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What I don't get about trading Brogdon now is wouldn't a 2025 or later draft pick be worth less now than in July?

In any event, after the trade deadline and when Sharpe comes back, I don't want Brogdon on the court for more than 10-15 minutes a night.
 
wizenheimer said:
I've been saying it for years: the Blazers are addicted to straddling fences; they hedge their bets instead of doubling down. I think this has been true under Paul Allen since the Whitsitt days. And it sure appears to be true under Jody & the Vulcans.

letting-cakes-bake and needle-moving have been more than just simple-minded PR catch phrases...they have been the operating procedure. It's non-standard OP and it's doomed to fail, IMO. This is why they could never go all in on building a contender around Dame; it's why letting the Aldridge/Dame team crumble seemed normal; it's why overpaying for Turner and Crabbe and Meyers looked like good ideas; why paying two 1st's for RoCo looked smart, to them; why they were delusional for years about CJ being a worthy option 1b; it's why they yakkity-yak about re-tools instead of rebuilds which in turn is why they likely won't go all-in on a rebuild now believing the Ant/Grant combo can lead them to the promised land.

but then, the promised land for the Vulcans is just perpetually selling tickets and keeping the cash flowing so they may already be in paradise

notice: if they make major moves in the next 48 hours disregard this rant
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I'm not sure it's about straddling. I think it's more that under this ownership they're not making any moves that mortgage the future. We're going to grow slowly, organically and keep assets until she sells. That's what makes the team really valuable. If someone buys a new Lego set, you want to build it yourself. A professional sports franchise is a lot like a new Lego set for the wealthy.
 
beast crnjo said:
A lot of his success had to do with finding the right opportunities. Strickland for Wallace, trading for Rider, Wells etc...we didn't give up much to build that core.
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Gamble on malcontents?

Should we trade for Miles Bridges? How about Kevin Porter Jr?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
So after reading Ben you came to that conclusion? But not when some of us have been saying the same thing?
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Although my personal opinion is that especially Minnesotat needs to do more than nibble and might come up with a good offer. All their guys are healthy, they shouldn't pass up an opportunity to improve their team substantially right now.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Although my personal opinion is that especially Minnesotat needs to do more than nibble and might come up with a good offer. All their guys are healthy, they shouldn't pass up an opportunity to improve their team substantially right now.
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I started thinking that if MN does't want to give up Naz Reid, then how about Leonard Miller and a draft pick? Problem then is getting salaries to match. Even if they include Slo-mo, it would take 4 players. Maybe a third team?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Evan Sidery: Kyle Kuzma, Malcolm Brogdon and Bojan Bogdanovic appear unlikely to be traded before Thursday’s deadline, per @wojespn (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-woj-pod/id1470466331?i=1000644314106…). The Wizards, Trail Blazers and Pistons are more likely to reassess their futures in the offseason.
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This is basically telling me the offers suck. None of those guys are on expirings so the teams have time to wait until the off-season.

If there's one thing I've seen over the past few years it's that painting yourself into a corner where you feel like you have to trade someone is a recipe for getting pennies on the dollar.

EX:

OG Anunoby
Pascal Siakam
Norman Powell
Robert Covington
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
I started thinking that if MN does't want to give up Naz Reid, then how about Leonard Miller and a draft pick? Problem then is getting salaries to match. Even if they include Slo-mo, it would take 4 players. Maybe a third team?
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I looked at making a Minny deal work, it's impossible. Also they only have seconds anyways, so a lot of it will depend on how much you like Leonard Miller.
 
B-Roy said:
I looked at making a Minny deal work, it's impossible. Also they only have seconds anyways, so a lot of it will depend on how much you like Leonard Miller.
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Anderson, Brown and Miller would be a trade match for brogdon, barely. By 20k dollars.
 
Minnesota is an example of a team that doesn’t have any draft choices left because Danny took them all.
 
The Clippers, Phoenix Suns, Milwaukee Bucks are three teams that are basically out of draft choices so you can eliminate them unless you want to get some young person on their team, or maybe they have a couple of pics swaps left. If they don’t win in the next couple of years, and their players leave from retirement, or whatever, the teams holding their draft choices, are going to be in a great position. Maybe a team like the Lakers can always attract big-name, free agents, but those teams that I just mentioned won’t be able to.
 
I still think New Orleans and Brooklyn should consider Malcolm because he is a better PG than who they have starting. Well maybe. not the Nets if they consider Simmons their PG
 
beast crnjo said:
I was contesting the idea that Trader Bob couldn't operate in today's league. The luxury tax may have hampered some of his deals (like the one for Kemp, but that would have been a good thing).
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His method wouldn’t work, but his mindset would still work.
 
Natebishop3 said:
His method wouldn’t work, but his mindset would still work.
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He was aggressive, he made a lot of moves, and some worked out and some didn't.

Even going back to his Sonic days, he traded Scottie Pippen for Olden Polynice. But he laid the foundation for the great sonic teams of the 90s by drafting Payton and Kemp.

For some reason, he seemed to be the best GM and getting free agents to sign. Rod Strickland and Brian Grant were two of our best FA signings.
 
beast crnjo said:
He was aggressive, he made a lot of moves, and some worked out and some didn't.

Even going back to his Sonic days, he traded Scottie Pippen for Olden Polynice. But he laid the foundation for the great sonic teams of the 90s by drafting Payton and Kemp.

For some reason, he seemed to be the best GM and getting free agents to sign. Rod Strickland and Brian Grant were two of our best FA signings.
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He also brought us the infamous Jail Blazers.
 
Kano John said:
He also brought us the infamous Jail Blazers.
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I would take the Jail Blazers if it got us back to the WCF.
 
Kano John said:
He also brought us the infamous Jail Blazers.
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The jailblazer thing was overblown. People loved them until they started losing and sorta quit on the coach.
 
RR7 said:
Anderson, Brown and Miller would be a trade match for brogdon, barely. By 20k dollars.
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You're right. I was using ESPN but i see it works on Fanspo. I would take Alexander-Walker instead of Brown. I just like the way he plays defense. He shut down Jamal Murray in the playoffs last year. If we trade Thybulle some time, he could take over his role. He is a year older than Brown but still only 25, I think he would be as good as a late first so this would be a good deal for both teams. And this deal even saves the Blazers 6.7 million.
 
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UKRAINEFAN said:
You're right. I was using ESPN but i see it works on Fanspo. I would take Alexander-Walker instead of Brown. I just like the way he plays defense. If we trade Thybulle some time, he could take over his role. He is a year older than Brown but still only 25, I think he would be as good as a late first so this would be a good deal for both teams.
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Yeah, I only put Brown in because he plays less than NAW
 
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