NBA needs an age minimum? Do you agree?

[Natebishop3]

 

[TBpup]

I don't know about an age minimum but players shouldn't be able to do a 1-and-done in college. If you are going to go, go for at least 2 years. There are so few players that can really come into the NBA and contribute before 20 and the few that can don't offset the myriads that never develop. So maybe an minimum age so that there are guidelines for the foreign players as well.

 

[barfo]

It needs an age maximum a lot more.

barfo

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't know about an age minimum but players shouldn't be able to do a 1-and-done in college. If you are going to go, go for at least 2 years. There are so few players that can really come into the NBA and contribute before 20 and the few that can don't offset the myriads that never develop. So maybe an minimum age so that there are guidelines for the foreign players as well.

I think this might be more doable. Although it is still a long shot. One and done's are bad for both the NBA and College. But feom a legal standpoint......you will continues to have people sue over it.

 

[Chris Craig]

I don't know about an age minimum but players shouldn't be able to do a 1-and-done in college. If you are going to go, go for at least 2 years. There are so few players that can really come into the NBA and contribute before 20 and the few that can don't offset the myriads that never develop. So maybe an minimum age so that there are guidelines for the foreign players as well.

I agree going to one year of college is pretty much taking advantage of the system...the NBA took the first step by making the rule that you can't come straight out of high school anymore, now they need to take the next step. I think at least 2 years in college, ot two years on a professional international team for players coming from overseas, before your able to step foot in the NBA is a good direction. You got all these kids who think it's going to be easy, but the NBA is no joke. There is a high level of competition and a lot of pressure to succeed, not an environment for the inexperienced.

 

[Natebishop3]

Teams are still going to make stupid decisions. Most teams draft on potential. They want that superstar so they're going to draft a guy that they think might have a high ceiling. There's a reason why 4 year guys are usually undervalued. The NBA thinks they know that players ceiling, so they aren't as sexy. Do you think any of the scouts thought Dame would be a 2x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, and be one of the top 4 or 5 point guards in the league by his 4th season? They put these expectations on players, and scouts LOVE potential.

This is not a new problem. This has been going on for 20+ years. We had that huge string of busts from Europe in the early 2000s. I don't see any rules coming down to restrict shitty Euro players from coming over. Maybe they should have to come over and play one year of college ball before they can be drafted?

 

[Chris Craig]

Signing players that are too young and inexperienced is not only bad for teams ( teams get stuck with under achieving players who hurt chemistry and the win column) It also hurts the players themselves because they aren't ready, they under achieve, their potential is stunted, teams lose interest, and their careers are cut short.

 

[julius]

I agree there should be an age minimum, or if there isn't, the salaries should be lower and non guaranteed.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was incredibly bored with the draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if most of the international players all turn into glorified tomato cans.

 

[Chris Craig]

I agree there should be an age minimum, or if there isn't, the salaries should be lower and non guaranteed.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was incredibly bored with the draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if most of the international players all turn into glorified tomato cans.

I like that idea, lower non guaranteed contracts. Yeah we can probably count the players from the draft this year on one hand that will make something of themselves in the NBA

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If you're old enough to vote and serve your country you're old enough to play in the NBA.

 

[Natebishop3]

If you're old enough to vote and serve your country you're old enough to play in the NBA.

If you're not old enough to drink champagne, you're not old enough for the NBA.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I agree there should be an age minimum, or if there isn't, the salaries should be lower and non guaranteed.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was incredibly bored with the draft. I also wouldn't be surprised if most of the international players all turn into glorified tomato cans.

Right now the players and owners share the revenue earned, I see no reason for players to earn less.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's funny how many of you want to save owners from themselves. If they draft players that are too young or turn out to be busts then let them and they should pay for that mistake. Owners make mistakes and you want to let them walk away from that without paying the player is dumb.

 

[ripcityboy]

I've heard the NBA players union plans to challenge the one and done rule next labor deal. And they plan to take it as high as they can. People who are 18 and trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor cannot be barred from doing so in our country. Why should NBA players be? They have a point.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I've heard the NBA players union plans to challenge the one and done rule next labor deal. And they plan to take it as high as they can. People who are 18 and trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor cannot be barred from doing so in our country. Why should NBA players be? They have a point.

It's not fair to the billionaires that own NBA teams.

 

[julius]

I've heard the NBA players union plans to challenge the one and done rule next labor deal. And they plan to take it as high as they can. People who are 18 and trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor cannot be barred from doing so in our country. Why should NBA players be? They have a point.

then make their contracts non guaranteed like the rest of us who are trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor.

 

[Chris Craig]

It's funny how many of you want to save owners from themselves. If they draft players that are too young or turn out to be busts then let them and they should pay for that mistake. Owners make mistakes and you want to let them walk away from that without paying the player is dumb.

For me it's not about protecting the checkbooks of millionaire owners,its about the quality of the game. Seeing teams who have hoarded masses of talent destroy teams full of under achieving players who don't have the ability to compete is fucking boring.

 

[Chris Craig]

I've heard the NBA players union plans to challenge the one and done rule next labor deal. And they plan to take it as high as they can. People who are 18 and trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor cannot be barred from doing so in our country. Why should NBA players be? They have a point.

Because High school and first year college players are not trained sufficiently and aren't physically and mentally capable of handling the NBA

 

[TBpup]

then make their contracts non guaranteed like the rest of us who are trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor.

Brilliance is often expressed succinctly....well done.

 

[ripcityboy]

Because High school and first year college players are not trained sufficiently and aren't physically and mentally capable of handling the NBA

Very true. The NBA has nice deal going with NCAA mfiia. The kids in college shouldve been paid years ago.

 

[Trackjack]

Let them not change the rule. The way to correct it the owners should tell there GM not draft anyone that has less than 2 years of college. The college kids will get it after the first draft. Yes a lot kids would get screw out of there college elgibilty but they will learn. The owners are the employers everyone else is the employee. Don't worry about what the union wants it up to owners set there team guidelines not the union. Yea you can apply it don't mean the owners have to hire. Just like every other job in the world.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Let them not change the rule. The way to correct it the owners should tell there GM not draft anyone that has less than 2 years of college. The college kids will get it after the first draft. Yes a lot kids would get screw out of there college elgibilty but they will learn. The owners are the employers everyone else is the employee. Don't worry about what the union wants it up to owners set there team guidelines not the union. Yea you can apply it don't mean the owners have to hire. Just like every other job in the world.

I'm not a lawyer, but I have a gut feeling that the word you're describing is "collusion" ("an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage" - wiki).

Having owners negate a hard-won concession by the Union as part of the collectively-bargained Agreement through mutual decision seems to fit. Then again, one rogue and the whole thing comes down. How many owners do you get through before someone decides "F*** it, I'mma draft Ben Simmons no matter how old he is."

 

[ebott]

I completely disagree with the age limit. In fact, I think they should lower it to 16. You're talking about an industry where you're lucky to play past 30. Is it really so ridiculous to give these guys a little bit longer of a window where they can earn a living?

 

[Trackjack]

I'm not a lawyer, but I have a gut feeling that the word you're describing is "collusion" ("an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage" - wiki).

Having owners negate a hard-won concession by the Union as part of the collectively-bargained Agreement through mutual decision seems to fit. Then again, one rogue and the whole thing comes down. How many owners do you get through before someone decides "F*** it, I'mma draft Ben Simmons no matter how old he is."

Most owners will still draft young one 1 year college. But than don't complain when that player is a bust. To me it on the owners shoulder not no one else. Of course the union will cry about it even though it is best for the league and the young player. You don't get a Simmons that quit on his college team mate like he did and I believe drop out college after the season. If dont want go to college do it some other way by going over seas or play in the d-league.

 

[Trackjack]

I completely disagree with the age limit. In fact, I think they should lower it to 16. You're talking about an industry where you're lucky to play past 30. Is it really so ridiculous to give these guys a little bit longer of a window where they can earn a living?

Really so you think a 16 year old kid is muture enough physically and mentally to play in the NBA.

 

[jlprk]

I've heard the NBA players union plans to challenge the one and done rule next labor deal. And they plan to take it as high as they can. People who are 18 and trained sufficiently or physically able to do skilled labor cannot be barred from doing so in our country. Why should NBA players be? They have a point.

Because High school and first year college players are not trained sufficiently and aren't physically and mentally capable of handling the NBA

Working teens make minimum wage. What's the national rate, $7.50 or something. A teenage basketball star should have a choice of a college scholarship, or an NBA job at $7.50 per hour. That'll have the same effect as an age rule. And we'll solve the leave raker shortage.

 

[jlprk]

Anyone notice I should have typed leaf raker shortage? I thought not. So I won't edit that jewel.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Absolutely not. I'm with @ebott, I wouldn't mind if they lowered it to 16.

 

[riverman]

If teens want to get into the NBA they should be required to play a couple years in the D league first...they don't pay much

 

[ripcityboy]

Working teens make minimum wage. What's the national rate, $7.50 or something. A teenage basketball star should have a choice of a college scholarship, or an NBA job at $7.50 per hour. That'll have the same effect as an age rule. And we'll solve the leave raker shortage.

Working 7.50 per hour to do something I love with my friends wouldn't be terrible. Even if it was supplemental income.... the people you work makes or breaks it anyway.