NBA GMs vote Aldridge as the game's best PF (in a tie with Blake Griffin)

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RoyToy said:
This forum can't keep it's bullshit/homer opinions in line and it makes this forum a hard place to get some real discussion going.
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Well then, if that's the way you feel, perhaps you'd be happier posting elsewhere.

Funny though, how those bullshit/homer opinions line up with the opinions of NBA GM's and yours don't...

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Well then, if that's the way you feel, perhaps you'd be happier posting elsewhere.

Funny though, how those bullshit/homer opinions line up with the opinions of NBA GM's and yours don't...

BNM
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Ohhhhh buuuuuurrrrrn!!!
 
I'm in the Davis camp just because he makes the game easy for himself and plays the two way game better than Aldridge IMHO. I love LA but he takes a lot of shots that aren't what I'd call high percentage looks but he does nail them a decent clip which is why he is my number 2. Also, it took 8 seasons for Aldridge to average double figures in rebounding, Davis did it in his second... Davis also blocked ~3 shots a game last year, got decent steal numbers for a big man and only fouled averaged 3 fouls per game while being so aggressive. However, he does need to bulk up but look at LA when he was 21 and they aren't so different in the body dept (LA might've been thinner even).
 
RoyToy said:
So I just read a whole lot of elementary analysis

The Blazers hadn't made the playoffs in a couple years. That entire time people on here were arguing that Aldridge was the best PF, yet the Blazers weren't even in the playoffs.

So the second his team makes the playoffs, all of the sudden we use the playoff card now? Am I reading that right?

The Blazers won 33 games in the 2012-2013 season. I'm assuming Aldridge was still awesome and the same player then?

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No. He wasn't. Last year's Aldridge was MUCH improved from 2012-13 Aldridge. A simple look at stats could show you that. Two more points a game, two more rebounds a game. But also- last year wasn't Aldridge's first time in the playoffs. He has gone to the playoffs FOUR times. Davis has yet to show that he can deliver in big games. Has he ever scored 40+ in back to back wins on the road? Once he shows that, he will be on Aldridge's level.
 
KingSpeed said:
No. He wasn't. Last year's Aldridge was MUCH improved from 2012-13 Aldridge. A simple look at stats could show you that. Two more points a game, two more rebounds a game. But also- last year wasn't Aldridge's first time in the playoffs. He has gone to the playoffs FOUR times. Davis has yet to show that he can deliver in big games. Has he ever scored 40+ in back to back wins on the road? Once he shows that, he will be on Aldridge's level.
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Aldridge was much less efficient last year. Basically he took more shots with a much lower FG%. It's not a great trade off.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I'm in the Davis camp just because he makes the game easy for himself and plays the two way game better than Aldridge IMHO. I love LA but he takes a lot of shots that aren't what I'd call high percentage looks but he does nail them a decent clip which is why he is my number 2. Also, it took 8 seasons for Aldridge to average double figures in rebounding, Davis did it in his second... Davis also blocked ~3 shots a game last year, got decent steal numbers for a big man and only fouled averaged 3 fouls per game while being so aggressive. However, he does need to bulk up but look at LA when he was 21 and they aren't so different in the body dept.
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There is no question that 2nd year Davis was better than 2nd year Aldridge but Davis isn't close to this year's Aldridge.
 
RoyToy said:
Find your own link. I know for a fact he's been debated as the best PF in the league on this forum for 2-3 years.
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Nah I'll just file your banter as bullshit like it always is. You claimed people said this, which I say is false. The burden of proof is on you to support your claim.
 
RoyToy said:
Aldridge was much less efficient last year. Basically he took more shots with a much lower FG%. It's not a great trade off.
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54 wins
Back to back 40+ in wins of the road
3 time All Star (Davis was an injury replacement)
Third Team All NBA

Davis has done none of this.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Flawed premise == erroneous conclusion.

This is not about what fans think. They are USUALLY (but obviously, not always) going to favor the players on their team. Read the title of the thread. Aldridge was voted best PF in the league by NBA general managers. Feel free to continue to condescend to the fans of the team all you like, it does nothing to change the opinions of the GMs who get paid big bucks to build NBA rosters. Those GMs, not the fans, voted Aldridge, not Anthony Davis, the best power forward in the league.

And yes, it took Aldridge proving he could perform in the post season to convince those GMs he is now the best power forward in the game. Maybe once Anthony Davis does the same, they'll vote for him.

BNM
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You mean that poll where Aldridge was 3.6% points higher than Davis?

Then there's still this from the GM poll

If you were starting a franchise today and could sign any player in the NBA, who would it be?
1. LeBron James, Cleveland -- 50.0%
2. Anthony Davis, New Orleans -- 25.0%
Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City -- 25.0%
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Tied with KEVIN DURANT

The homers here can try and fight to fight this off, but Davis is at least on par with Aldridge right now, and there's no doubt Davis will be the better player going forward.

Sorry.
 
magnifier661 said:
Nah I'll just file your banter as bullshit like it always is. You claimed people said this, which I say is false. The burden of proof is on you to support your claim.
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RoyToy still believes we lost to Houston, I think. He appears to be a Roy fan but Roy never delivered us to second round as number 1 option. No back to back 40+ games on the road.

By the way, I believe Aldridge had the most 20/20 games last season.

Also, Steph Curry said Aldridge was the third best player in the NBA last season.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I'm in the Davis camp just because he makes the game easy for himself and plays the two way game better than Aldridge IMHO. I love LA but he takes a lot of shots that aren't what I'd call high percentage looks but he does nail them a decent clip which is why he is my number 2. Also, it took 8 seasons for Aldridge to average double figures in rebounding, Davis did it in his second... Davis also blocked ~3 shots a game last year, got decent steal numbers for a big man and only fouled averaged 3 fouls per game while being so aggressive. However, he does need to bulk up but look at LA when he was 21 and they aren't so different in the body dept (LA might've been thinner even).
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This isn't a vote for who "will be" the best power forward. It's a vote of "who is" meaning right now, who is the best PF i. The game.
 
KingSpeed said:
There is no question that 2nd year Davis was better than 2nd year Aldridge but Davis isn't close to this year's Aldridge.
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Isn't close? Ehhh. Statistically they're pretty close and basing off the average NBA players 3rd year jump... Davis is gonna be crazy good (barring injury of course).
 
KingSpeed said:
There is no question that 2nd year Davis was better than 2nd year Aldridge but Davis isn't close to this year's Aldridge.
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PER

Davis - 26.5
Aldridge - 21.8

WS

Davis - 10.4
Aldridge - 7.5

Davis is already there. Sorry.
 
RoyToy said:
You mean that poll where Aldridge was 3.6% points higher than Davis?

Then there's still this from the GM poll



Tied with KEVIN DURANT

The homers here can try and fight to fight this off, but Davis is at least on par with Aldridge right now, and there's no doubt Davis will be the better player going forward.

Sorry.
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Um yeah because Davis has more years, more upside and so on. But those same GMs say "aldridge is best right now". Something you keep ignoring.
 
RoyToy said:
Blake Griffin is better than Aldridge anyways

But yes, Anthony Davis owns the PF position right now and will continue to do so for the next 10 years
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I don't believe any of this.

First of all, Blake has some work to do on his game before he get's to LA's level. One his low post game and two his permieter game. He's great in the open court. But def he isn't there yet.

I look at Davis as more of a 5.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Isn't close? Ehhh. Statistically they're pretty close and basing off the average NBA players 3rd year jump... Davis is gonna be crazy good (barring injury of course).
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I think you and Roytoy are missing the OP. We aren't talking about what will happen. We are talking about what is happening now.

And Davis is not even close to as good as Aldridge is now. End of story...

Start another thread and talk about "who will be the best PF 3 years from now" and the forum would probably agree with you
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I don't believe any of this.

First of all, Blake has some work to do on his game before he get's to LA's level. One his low post game and two his permieter game. He's great in the open court. But def he isn't there yet.

I look at Davis as more of a 5.
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Griffin was tied in the GM poll as best PF in the NBA

The GM poll means everything (only because Aldridge is #1 though). If he was #3 I'm sure the poll would be discredited around here.
 
magnifier661 said:
I think you and Roytoy are missing the OP. We aren't talking about what will happen. We are talking about what is happening now.

And Davis is not even close to as good as Aldridge is now. End of story...

Start another thread and talk about "who will be the best PF 3 years from now" and the forum would probably agree with you
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SlyPokerDog sucks
 
RoyToy said:
Griffin was tied in the GM poll as best PF in the NBA

The GM poll means everything (only because Aldridge is #1 though). If he was #3 I'm sure the poll would be discredited around here.
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We know your game Roytoy. A couple years ago, you talked about how Aldridge is a great PF, etc. that's because the majority didn't think this way. Now that the fan base agrees Aldridge is the best, you have to say no.

You just want to disagree with the forum. Your posting style and tactics are weak ass dog shit
 
magnifier661 said:
I think you and Roytoy are missing the OP. We aren't talking about what will happen. We are talking about what is happening now.

And Davis is not even close to as good as Aldridge is now. End of story...

Start another thread and talk about "who will be the best PF 3 years from now" and the forum would probably agree with you
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To be fair though, I'm saying Davis' 3rd year. Which is in fact now.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Aldridge:

23.2 PPG / 11.1 RPG / 2.6 APG / 1 BPG / 0.9 SPG / .458 FG% / .822 FT%

Davis:

20.8 PPG / 10 RPG / 1.6 APG / 2.8 BPG / 1.3 SPG / .519 FG% / .791 FT %

It's certainly close.
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I think the problem here (as it usually is) is that 99% of the forum only watches and follows the Blazers. They're oblivious to what else is happening around the league.
 
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