OT NBA season suspended & NCAA cancelling all sports for coronavirus

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Chris Craig]

A 21.8% positive test rate? The highest positive test rate with the lowest amount of tests. That's not good. Though I suppose the percentage would go down with more tests.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

A 21.8% positive test rate? The highest positive test rate with the lowest amount of tests. That's not good. Though I suppose the percentage would go down with more tests.

We're only testing the sickest.

 

[AldoTrapani]

Wow minimum 30 days? This is unprecedented. So does that mean next time we play we possibly have Zach and Nurk back?

 

[Chris Craig]

Fast and the Furious 9 pushed back a year because of coronavirus

 

[Chris Craig]

Wow minimum 30 days? This is unprecedented. So does that mean next time we play we possibly have Zach and Nurk back?

At least Nurkic

 

[JoshuaHall]

well, I did say I didn't believe you meant it that way so relax

but you said:

"the youngest person to die in Italy was 55 with chronic issues.

let’s not act like the mortality rate is the same across the board

odds are, for most people, it’s the flu."

and followed it up by saying:

"the mortality rate for old people is FAR greater than that of younger people.

in fact, if you remove the mortality rate from older people and look at the mortality rate for younger people, it’s not that bad (in comparison to other things)!! Can’t stress that enough."

The mortality rates for flu hover around 0.1%. That number includes people over 65 who have a much higher mortality rate. About 60% of deaths from flu are people over 65. That has to mean the mortality rates for people under 60 have to be well below 0.1%....likely in the 0.01-o.03% range. TBpup posted a breakdown of C-19 that said people in their 50's have a 1.3% mortality rate. People in the 40's have a 0.4% rate, and people 39 and younger have a 0.2% rate. So it easily could be that the mortality rate from covid-19 for people under 40 is 10-30 times higher than for the flu. So the flu comparisons seem way out of wack, at least as far as death rates go. It might be that the multiple of mortality rates C-19 has over the flu bt age bracket are relatively equivalent. I just haven't found flu mortality numbers broken down by age group yet

so no, it's almost certainly not the case that "odds are, for most people, it’s the flu"

For 99% of people in the above categories, based on the bold, it’s the flu.

If you honestly live your life afraid of things that are 1% or 2% (or less) likely to happen...

well that’s probably not a very fun time.

Especially if you’re near the San Andreas fault...

Or ever drive a car.

Or fly.

Or walk outside.

So, I stand by my statement, for 99% of people in those age brackets, it’s a bad flu.

 

[illmatic99]

how can they have 472 tests but 1300 positive cases?

 

[JoshuaHall]

We're only testing the sickest.

Couple buddies work in healthcare in and around PDX

“We are only testing patients who exhibit symptoms AND are having respiratory issues; otherwise discharged.”

(Just confirming that I’ve heard the same.)

Also heard people were faking sick to steal masks so they had to lock them up, lol.

 

[illmatic99]

it's the not the fucking flu. wish people would stop repeating that

 

[AldoTrapani]

At least Nurkic

oh man if Zach isn’t back in another 30 DAYS when it was said March he’ll be re-evaluated then he must have bigger problems to worry about

 

[hoopsjock]

Yet school is still in session for high school and below.

 

[illmatic99]

this is terrific. from the pac nw.

https://www.kptv.com/news/local-lab...cle_c4c32ce6-6400-11ea-adaf-df7ff9405b39.html

 

[Chris Craig]

Yet school is still in session for high school and below.

Not for long

 

[e_blazer]

For 99% of people in the above categories, based on the bold, it’s the flu.

If you honestly live your life afraid of things that are 1% or 2% (or less) likely to happen...

well that’s probably not a very fun time.

Especially if you’re near the San Andreas fault...

Or ever drive a car.

Or fly.

Or walk outside.

So, I stand by my statement, for 99% of people in those age brackets, it’s a bad flu.

What you’re missing is the cumulative impact of a major outbreak like this. One site I looked at showed that the number of confirmed cases increase by a factor of 10 every 16 days. At that rate it would only take a couple of months to completely overwhelm the medical systems of the country. The best estimates are expecting 70-150 million cases in the US from this epidemic. If the death rate is as low as 1%, we could be looking at over a million deaths. Many more than that would need intensive medical care. What’s critical is whether that happens over a matter of weeks or whether it can be stretched out over a longer period. There are only limited numbers of ICU beds and doctors. A fast spread would result in very sick people having no place to get medical care. All of these measures to reduce large groups are intended to slow the spread so that we can cope with this.

 

[JoshuaHall]

What you’re missing is the cumulative impact of a major outbreak like this. One site I looked at showed that the number of confirmed cases increase by a factor of 10 every 16 days. At that rate it would only take a couple of months to completely overwhelm the medical systems of the country. The best estimates are expecting 70-150 million cases in the US from this epidemic. If the death rate is as low as 1%, we could be looking at over a million deaths. Many more than that would need intensive medical care. What’s critical is whether that happens over a matter of weeks or whether it can be stretched out over a longer period. There are only limited numbers of ICU beds and doctors. A fast spread would result in very sick people having no place to get medical care. All of these measures to reduce large groups are intended to slow the spread so that we can cope with this.

I’m not missing anything. I was the first to say that the financial ramifications are going to be worse than the actual sickness. And people are all like “money money money, how dare you”

And then look at this: http://va.topbuzz.com/s/ZecbZe

Like I said, if there’s a 1% chance I die, I’m not worried about it.

(In fact while everyone else is up in arms, I enjoyed a nice flight to Taiwan. Then Thailand, where I currently am, chilling by the beach as everyone freaks the fuck out.)

Oh, and I have a compromised immune system, so I’m likely to have complications.

So like I said, if there’s a less than about 5% chance of something happening (death) I’m not worried about it.

which is why I flew across the world, super cheap.

I do understand for the 1%, yea, that sucks. But I’m not living my life in fear like that.

Other people can. Not me.

I stay level headed and can acknowledge, yea, that’s terrible but the likelihood it’s that bad for me... pretty low.

Obviously I’m not gonna Gobert it and cough on people and shit, but physically, *most people* in the grand scheme will be fine.

Edit: I think it’s an important distinction to make that I’m not saying “everything is ok”. I’m just saying, by the numbers, it’s not SARS or anything that’s likely to wipe out a *significant portion* of the world, or US, population.
I’m just saying, for most people, the actual sickness isn’t that bad. The other affects are worse.

like displacing people who would otherwise need treatment as you mentioned, patient neglect, etc.

 

[e_blazer]

I’m not missing anything. I was the first to say that the financial ramifications are going to be worse than the actual sickness. And people are all like “money money money, how dare you”

And then look at this: http://va.topbuzz.com/s/ZecbZe

Like I said, if there’s a 1% chance I die, I’m not worried about it.

(In fact while everyone else is up in arms, I enjoyed a nice flight to Taiwan. Then Thailand, where I currently am, chilling by the beach as everyone freaks the fuck out.)

Oh, and I have a compromised immune system, so I’m likely to have complications.

So like I said, if there’s a less than about 5% chance of something happening (death) I’m not worried about it.

which is why I flew across the world, super cheap.

I do understand for the 1%, yea, that sucks. But I’m not living my life in fear like that.

Other people can. Not me.

I stay level headed and can acknowledge, yea, that’s terrible but the likelihood it’s that bad for me... pretty low.

Obviously I’m not gonna Gobert it and cough on people and shit, but physically, *most people* in the grand scheme will be fine.

Sure, if you’re young there’s not much chance that you’re going to die from this. You’ll likely get it, but will get over it in a couple of weeks. I’m not suggesting that you should be particularly worried for your own health. Of course, if you’re in a car wreck and there’s no room at the hospital for you because it’s full of sick old people you could be screwed. And, if the old lady across the street croaks and there’s no one to cart her away, that stink could get kind of annoying. But, overall, yeah, you’re probably good. A few of us older guys from the board may go missing, but I guess that won’t bother you either.

 

[lawai'a]

We're only testing the sickest.

and the dead

 

[JoshuaHall]

Sure, if you’re young there’s not much chance that you’re going to die from this. You’ll likely get it, but will get over it in a couple of weeks. I’m not suggesting that you should be particularly worried for your own health. Of course, if you’re in a car wreck and there’s no room at the hospital for you because it’s full of sick old people you could be screwed. And, if the old lady across the street croaks and there’s no one to cart her away, that stink could get kind of annoying. But, overall, yeah, you’re probably good. A few of us older guys from the board may go missing, but I guess that won’t bother you either.

....

Edit: I think it’s an important distinction to make that I’m not saying “everything is ok”. I’m just saying, by the numbers, it’s not SARS or anything that’s likely to wipe out a *significant portion* of the world, or US, population.
I’m just saying, for most people, the actual sickness isn’t that bad. The other affects are worse.

like displacing people who would otherwise needtreatment as you mentioned, patient neglect, etc.

Guessing you missed this bit...

 

[kjironman1]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[Hoopguru]

Sure, if you’re young there’s not much chance that you’re going to die from this. You’ll likely get it, but will get over it in a couple of weeks. I’m not suggesting that you should be particularly worried for your own health. Of course, if you’re in a car wreck and there’s no room at the hospital for you because it’s full of sick old people you could be screwed. And, if the old lady across the street croaks and there’s no one to cart her away, that stink could get kind of annoying. But, overall, yeah, you’re probably good. A few of us older guys from the board may go missing, but I guess that won’t bother you either.

EB, just curious are you changing up your routine on where yo go or what you do during the day? Im 69, cancer surviver that was also quarantined when I was 17 with infectious hepatitis so I guess my immune system is somewhat suspect from that alone. My routine is pretty basic, I get up early hit the gym to work on my new knees and some, hit Lowes or Home or depot, visit kids and grandkids. Wife na di do alot of camping and such, play close to home. We have cancelled a trip we had to the Islands we had schedule. Im starting to wonder if I should even get out with all Im hearing. What are your thoughts? Thanks

 

[PDXFonz]

Recently read that he sold his Olympic medal and MVP award to fund affordable housing. Chuck jokes around and may come across as a goon on TV but he seems like a real one for sure. Hoping for a full recovery for the round mound of rebound!

 

[e_blazer]

EB, just curious are you changing up your routine on where yo go or what you do during the day? Im 69, cancer surviver that was also quarantined when I was 17 with infectious hepatitis so I guess my immune system is somewhat suspect from that alone. My routine is pretty basic, I get up early hit the gym to work on my new knees and some, hit Lowes or Home or depot, visit kids and grandkids. Wife na di do alot of camping and such, play close to home. We have cancelled a trip we had to the Islands we had schedule. Im starting to wonder if I should even get out with all Im hearing. What are your thoughts? Thanks

I’m 67 and in pretty good health overall. My wife and I have made some changes to reduce our risk of exposure. I work from home, so I don’t have much worry there. We try to do shopping during low traffic times and try to buy for a week or more so we don’t have as many trips. We’re cutting out eating out and movies. We are watching our church online. Our biggest potential source of infection is watching our 7 month old grandson for our daughter once a week. She just got cleared to work from home so that may change that. We’re minimizing doing things with friends. For recreation I think we’ll do outdoor stuff like driving to the beach or mountains for a hike. Not sure what more we can do. I’m not particularly worried about getting sick because we’re in pretty good shape, but I’m doing what I can to avoid it.

 

[Hoopguru]

I’m 67 and in pretty good health overall. My wife and I have made some changes to reduce our risk of exposure. I work from home, so I don’t have much worry there. We try to do shopping during low traffic times and try to buy for a week or more so we don’t have as many trips. We’re cutting out eating out and movies. We are watching our church online. Our biggest potential source of infection is watching our 7 month old grandson for our daughter once a week. She just got cleared to work from home so that may change that. We’re minimizing doing things with friends. For recreation I think we’ll do outdoor stuff like driving to the beach or mountains for a hike. Not sure what more we can do. I’m not particularly worried about getting sick because we’re in pretty good shape, but I’m doing what I can to avoid it.

Thanks appreciate the feedback.

 

[THE HCP]

 

[Lanny]

How will the refunds work for future games that I've already sold? Some I've sold for more than I paid and some I've sold for less than I paid. How will that be worked out?

 

[tlongII]

How will the refunds work for future games that I've already sold? Some I've sold for more than I paid and some I've sold for less than I paid. How will that be worked out?

I would assume that’s up to you and whomever you sold them to?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

How will the refunds work for future games that I've already sold? Some I've sold for more than I paid and some I've sold for less than I paid. How will that be worked out?

Did you sell them through the Blazers website?

 

[wizenheimer]

So, I stand by my statement, for 99% of people in those age brackets, it’s a bad flu.

ok then:

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3

it's a bit of a chore to get to an apples and apples comparison because the age breakdowns are different. For flu, in the 18-49 group the mortality rate is .02%. In a similar age group of C-19, it's about .27% (averaging 3 brackets)

if you have 100,000 people in that 18-49 age group infected with either virus...the deaths from flu would be 20; the deaths from C-19 would be 270.

if you have 100,000 people in the 50-64 age group infected with either virus...the deaths from flu would be 60; the deaths from C-19 would be about 2100

yeah, that's right, you're saying 20 deaths are about the same as 270 deaths; and that 60 deaths are about the same as 2100. Combining the two, that's 80 deaths vs 2370 deaths; and that's for people with ages from 18-65. That's a lot of age profiles

and that's one hell of a "bad flu"