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Not a trade rumor more FA but ...

Aaron J. Lopez @AaronLopez
Key reserves @DarrellArthur00 and @Nate_Robinson exercise options for 2014-15. Good news for #Nuggets bench.

Any interest in either?
 
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Blazinaway said:
but lousy the entire yr, no thx on him, what I like about Jordan Hill is that he will likely cost less than the full MLE, he improved last yr when given good consistent minutes, is still young at 25 and averaged 9.7 PPG (54.9% FG%) and 7.4 rebs in only 20.8 minutes. He's a solid defender as well and a PF/C which IMO would be very nice to have and he can still improve. IMO he is the best (MLE $$ or les)s big available for us for several reasons
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I can get on board with hill. But you are easily writing off talented guys in Frye or Davis. Do the spurs look at belinelli and write him off after a bad year (Davis, Frye did not have a bad year). No. The spurs realize he is a fit in the system they have and belinelli has a fantastic season for them.

Frye sucked when he was here because nate was the worst coach possible for him. Stotts and Frye is a great fit.

Also I mention big baby because he might be cheaper based on last year. We know the guy is talented, he had an off year, but could easily return to form on a friendly contract.
 
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JFizzleRaider said:
I can get on board with hill. But you are easily writing off talented guys in Frye or Davis. Do the spurs look at belinelli and write him off after a bad year (Davis, Frye did not have a bad year). No. The spurs realize he is a fit in the system they have and belinelli has a fantastic season for them.

Frye sucked when he was here because nate was the worst coach possible for him. Stotts and Frye is a great fit.

Also I mention big baby because he might be cheaper based on last year. We know the guy is talented, he had an off year, but could easily return to form on a friendly contract.
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I am not writing them off, if they came cheap (Bae or less) they are attractive
 
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JFizzleRaider said:
The guy had a decent year and fits our offense. Name these better options.... Frye loves it here and would actually listen if we called

Also don't the spurs sign undervalued guys to fit a system? Frye fits stotts system as good as anyone available.
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Frye wouldn't be bad, but the problem I have with him is that he essentially plays the role of a wing, not a big. The team rebounding really suffer when he's in, unless you play him at small forward. He only shot 43% fg last year, and 5.1 rpg.

Some available free agents that have better rebounding and fg% numbers: Andray Blatche, Jordan Hill, Jason Smith, Kris Humphries, and Jeff Adrien.
 
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humphries is an interesting idea
 
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Boise Blazer said:
Not a trade rumor more FA but ...

Aaron J. Lopez @AaronLopez
Key reserves @DarrellArthur00 and @nate_robinson exercise options for 2014-15. Good news for #Nuggets bench.

Any interest in either?
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They exercised their options . . . you thinking trade?
 
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Re: Channing Frye

I think he would be a great get, and this from somebody who thinks our defense needs improvement (i.e., somebody who's not blind). It's abundantly clear that in today's NBA you have to have shooters at practically every position. This is why a teams with a so-so distributors but great shooters (Curry, Lillard) do better than teams with PGs who can't shoot but can do everything else (Rondo, Rubio). Last year was the year of the shooter: turns out Channing Frye had the best +/- per minute of any Suns player. And he's not nothing on defense - he's actually smart and quite active.
 
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Joe Kotoch: Cavs will reach out to Minnesota about Love but not willing to include 1st pick or Irving.

If true, doesn't look like LA would get the Blazers a #1 pick
 
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42N8Bounce said:
Frye wouldn't be bad, but the problem I have with him is that he essentially plays the role of a wing, not a big. The team rebounding really suffer when he's in, unless you play him at small forward. He only shot 43% fg last year, and 5.1 rpg.

Some available free agents that have better rebounding and fg% numbers: Andray Blatche, Jordan Hill, Jason Smith, Kris Humphries, and Jeff Adrien.
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He shot 37% from 3 as that's where he likes tp take most of his shots. He allows us to run similar sets with Aldridge out of the game and loves Portland. Robinson, Aldridge or Lopez would be in the game with him and are fine rebounders. Batum is a great rebounder for his position. We would be fine
 
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Treaty_of_Batum said:
Joe Kotoch: Cavs will reach out to Minnesota about Love but not willing to include 1st pick or Irving.

If true, doesn't look like LA would get the Blazers a #1 pick
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if thats true then they have no shot at Love then. Thompson/waiters/Bennett arent going to get you an allstar let alone an all nba player.

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42N8Bounce said:
Frye wouldn't be bad, but ...The team rebounding really suffer when he's in,
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Can you prove this? (SOMEbody could because there's almost certainly a stat site somewhere with the relevant info.) There are some players (notably our own RoLo) who help team rebounding despite having fairly underwhelming personal numbers because they're doing great jobs boxing out and such like. Frye's benefit would be on offense - he would pull the opposing center out of the paint freeing up greater OR opportunities.
 
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I looked for Frye's weight on line and saw 245 and 263. I don't know why but I am always curious to know the real measurements.
 
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http://bkref.com/tiny/cOzjp

Frye versus who he'd replace in the lineup (Freeland).

You lose 2 rebounds per 18 minutes, but gain 3 points per 18 minutes. I guess that's the tradeoff.
 
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Hearing Suns' Channing Frye will definitely opt out of his deal (player option for 2014-15 at $6.8 million). If that happens, I'm sure the Warriors will go hard after him, and that he'd be interested. There's mutual respect between Frye and Steve Kerr.

Look who is interested in Frye. If GS had their way they would trade for Love and sign Melo and Frye as FAs . . . and somehow figure a way to make it work. :)
 
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GS is in like every single rumor. Wouldn't it be funny if they ended up not doing anything?
 
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More rumors:

Ric Bucher: Sources: KLove deal to Warriors is dead. Love "unlikely" now to be dealt before draft.
 
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BlazerCaravan said:
http://bkref.com/tiny/cOzjp

Frye versus who he'd replace in the lineup (Freeland).

You lose 2 rebounds per 18 minutes, but gain 3 points per 18 minutes. I guess that's the tradeoff.
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Interesting numbers. Look at the offensive vs defensive rebounds. He' just a bit behind Freeland in defensive rebounds, but significantly behind him on offensive rebounds (per 36). This makes sense because on the defensive end, he's guarding the other teams big, and in position for a rebound. On the offensive end, he's essentially playing the wing position up top.

If you played Frye with a good rebounding wing like Batum, I think you could make up for that deficiency.

I like Frye, but I'm not sold that you need your bigs as outside shooters. I'd rather go after a big that's a solid rebounder, and when they do shoot, they stick to the high percentage shots down low.
 
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USA Today reports the Rockets have "lined up" trades for Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin, but will execute them only if they can't land LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony in free agency

Sound like something Olshey could be involved in? But not sure how we give Rockets cap space . . .


(We could use both those players)
 
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Treaty_of_Batum said:
USA Today reports the Rockets have "lined up" trades for Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin, but will execute them only if they can't land LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony in free agency

Sound like something Olshey could be involved in? But not sure how we give Rockets cap space . . .


(We could use both those players)
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How could we afford asik?
 
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Scalma said:
How could we afford asik?
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Lin and Asik are owed just under $15 million apiece next season. Due to an unusual provision in their contracts, however, their actual cap hits are closer to $8.4 million apiece.


Edit: Can watson be used as an expiring contract?
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
Can you prove this? (SOMEbody could because there's almost certainly a stat site somewhere with the relevant info.) There are some players (notably our own RoLo) who help team rebounding despite having fairly underwhelming personal numbers because they're doing great jobs boxing out and such like. Frye's benefit would be on offense - he would pull the opposing center out of the paint freeing up greater OR opportunities.
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Apparently LMA does the same, since Hickson's TRB% went down this year while RoLo's went up.

Hickson had his career high two years ago at 20.7% next to LMA. It dropped to 18.3% this year with no LMA boxing out for him.

RoLo had his career high at 14.5%, vs. 12.9% last year when he was boxing out for Anthony Davis. :MARIS61:
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
Can you prove this? (SOMEbody could because there's almost certainly a stat site somewhere with the relevant info.) There are some players (notably our own RoLo) who help team rebounding despite having fairly underwhelming personal numbers because they're doing great jobs boxing out and such like. Frye's benefit would be on offense - he would pull the opposing center out of the paint freeing up greater OR opportunities.
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I don't know if it was just a throwaway comment, or a poor assumption that it would. But last year, for Frye, the team's TRB% decreased when he was off the court. DRB% decreased as well.
 
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Treaty_of_Batum said:
Lin and Asik are owed just under $15 million apiece next season. Due to an unusual provision in their contracts, however, their actual cap hits are closer to $8.4 million apiece.


Edit: Can watson be used as an expiring contract?
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Does that hold true for anyone who trades for them? In other words what deal is Houston looking for that benefits them the most in terms of cap space for Melo? Besides an ending contract.
 
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they are going to look to trade them to a team with cap space, likely with some sweetener (picks/ prospects) in order to shed the salary completely from their cap. in order to sign melo or whatever the fuck they are thinking
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Does that hold true for anyone who trades for them? In other words what deal is Houston looking for that benefits them the most in terms of cap space for Melo? Besides an ending contract.
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I don't understand to detail how it all works, but reading an article (assuming writer understands), they are looking for teams with cap space, expiring contracts and/or future draft picks
 
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42N8Bounce said:
Interesting numbers. Look at the offensive vs defensive rebounds. He' just a bit behind Freeland in defensive rebounds, but significantly behind him on offensive rebounds (per 36). This makes sense because on the defensive end, he's guarding the other teams big, and in position for a rebound. On the offensive end, he's essentially playing the wing position up top.

If you played Frye with a good rebounding wing like Batum, I think you could make up for that deficiency.

I like Frye, but I'm not sold that you need your bigs as outside shooters. I'd rather go after a big that's a solid rebounder, and when they do shoot, they stick to the high percentage shots down low.
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I'm not wed to the idea of a three-point bomber big guy, but you need people who can shoot similarly to the people they're replacing if you're doing a "system" offense. In the case of TRob and Frye, you'd reverse who they sub in for, and play them as a burly body (Robin/TRob) who can do the pick and roll, and a willowy midrange shooter (LA/Frye). Freeland and TRob are two poor shooter with no range together, and the system fell apart, because no matter how well Mo emulated Dame, or Barton/CJ emulated Wes or Wright emulated Batum, the lack of spacing because nobody needed to really defend Freeland/TRob hurt. Frye helps that by keeping defenses more honest. Spacing spacing spacing.

I bet adding a legit shooter at the PF position and keeping everyone else the same would see our bench improve just because there'd be less need for Moffense, fewer broken plays, and more offensive consistency as players are brought in and out gradually.
 
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