Neil comments on the deadline

[Natebishop3]

what is he aiming for....signing a punter?

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Powell and Jones could both opt-out, go elsewhere and the Blazers would still be over the cap with only 7 players under contract. So they'd have to sign 7 players and they'd only have 25M in room under the tax line

or both Powell and Jones opt-in and the Blazers would need to sign 5 players with less than 5M of room under the tax line. Good luck with all that

Time to trade Christian James.

 

[blazerkor]

what is he aiming for....signing a punter?

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Powell and Jones could both opt-out, go elsewhere and the Blazers would still be over the cap with only 7 players under contract. So they'd have to sign 7 players and they'd only have 25M in room under the tax line

or both Powell and Jones opt-in and the Blazers would need to sign 5 players with less than 5M of room under the tax line. Good luck with all that

Neil made it clear yesterday that luxury tax won't be an issue next season but I get what you're saying.

Not to allude to Clownzano having a clue but when I look at Olshey's move I am also left most of the time asking, what is the plan? What is the plan to win a championship with Dame. It seems you're asking that too. I think the problem that we have with Olshey is all of us, every Blazers fan, thinks about how we can win a championship with Dame and Olshey is stuck thinking about how we can win one with Dame and CJ.

 

[wizenheimer]

Neil made it clear yesterday that luxury tax won't be an issue next season but I get what you're saying..

if he said that he's fucking lying. What else is new. Of course it's an issue, because if the Blazers go over the tax next season, they'd be in repeater tax the following season. They need two straight seasons out of the tax to break the cycle, or at least 2 out of 3 season not in the tax

and I'm fairly convinced that if Portland gets swept or simply bows out again in the first round, Seattle is not going to OK Portland being a taxpayer next season. That's probably the case if they have a 2nd round exit as well

something else, I think Olshey spends a lot more time thinking about how he can continue his 8M/year salary than he does thinking about how to get the Blazers a championship

 

[Duckhook]

what is he aiming for....signing a punter?

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Powell and Jones could both opt-out, go elsewhere and the Blazers would still be over the cap with only 7 players under contract. So they'd have to sign 7 players and they'd only have 25M in room under the tax line

or both Powell and Jones opt-in and the Blazers would need to sign 5 players with less than 5M of room under the tax line. Good luck with all that

Glad we got our money's worth out of Verejao...

 

[Natebishop3]

I think out of all the guys who were moved, I'm actually most bummed we didn't go after Vuc. I would have given up Nurk for Vuc.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

what is he aiming for....signing a punter?

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Powell and Jones could both opt-out, go elsewhere and the Blazers would still be over the cap with only 7 players under contract. So they'd have to sign 7 players and they'd only have 25M in room under the tax line

or both Powell and Jones opt-in and the Blazers would need to sign 5 players with less than 5M of room under the tax line. Good luck with all that

I'm hoping that Olshey will be so impressed with his work over the summer that he will beg the owner to go over the cap for this "once in a lifetime opportunity!"

 

[MickZagger]

Powell’s scored just as much as CJ on half the shots and twice the defense

 

[julius]

Anyone else feel like Norman (albeit, only 1 game) looked like someone who is a notch or 2 above Gary when it comes to being a complete player?

And I'm not so sure that Gary will ever get that way. Creating shots for himself doesn't seem like Garys strong suit, but thats not a knock on him. It's just not worth 20+ million.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Powell’s scored just as much as CJ on half the shots and twice the defense

Who had more assists and rebounds?

 

[RR7]

if he said that he's fucking lying. What else is new. Of course it's an issue, because if the Blazers go over the tax next season, they'd be in repeater tax the following season. They need two straight seasons out of the tax to break the cycle, or at least 2 out of 3 season not in the tax

and I'm fairly convinced that if Portland gets swept or simply bows out again in the first round, Seattle is not going to OK Portland being a taxpayer next season. That's probably the case if they have a 2nd round exit as well

something else, I think Olshey spends a lot more time thinking about how he can continue his 8M/year salary than he does thinking about how to get the Blazers a championship

The language of the CBA:

Teams pay an incremental tax rate based on their team salary as of the team's last regular season game, and whether the team is a "repeat offender," i.e., whether they were also taxpayers in at least three of the four previous seasons (not including the most recent season)

I'm looking at the "not including the most recent season" portion. we paid the previous 2. Not paying this season. So next year, we can go balls out, and still only pay normal tax. It's really 22-23 we'd have to worry about getting under again. Because that would be 3 of 4, not including that most recent season.

 

[42N8Bounce]

The Melo hate is so ridiculous. Not only is he a great teammate and locker room presence, but how many games has he won us this year? To complain about the 6th/7th man on the roster, who is making the minimum, and putting up 14 points on 40% shooting from 3 is so out of touch. I think a lot of people forger he took less to stay in Portland and has happily accepted his role coming off the bench.

Who else is giving you his production at his salary?

I'm not saying he's without flaws, but really, who else is giving you what he gives on a minimum deal?

I'll GLADLY take another year of Melo as our 6th/7th man if he wants to come back. He was clutch in the Bubble last year and he's been clutch this year as well.

Great point.



For what we're paying him, Carmelo is the second best value if you use 'Cost per WS' as a metric. He's our best value if you look at 'Cost per Points' alone.

Kanter is a damn good value also. I love watching him play. 100% hustle every night.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I think out of all the guys who were moved, I'm actually most bummed we didn't go after Vuc. I would have given up Nurk for Vuc.

Our problem is defense, putting Vucevic in at center doesn't help this team contend.

Maybe a Dame & Vucevic duo could be dangerous, but they would need a ton of defensive players up and down the rest of the roster.

Instead we have guys such as Melo, Kanter, and CJ. It just wouldn't work.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

The language of the CBA:
I'm looking at the "not including the most recent season" portion. we paid the previous 2. Not paying this season. So next year, we can go balls out, and still only pay normal tax. It's really 22-23 we'd have to worry about getting under again. Because that would be 3 of 4, not including that most recent season.

I don't think your conclusion is right... I think by "not including the most recent season" they mean the season that ended a couple months ago.

 

[wizenheimer]

The language of the CBA:
I'm looking at the "not including the most recent season" portion. we paid the previous 2. Not paying this season. So next year, we can go balls out, and still only pay normal tax. It's really 22-23 we'd have to worry about getting under again. Because that would be 3 of 4, not including that most recent season.

pretty sure that's what I said:

"because if the Blazers go over the tax next season, they'd be in repeater tax the following season"

I was talking about the 22-23 season

My thinking is that if Portland busts well over the tax line next season (go balls out), they'd probably still be over the following season. They won't be able to re-sign all of RoCo and Powell, and Nurkic and Jones, and whoever else, to 1 year contracts. And if they don't re-sign guys like that they won't be a good enough team to remotely justify busting the tax threshold.

 

[RR7]

pretty sure that's what I said:

"because if the Blazers go over the tax next season, they'd be in repeater tax the following season"

I was talking about the 22-23 season

My thinking is that if Portland busts well over the tax line next season (go balls out), they'd probably still be over the following season. They won't be able to re-sign all of RoCo and Powell, and Nurkic and Jones, and whoever else, to 1 year contracts. And if they don't re-sign guys like that they won't be a good enough team to remotely justify busting the tax threshold.

Yep, I misread that, sorry.

 

[DDolla]

“Jody doesn’t let the finances impact basketball decisions, no different than Paul,” Olshey said. “When I came here, I said I wanted to be with an organization where profit was a byproduct of winning, not the other way around. We have always had the resources and it’s never gotten in the way of making a transaction.

"We are going for it.”

We are going for Kwahi Leonard !!!

 

[Tince]

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/j...s-raises-a-tired-question-whats-the-plan.html

Suggested title: “The Fifth-Place Mind.”

From Noah Vonleh to Meyers Leonard to Evan Turner to Caleb Swanigan to Kent Bazemore to Anthony Tolliver and a host of others. It’s been a parade of so-so solutions. The holes in the roster remain. Guessing and wishing doesn’t get it done. If we’ve learned anything in the last few years, it’s that making small, imperfect moves just doesn’t shift the trajectory of an organization.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/j...s-raises-a-tired-question-whats-the-plan.html

Suggested title: “The Fifth-Place Mind.”

From Noah Vonleh to Meyers Leonard to Evan Turner to Caleb Swanigan to Kent Bazemore to Anthony Tolliver and a host of others. It’s been a parade of so-so solutions. The holes in the roster remain. Guessing and wishing doesn’t get it done. If we’ve learned anything in the last few years, it’s that making small, imperfect moves just doesn’t shift the trajectory of an organization.

Silly.
Turner was a mistake, for sure. But, bringing up min salary guys is dumb.

What's San Antonio's plan? Greg supposed to be awesome, but they've been treading water for a long time. Ditto for many other teams.

 

[Tince]

Silly.
Turner was a mistake, for sure. But, bringing up min salary guys is dumb.

What's San Antonio's plan? Greg supposed to be awesome, but they've been treading water for a long time. Ditto for many other teams.

Turner, Crabbe, Meyers, Harkless, Aminu, Bazemore, Plumlee, DJJ, Roco, Ariza, Curry, Williams... there is a long list of non-minimum guys.

I'm not sure what SAS plan is. Having 2-3 all-stars, including the best PF of all-time seemed like the ideal plan.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Maybe one of my trade targets was not available. This article claims Cavs tuned down offers of multiple late first round pi9cks for Larry Nance. https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021...avaliers-decision-to-reject-trade-offers.html