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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 2 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want yinka dare back!</div>

At least Yinka had his own shoes. Godo Lord, those things were ugly, and that commercial was just awkward to watch lol
 
Actually i think he is a pretty good low post defender...
if he was a second round pick would be alot easier...
 
Well, yes. We do have enough big men. But, ALL are PFs. With Diop gone, and Krstic probably not coming back, our only C is Brook Lopez.
(Yi, Sean, Boone, Stro and Anderson are all PFs, most of them undersized for that even)

I know there are not many great big Cs anymore in the league. But still, every team neads a tough big with size.

We need an enforcer, someone do set great picks, someone to create space inside for VC and DH to drive, and fight if they are hacked.
One of our biggest needs las year was toughness, but now we are far away softer and weaker.

I'm not saying Kwame is the answer, but we need another big body.
Maybe we could redo the trade, and get back Collins for Stro from the wolves.
I'd even think about bringing back Magloire for the veteran's minimum salary. This time we won't expect too much from him, like we did last year.

Any other ideas for a big backup C?
Does anybody think we don't need one?
 
I'd like Kwame if he didn't cost too much. He's a solid rebounder and solid defender, and he isn't as turnover prone as he seems. I wouldn't have him do much on offense, but he would be a decent garbageman. The only problem is he could take some minutes from Boone, who does similar things. Which is why I'd rather keep Krstic. Also Krstic at this point probably has more upside.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DownWithMSG @ Jul 3 2008, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 2 2008, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want yinka dare back!</div>

At least Yinka had his own shoes. Godo Lord, those things were ugly, and that commercial was just awkward to watch lol
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Hahaha I remember that commercial, it was some weird 70's lookin shit with a puma right? God damn he was terrible!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 3 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, yes. We do have enough big men. But, ALL are PFs. With Diop gone, and Krstic probably not coming back, our only C is Brook Lopez.
(Yi, Sean, Boone, Stro and Anderson are all PFs, most of them undersized for that even)

I know there are not many great big Cs anymore in the league. But still, every team neads a tough big with size.

We need an enforcer, someone do set great picks, someone to create space inside for VC and DH to drive, and fight if they are hacked.
One of our biggest needs las year was toughness, but now we are far away softer and weaker.

I'm not saying Kwame is the answer, but we need another big body.
Maybe we could redo the trade, and get back Collins for Stro from the wolves.
I'd even think about bringing back Magloire for the veteran's minimum salary. This time we won't expect too much from him, like we did last year.

Any other ideas for a big backup C?
Does anybody think we don't need one?</div>

The Lakers got to the finals without a natural C, and the Celtics only used one natural C in Perkins. We don't need one....they're turning into more of a luxury than a need.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Lakers got to the finals without a natural C, and the Celtics only used one natural C in Perkins. We don't need one....they're turning into more of a luxury than a need.</div>

The Lakers did lose the finals because of lack of toughness imo.

As soft as Gasol is, he is still way bigger, stronger, tougher and more of an inside presence than anything we have.
Same thing can be said for Turiaf. Mbenga is no baller, but he has black belt in judo, that's what i heard somewhere.. Mihm ain't bad either. Next year they will have that young fella also.
Perkins, Davis, Powe, PJ Brown... even KG. All of them way tougher than anything we have.
We don't have to contend with these teams though


These guys would all help a lot for our frontcourt toughness. Not that they are available though...

But finding just one team, as soft upfront as we are doesn't seam easy to me.

(Our toughest guy is Josh Boone... Hopefully Lopez shows something too, because everyone else is weaksauce. We have many bigs, but we seriously need toughness. Kwame, Collins, even Magloire.. someone has to come IMO )

I know we are not looking to contend, but if we want to win some games a big body on the bench would be nice.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Lakers got to the finals without a natural C, and the Celtics only used one natural C in Perkins. We don't need one....they're turning into more of a luxury than a need.</div>

The Lakers did lose the finals because of lack of toughness imo.

As soft as Gasol is, he is still way bigger, stronger, tougher and more of an inside presence than anything we have.
Same thing can be said for Turiaf. Mbenga is no baller, but he has black belt in judo, that's what i heard somewhere.. Mihm ain't bad either. Next year they will have that young fella also.
Perkins, Davis, Powe, PJ Brown... even KG. All of them way tougher than anything we have.
We don't have to contend with these teams though


These guys would all help a lot for our frontcourt toughness. Not that they are available though...

But finding just one team, as soft upfront as we are doesn't seam easy to me.

(Our toughest guy is Josh Boone... Hopefully Lopez shows something too, because everyone else is weaksauce. We have many bigs, but we seriously need toughness. Kwame, Collins, even Magloire.. someone has to come IMO )

I know we are not looking to contend, but if we want to win some games a big body on the bench would be nice.
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You're overrating everyone. First of all, Mbenga and Mihm barely played in the playoffs.

Davis and Powe aren't really that great. They're good bench players, sure, but I'd be willing to bet that the Nets' bigs could have done a fine job in their place.

Gasol, Perkins, KG, Turiaf are all experience players with plenty of experience. Who's to say Boone, Sean, and Brook can't elevate their toughness as time goes on? Why take a chance on a peice of crap like Kwame when we have plenty of big players who already need playing time? Especially with us not contending.

Getting Kwame just wouldn't make sense. Kwame's not all that tough, anyways.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Lakers got to the finals without a natural C, and the Celtics only used one natural C in Perkins. We don't need one....they're turning into more of a luxury than a need.</div>

The Lakers did lose the finals because of lack of toughness imo.

As soft as Gasol is, he is still way bigger, stronger, tougher and more of an inside presence than anything we have.
Same thing can be said for Turiaf. Mbenga is no baller, but he has black belt in judo, that's what i heard somewhere.. Mihm ain't bad either. Next year they will have that young fella also.
Perkins, Davis, Powe, PJ Brown... even KG. All of them way tougher than anything we have.
We don't have to contend with these teams though


These guys would all help a lot for our frontcourt toughness. Not that they are available though...

But finding just one team, as soft upfront as we are doesn't seam easy to me.

(Our toughest guy is Josh Boone... Hopefully Lopez shows something too, because everyone else is weaksauce. We have many bigs, but we seriously need toughness. Kwame, Collins, even Magloire.. someone has to come IMO )

I know we are not looking to contend, but if we want to win some games a big body on the bench would be nice.
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You're overrating everyone. First of all, Mbenga and Mihm barely played in the playoffs.

Davis and Powe aren't really that great. They're good bench players, sure, but I'd be willing to bet that the Nets' bigs could have done a fine job in their place.

Gasol, Perkins, KG, Turiaf are all experience players with plenty of experience. Who's to say Boone, Sean, and Brook can't elevate their toughness as time goes on? Why take a chance on a peice of crap like Kwame when we have plenty of big players who already need playing time? Especially with us not contending.

Getting Kwame just wouldn't make sense. Kwame's not all that tough, anyways.
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I'm not saying we need to give rotation minutes for this bigtough guy.
I also want to develop the youngsters.
But against the Shaq, Dwight, Al Jefferson, Eddy Curry type offensive monsters, it would be nice to have somebody on the bench, who can give 6 very hard fouls.
None of our guys are capable imo (Maybe Boone)

I know those guys barely played (Mbenga and Mihm). And I'm not saying they would play more for us. But it would help our team win some more games to have someone like that on the bench.
Would help much more than our 4th PF off the bench (Stro, Anderson, or whoever that will be).
 
In all honesty, I hope we sign Kwame Brown. I love him. I want him on the team. I would totally buy his jersey. I wanted the Lakers to trade him to us for Kidd. When I read this, I was in shock. You have no idea how happy I'll be. For some reason, I've always liked him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 3 2008, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fefe @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Lakers got to the finals without a natural C, and the Celtics only used one natural C in Perkins. We don't need one....they're turning into more of a luxury than a need.</div>

The Lakers did lose the finals because of lack of toughness imo.

As soft as Gasol is, he is still way bigger, stronger, tougher and more of an inside presence than anything we have.
Same thing can be said for Turiaf. Mbenga is no baller, but he has black belt in judo, that's what i heard somewhere.. Mihm ain't bad either. Next year they will have that young fella also.
Perkins, Davis, Powe, PJ Brown... even KG. All of them way tougher than anything we have.
We don't have to contend with these teams though


These guys would all help a lot for our frontcourt toughness. Not that they are available though...

But finding just one team, as soft upfront as we are doesn't seam easy to me.

(Our toughest guy is Josh Boone... Hopefully Lopez shows something too, because everyone else is weaksauce. We have many bigs, but we seriously need toughness. Kwame, Collins, even Magloire.. someone has to come IMO )

I know we are not looking to contend, but if we want to win some games a big body on the bench would be nice.
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You're overrating everyone. First of all, Mbenga and Mihm barely played in the playoffs.

Davis and Powe aren't really that great. They're good bench players, sure, but I'd be willing to bet that the Nets' bigs could have done a fine job in their place.

Gasol, Perkins, KG, Turiaf are all experience players with plenty of experience. Who's to say Boone, Sean, and Brook can't elevate their toughness as time goes on? Why take a chance on a peice of crap like Kwame when we have plenty of big players who already need playing time? Especially with us not contending.

Getting Kwame just wouldn't make sense. Kwame's not all that tough, anyways.
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I'm not saying we need to give rotation minutes for this bigtough guy.
I also want to develop the youngsters.
But against the Shaq, Dwight, Al Jefferson, Eddy Curry type offensive monsters, it would be nice to have somebody on the bench, who can give 6 very hard fouls.
None of our guys are capable imo (Maybe Boone)

I know those guys barely played (Mbenga and Mihm). And I'm not saying they would play more for us. But it would help our team win some more games to have someone like that on the bench.
Would help much more than our 4th PF off the bench (Stro, Anderson, or whoever that will be).
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If you want Sean, Brook, and Josh to develop into good defensive players, throw them against Shaq, Dwight, Al, and Eddy. Let them get some experience, and learn how to guard them.

Once again, it's not like we're expecting to win much. I see no problem with sticking with the big men that we have, and allowing them to develop into solid players.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 3 2008, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you want Sean, Brook, and Josh to develop into good defensive players, throw them against Shaq, Dwight, Al, and Eddy. Let them get some experience, and learn how to guard them.

Once again, it's not like we're expecting to win much. I see no problem with sticking with the big men that we have, and allowing them to develop into solid players.</div>

I think our opinions are not that far apart.
I'm ok if we go into next season with our current bigs.

I'm just saying I can understand the concept of bringing in Kwame. he would be useful
Right now our center rotation is Lopez, Boone, Sean. maybe Stro.
Yi and Anderson are not capable.
Actually Sean and Stro arent very capable either at C imo.

Lopez and Boone can do fine though
 
We're not getting Kwame!!! Detroit signed him!!!


 
hey maybe he can be the next ben wallace for them... hes big enough and athletic enough to be that guy for them... look at ben wallace now
he hasnt really done anythin since he left the pistons... maybe the pistons ( with billups, rip, tayshaun, sheed --- ) help kwame become the best nba player he can be... and utilize his strenghts ( defense and boards ) rather than make him a low post threat in the triangle offense ala lakers
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jul 2 2008, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we don't need Brown. pass.
Pargo or Pietrus, of course aren't big guys, but I'd take them.
would it be possible for a S&T of Boki + Marcus for JR Smith?</div>
ur kidding...... right??
 
Not a bad pickup at all by Detroit..He can play center for them next to Rasheed instead of the aging, undersized McDyess who has been forced to play out of position with the departure of Ben two seasons ago. They signed him to a reasonable contract so this is one of those low risk high reward situations. If all works out for them Kwame and Maxiell could eventually replace Wallace and McDyess longterm whilst in the rotation of McDyess, Wallace, Brown and Maxiell provide solid front court depth in the short term. Solid move by them I could see him playing relatively well in Detroit and possibly surpass expectations coming in as he has been a big disappointment since signing that big deal with LA when they traded Caron Butler for him in 2005.
 
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