Exclusive NBA Trade Deadline Thread 2024

[wizenheimer]

so, the Pelicans are 'paying' a 2nd to get under the tax line by dumping Lewis...?

I think this is a decent gamble by Indiana. I'm assuming no protections on the picks, but the two 2024 first's could both be in the 20's in what many are saying is a weak draft. And if Indy can re-sign Siakam their 2026 first might be in the 20's as well

 

[RR7]

so, the Pelicans are 'paying' a 2nd to get under the tax line by dumping Lewis...?

I think this is a decent gamble by Indiana. I'm assuming no protections on the picks, but the two 2024 first's could both be in the 20's in what many are saying is a weak draft. And if Indy can re-sign Siakam their 2026 first might be in the 20's as well

Yeah, Pelicans get under the tx dumping Lewis, and Indy absorbs him in to cap space, then can aggregate him with Brown and Nwora to make the $$ work on Pascal, while adding a 2nd for it.

 

[Pinwheel1]

negotiation tactic?

Yeah, they can't fool anyone with Brogdon. They don't start him now even though he is currently our best PG.
So other teams know he is not in our future plans.

Grant, on the other hand, the Blazers can at least pretend that they want to keep him.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Curious as to why Toronto did not wait till closer to the trade deadline. Brown is ok and the picks look to be in the 20's. It is possible that Indiana had another deal lined up and pushed to complete this now. One would think a similar deal would still have been there later, possibly better.

 

[wizenheimer]

Curious as to why Toronto did not wait till closer to the trade deadline. Brown is ok and the picks look to be in the 20's. It is possible that Indiana had another deal lined up and pushed to complete this now. One would think a similar deal would still have been there later, possibly better.

Toronto has been shopping Siakam for months so they knew the market. It might have been a 'why wait' situation for them

meanwhile, Indy has 13 games between now and the deadline. They may have been pushing the Raptors to get the deal done ASAP; having 40 games with Siakam would be a lot better from their POV than 28 games. I doubt it happened, but Indy could have been asking for protections on the pick(s) if this deal happened at the deadline

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Curious as to why Toronto did not wait till closer to the trade deadline. Brown is ok and the picks look to be in the 20's. It is possible that Indiana had another deal lined up and pushed to complete this now. One would think a similar deal would still have been there later, possibly better.

3 firsts (low though they may be) is more than most expected Toronto to be able to get for a dude who's expiring. I don't blame them for taking this deal.

 

[illmatic99]

now that the siakam piece is down and set the market, offers for grant should start to appear soon.

orlando/sac/gs/dal among my initial thought of potential suitors. maybe even OKC.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[illmatic99]

also, a ridiculous overpay from indy in my estimation. assurance that he won't leave this summer also does little for me considering he's expecting 200+ mil.

that's a second round team, at best. and now with very few ways to get better than that.

KP shoots another team in the foot.

 

[BankTeller]

now that the siakam piece is down and set the market, offers for grant should start to appear soon.

orlando/sac/gs/dal among my initial thought of potential suitors. maybe even OKC.

I don’t know why Cronin wouldn’t even entertain it. Siakam is just the first of possibly many overpays. That’s one team that thinks they’re good enough to compete in the east.

The beginning of the season, I thought Cronin was playing kingmaker with Milwaukie, then Boston.

 

[TBpup]

That is a massive overpay for Siakam. I guess Masai might actually salvage his job.

The picks just aren't that great. 2 mid to late 20's picks in this year's Draft which is considered quite a poor Draft. Then another one in a couple of years when Indy could be pretty darn good if they re-sign Siakam. Those 3 picks are WAY worse than the multiple Lottery picks he wanted from Portland for OG.

 

[blazerkor]

Is it possible that the Pacers would still want Jerami? They didn't trade either of Hield or Walker per reports and that would be the package that would make the most sense to me, with us moving Hield to another team like the Lakers.

I think Jerami and Siakam would be pretty great together as forwards.

 

[RR7]

Toronto has been shopping Siakam for months so they knew the market. It might have been a 'why wait' situation for them

meanwhile, Indy has 13 games between now and the deadline. They may have been pushing the Raptors to get the deal done ASAP; having 40 games with Siakam would be a lot better from their POV than 28 games. I doubt it happened, but Indy could have been asking for protections on the pick(s) if this deal happened at the deadline

That and Toronto owes a pick to SA, top 6 protected. It makes sense for them to tank as much as possible

 

[PtldPlatypus]

also, a ridiculous overpay from indy in my estimation. assurance that he won't leave this summer also does little for me considering he's expecting 200+ mil.

that's a second round team, at best. and now with very few ways to get better than that.

KP shoots another team in the foot.

I dunno--I'll be very interested to see how well Haliburton and Siakam pair; they're probably the best 1-4 combo in the league outside of Milwaukee.

 

[BankTeller]

Is it possible that the Pacers would still want Jerami? They didn't trade either of Hield or Walker per reports and that would be the package that would make the most sense to me, with us moving Hield to another team like the Lakers.

I think Jerami and Siakam would be pretty great together as forwards.

But I mean, why do you trade Walker for Grant if you don’t trade Walker for Siakam.

Toronot fans would riot if they see Indy trading Walker for Grant a few days later LOL.

 

[BankTeller]

The picks just aren't that great. 2 mid to late 20's picks in this year's Draft which is considered quite a poor Draft. Then another one in a couple of years when Indy could be pretty darn good if they re-sign Siakam. Those 3 picks are WAY worse than the multiple Lottery picks he wanted from Portland for OG.

Yeah, not terrible in the grand scheme of things, ESPECIALLY if Walker or Mathurin pop. That team should look great for a good while.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Is it possible that the Pacers would still want Jerami? They didn't trade either of Hield or Walker per reports and that would be the package that would make the most sense to me, with us moving Hield to another team like the Lakers.

I think Jerami and Siakam would be pretty great together as forwards.

There was a lot of discussion around that this offseason with regard to the Blazers potentially pursuing Siakam. Seemed like most in this forum didn't think that sliding Grant down to the 3 would work well.

I tend to agree with you that it would at the very least be worth consideration.

 

[illmatic99]

I dunno--I'll be very interested to see how well Haliburton and Siakam pair; they're probably the best 1-4 combo in the league outside of Milwaukee.

better than booker/kd? fox/sabonis? sga/chet?

 

[BankTeller]

better than booker/kd? fox/sabonis? sga/chet?

In the east is what he maybe meant.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

better than booker/kd? fox/sabonis? sga/chet?

I don't really think of Booker as a 1, but I guess he has been this year. Still, Haliburton has been arguably the best PG in the league, and while there's clearly a gulf between Durant and Siakam, I think the pairing in IND will be better than the one in PHX.

I would call both Sabonis and Chet 5's.

 

[Pinwheel1]

now that the siakam piece is down and set the market, offers for grant should start to appear soon.

orlando/sac/gs/dal among my initial thought of potential suitors. maybe even OKC.

why Orlando when they have Banchero and Wagner?
They seem set.

 

[illmatic99]

why Orlando when they have Banchero and Wagner?
They seem set.

oops. i kept thinking of orlando as a brogdon destination and confused them with a grant suitor.

 

[illmatic99]

 

[BankTeller]

What about Grant AND Thybulle? Or Grant AND Bruce Brown?

 

[illmatic99]

Knicks announcers openly talked about Brogdon being a target for them at the deadline last week on MSG.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Toronto has been shopping Siakam for months so they knew the market. It might have been a 'why wait' situation for them

meanwhile, Indy has 13 games between now and the deadline. They may have been pushing the Raptors to get the deal done ASAP; having 40 games with Siakam would be a lot better from their POV than 28 games. I doubt it happened, but Indy could have been asking for protections on the pick(s) if this deal happened at the deadline

3 firsts (low though they may be) is more than most expected Toronto to be able to get for a dude who's expiring. I don't blame them for taking this deal.

I think what I was missing was that the 2024 TOR pick is top six protected. They have incentive to tank and retain it, thus why they did this deal and the OG trade now. Brown could also be moved in the next couple of weeks. Guess it is better than letting him walk like they have done with other free agents lately.

 

[BankTeller]

I think what I was missing was that the 2024 TOR pick is top six protected. They have incentive to tank and retain it, thus why they did this deal and the OG trade now. Brown could also be moved in the next couple of weeks. Guess it is better than letting him walk like they have done with other free agents lately.

Don’t you think they also have incentive to just get rid of that pick obligation in a bad draft? That’s part of the reason I think the Jazz are still just gunning for it. Make a run in the post-season, drop the obligations, trade the vets after a surprise playoff run and gun for the ‘25 draft.

 

[illmatic99]

Ainge recognizes he's stuck in the middle. That's where he's offering up Lauri.

We keep thinking of Portland as a seller but here's an idea:

To POR:
Markkanen

To UTA:
GSW pick via POR
DAL pick via NYK
Kings pick
Davion Mitchell
Fournier

To NYK:
Brogdon

To SAC:
Thybulle
2nds from POR

SAC would need to send us another minimum contract filler and this works financially, so maybe he could be a foundational piece for us in the future? His skillset is exactly what we are lacking, and don't currently have any youngins who could assume that role.

Lauri looks awesome, and is due a BIG payday. He's young enough to straddle multiple timelines.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Don’t you think they also have incentive to just get rid of that pick obligation in a bad draft? That’s part of the reason I think the Jazz are still just gunning for it. Make a run in the post-season, drop the obligations, trade the vets after a surprise playoff run and gun for the ‘25 draft.

I do not see it that way. The pick owed to SA will always be top 6 protected and will convert to a second if not conveyed. While it is not a draft to tank like Detroit is currently doing since there is no top talent, there are a number of prospects that are worth taking a shot on in the Top 6.

With the Jazz, I am beginning to think they never tank.

 

[BigGameDamian]

We keep thinking of Portland as a seller but here's an idea:

To POR:
Markkanen

To UTA:
GSW pick via POR
DAL pick via NYK
Kings pick
Davion Mitchell
Fournier

To NYK:
Brogdon

To SAC:
Thybulle
2nds from POR

SAC would need to send us another minimum contract filler and this works financially, so maybe he could be a foundational piece for us in the future? His skillset is exactly what we are lacking, and don't currently have any youngins who could assume that role.

Lauri looks awesome, and is due a BIG payday. He's young enough to straddle multiple timelines.

I would love for the Blazers to get Markkanen! Markkanen with Ayton up front. I think he’d be great for us.