Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

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Depending on how much faith you have in Williams, we could move him for Tate and a 2nd or 2. Can probably flip Tate for a 2nd. And it would generate a TPE for Williams' full salary of 11.5.

Then, could send brogdon to houston for oladipo, Landale and a 1st, and generate another 14.5 million dollar tpe.
Gets us over 15 million away from the tax which means, if we wanted, we could try to take on someone's bleh salary for picks with one of the exceptions
 
RR7 said:
Depending on how much faith you have in Williams, we could move him for Tate and a 2nd or 2. Can probably flip Tate for a 2nd. And it would generate a TPE for Williams' full salary of 11.5.

Then, could send brogdon to houston for oladipo, Landale and a 1st, and generate another 14.5 million dollar tpe.
Gets us over 15 million away from the tax which means, if we wanted, we could try to take on someone's bleh salary for picks with one of the exceptions
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To build on this, looking at teams near the cap, or near the 2nd apron, if we were to do the two deals above, we could then turn around and make a trade with, say, Miami. They're currently 8.4 million over the LT. Sticking them with a bill of over 13.5 million. We could take Caleb Martin and Jovic in to those TPEs, and immediately get them out of the tax, saving them over 20 million dollars, and giving us a prospect some here liked in Jovic. And then can likely flip Martin for another 2nd somewhere, or look to flip him in the offseason.

Philly is currently about 4.3 million over. We could easily absorb Covington from them, and save them close to 20 million dollars as well, depending on what they're willing to pay to get that far under the tax.
 
tlongII said:
It would be just our luck if we traded Robert Williams and he somehow remains injury free for the next 3-5 years.
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Yeah, but that's a gamble I'm willing to take. He's not really young at 26. I don't think his body is going to hold up very long.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah, but that's a gamble I'm willing to take. He's not really young at 26. I don't think his body is going to hold up very long.
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That and, I really like him(if healthy), as a backup C for us. But it's not like you're gambling to get a Zion Williamson type. It's still just an above average hustle big. I'm ok with a big TPE and 2 nds or so
 
RR7 said:
That and, I really like him(if healthy), as a backup C for us. But it's not like you're gambling to get a Zion Williamson type. It's still just an above average hustle big. I'm ok with a big TPE and 2 nds or so
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I think with his injury history the guy has maybe 2-3 more years where he could be really good when healthy. But I can’t imagine he will be anywhere near as good into his 30s so the guy just doesn’t fit our window. If someone is willing to give us decent value, you take it.
 
tlongII said:
It would be just our luck if we traded Robert Williams and he somehow remains injury free for the next 3-5 years.
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Much more likely is that we DON'T trade him with that worry in mind and he never plays again.
 
Joe must prise some of the young talented length from HOU.
 
Cugel said:
Joe must prise some of the young talented length from HOU.
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I would honestly see how badly they want Malcolm and Rob and if they want them bad enough see what kind of future draft capital it would take or draft capital from another trade to get Jabari Smith Jr. If that's at all possible.
 
It's a shame that the Blazers have zero coverage on The Athletic. What happened to Jason Quick?
 
blazerkor said:
I would honestly see how badly they want Malcolm and Rob and if they want them bad enough see what kind of future draft capital it would take or draft capital from another trade to get Jabari Smith Jr. If that's at all possible.
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I'll be shocked if HOU trades any of their promising young players.
 
blazerkor said:
I would honestly see how badly they want Malcolm and Rob and if they want them bad enough see what kind of future draft capital it would take or draft capital from another trade to get Jabari Smith Jr. If that's at all possible.
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Shit, I’d take Cam Whitmore. He reminds me of Corey Maggette
 
it's now 10 days till the trade deadline and there seems to be a noticeable absence of Blazer rumors. Hopefully that's a "it's quiet...too quiet" calm before the storm.

Cronin has been active at each of his two trade deadlines trading away CJ, Nance RoCo, Powell, Hart, and Gary Payton while adding Thybulle, Cam Reddish, Kevin Knox, Keon Johnson. That's certainly heavily weighted to outgoing talent (and outgoing salary)

but he also essentially added the picks and maneuvering room to land Grant and Kris Murray

if the Blazers don't make any significant moves what they are doing right now is baffling. Last night, Brogdon and Ant averaged 37 minutes; Scoot had 22 and was seeming benched for the same kind of screw-ups Brogdon and Ant were busy committing. Grant & Thybulle averaged 35 minutes while Camara played less than 3 and Murray + Rupert logged DNP-CD's. Even if trades were imminent that kind of imbalance wouldn't make sense.
 
Fanspo says it is unsuccessful, but it's not taking in to account that each team could build trades that suit themselves, instead of all of the parameters of the deal having to be the same for all teams.

For the Rockets, they trade Tate for Williams. Trade rules state that any outgoing salary up to 7.5 million can match up to 200%. So Tate could bring in 13 million. Williams makes 11.5 Successful deal. Then they swap Oladipo and Landale(17.4) for Brogdon(22.5). Deals between 7.5 and 29 million outgoing can add 7.5 million to them. In this deal, Houston adds 5.1. Successful deal.

For Philly, you can always take in less salary. So they trade out 11.6 for 6.5.

For Portland, I believe I have it correct, we treat it as 2 separate deals. We trade Williams(11.5) for Tate and Oladipo(15.9). We take Landale in to TPE. We trade Tate(6.5) for Covington(11.6) (Tate's 6.5*200%), and trade Brogdon to Houston for nothing, creating a TPE of 22.5 million good until next season.

We get the right to swap our GS pick with Houston for the Brooklyn pick(top 3 protected) this season. And we get their 2025 pick, which would be theirs, OKC's or Brooklyn's.
We get 2 2nds from Philly this season(I know we already have 2. They're still assets that can be flipped or combined with 2nds to move up, etc.), and the right to swap any of our 3 2029 picks(Ours, Bucks, or Celtics) with one of their 2029 picks(theirs or Clippers).

In the end, we move Brogdon and Williams for all expiring deals, 2 2nds, 2 swaps, and a '25 pick.


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I love reading other forums. Rocket's fans want Reath with Mal and Timelord. Makes me happy for Duop. The same fuckers are misers though. No FRP.
 
RR7 said:
Fanspo says it is unsuccessful, but it's not taking in to account that each team could build trades that suit themselves, instead of all of the parameters of the deal having to be the same for all teams.

For the Rockets, they trade Tate for Williams. Trade rules state that any outgoing salary up to 7.5 million can match up to 200%. So Tate could bring in 13 million. Williams makes 11.5 Successful deal. Then they swap Oladipo and Landale(17.4) for Brogdon(22.5). Deals between 7.5 and 29 million outgoing can add 7.5 million to them. In this deal, Houston adds 5.1. Successful deal.

For Philly, you can always take in less salary. So they trade out 11.6 for 6.5.

For Portland, I believe I have it correct, we treat it as 2 separate deals. We trade Williams(11.5) for Tate and Oladipo(15.9). We take Landale in to TPE. We trade Tate(6.5) for Covington(11.6) (Tate's 6.5*200%), and trade Brogdon to Houston for nothing, creating a TPE of 22.5 million good until next season.

We get the right to swap our GS pick with Houston for the Brooklyn pick(top 3 protected) this season. And we get their 2025 pick, which would be theirs, OKC's or Brooklyn's.
We get 2 2nds from Philly this season(I know we already have 2. They're still assets that can be flipped or combined with 2nds to move up, etc.), and the right to swap any of our 3 2029 picks(Ours, Bucks, or Celtics) with one of their 2029 picks(theirs or Clippers).

In the end, we move Brogdon and Williams for all expiring deals, 2 2nds, 2 swaps, and a '25 pick.


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Philadelphia 76ers want proven players that can help now, not draft picks. They’re in that championship window. I’m sure they would love Jerami Grant though.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Philadelphia 76ers want proven players that can help now, not draft picks. They’re in that championship window. I’m sure they would love Jerami Grant though.
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I didn't give them draft picks, I was taking a swap from them, and providing them with a decent role player in Tate, while also saving them over 11 million dollars this season.
 
i think we have showcased Malcolm enough now. Let's not risk any injury moving forward and put him on the shelf until he gets traded?

He is worth at least one decent first and multiple seconds. Unless a "good" young front court player who can grow into a future starter is on the market, I'm happy to move Malcolm for just picks.
 
I like how the Warriors are in an "early season hole"
 
I like the KJ Martin trade idea someone brought up. Morrison, Martin, 2026 first for Brogdon.
 
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