defensive minded, Shaq is too old and slow to help much, and Leondro Barbosa and Raja Bell only work the perimeter)</div>

You realize this argument has serious flaws, don't you? First off, you talk about the team and Amare as if they're entirely separate entities. Also, the fact that there are other defensive liabilities on the roster doesn't say anything one way or the other about him specifically. And Shaq's arrival pushed him to pf, where he's supposed to be better.

Edit: Just looking through some box scores- he actually is better once he moves to the 4, in terms of opponents' performances. Not great, but much better. But, still, the point was that he's worse than Garnett. Which I assume he don't have to argue about?