Religion Never let an incident go to waste!

[H.C.]

key point: nobody is saying knives aren't dangerous. so stop with the 'yeah but they can slash a throat'. We get it. Knives = bad.

But a kid walks into a school with an AR15 or whatever thing they have and start firing vs. a knife. The fact this is a debate is unreal.

It's not even a debate.
These people are stating a fact.
Bad/Evil people who want to hurt others will do so regardless of it being a gun, knife, bomb, whatever. If they want to do evil. They'll succeed.

Then we have people on the otherside unwilling to admitt that guns aren't the only things that kill people.

Then you have people who just want the killing to stop. They want everyone to stop arguging bullshit, stop the posturing... They just want the killing to fucking stop.
But no, it won't due to the first two groups of people too busy focusing on fighting one another. Instead of focusing on what really matters.
STOPPING PEOPLE FROM DYING.

 

[H.C.]

Sorry if the facts get in your way.

You imagine things. In real life they don't turn out the way you imagine.

Tough shit.

Like the fact that you had to go outside the US to find people using melee weapons successfully in school stabbings?
The fact that you felt the need to be just like CNN/FNN and leave out a certain fact in order to 'win'?

Go ban yourself.

 

[Denny Crane]

https://nypost.com/2017/10/24/stop-...ing-metal-detectors-in-all-city-high-schools/

Stop school killings – by putting metal detectors in all city high schools

Three students, three families ripped apart. One student is dead, one critically wounded and the other awaits trial.

Yet, at a recent community meeting with Mayor de Blasio, Chancellor Carmen Fariña and what was termed “parent leadership,” the horrific incident involving a fatal stabbing and a critical wounding inside a Bronx school of two students by another student, who claimed he’d been bullied by the two for a long time, never touched on a core question: How did a knife get into a classroom?

The mayor and chancellor did not seem particularly interested in answering that, nor in supporting proven ways to improve school safety: adding metal detectors and removing barriers to intervention by school safety agents.

 

[MarAzul]

Another post not worth reading.
Do everyone a favor and ban yourself.

Ha!
You finally made me laugh!.

 

[Nate]

It's not even a debate.
These people are stating a fact.
Bad/Evil people who want to hurt others will do so regardless of it being a gun, knife, bomb, whatever. If they want to do evil. They'll succeed.

Then we have people on the otherside unwilling to admitt that guns aren't the only things that kill people.

Then you have people who just want the killing to stop. They want everyone to stop arguging bullshit, stop the posturing... They just want the killing to fucking stop.
But no, it won't due to the first two groups of people too busy focusing on fighting one another. Instead of focusing on what really matters.
STOPPING PEOPLE FROM DYING.

So stop making retarded arguments about guns then lol.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

In a crowded hallway/store/festival/anything- I’m slashing at least 10 throats before anybody realizes what’s going on. After that, I’m pretty fucking big and athletic, I can chase down and stab in the throat just about anybody that isn’t a track athlete.

Anybody that try’s stopping me better have a way bigger knife, or a gun.

I would have been able to do that from middle school onwards.


Its also hilarious that you think it would be so easy to just grab someone with a knife without catching a few stabs or slices and getting yourself killed lol.

We should try it out, and I’ll use a fork instead.

Having met you I could see what you are talking about but since we're making generalizations I would put you firmly in the stopping a knife attack rather than starting one group. As El Pres likes to point out most of these shooters are aspys, geeks, wimps, nerds, democrats. Your average high school shooter seems like too much of a bitch to try and knife someone and they are hardly as big and self assured as you are. So I would argue that the Nate's of this world are very unlikely to snap and start stabbing people.

So even if you could kill your entire school with a toothpick I'm still going to put you on the good guy list.

Now knowing the Nates in school are going to do the right thing in an attack and that you are a self admitted badass I think you could disarm an angry geek with a knife. Might get a little cut up but I believe in you. But a geek with a gun? That I'm not so sure about. I think a geek with a gun is going to take you out.

But let's say we have an angry Nate with a knife that goes up against badass Nate without a knife. I still think Good Nate is going to at the very least slow down Angry Nate. Slow down enough to get others to help and at the very least to allow more whimpy'er kids to get out of harm's way.

Angry aspy nerd with a gun will do more damage than angry aspy nerd with a knife.

 

[Denny Crane]

Like the fact that you had to go outside the US to find people using melee weapons successfully in school stabbings?
The fact that you felt the need to be just like CNN/FNN and leave out a certain fact in order to 'win'?

Go ban yourself.

If the facts were on your side, I'd say so.

And I did talk about the incidence of knife attacks being much higher in other nations with stricter limits on personal liberty.

 

[H.C.]

Just another sheep with no experience, talking like he knows how to kill wolves.

that's all you got? Calling me a sheep because I said you were living in your own little world thinking you are so much more athletic than the average oregonian?
Sad.
You are fake news.

 

[H.C.]

If the facts were on your side, I'd say so.

And I did talk about the incidence of knife attacks being much higher in other nations with stricter limits on personal liberty.

Nice Spin.
Bye now.
You should make it so blocking site admins is a thing.
But being that you have yet to fix my account since the 3 on 3 tourney... Seems like you're too busy spinning fakenews than actually running the official blazer forum.
Good thing sly got those new members.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2018/02/gov_kay_ivey_sen_doug_jones_in.html

Gov. Kay Ivey, Sen. Doug Jones: Install metal detectors at schools

Installing metal detectors at the entrance of public schools could be one way to protect students and employees from mass shootings, two of the state's top politicians said Monday.

In separate appearances in Mobile, Alabama Republican Gov. Kay Ivey and Democratic U.S. Senator Doug Jones both said that metal detectors should be a solution toward curbing school violence.

"We need to go through metal detectors to go through airports," Ivey said during a campaign kickoff event outside GulfQuest Maritime Museum. "Maybe that ought to be a start."

Said Jones, during a visit to Bishop State Community College: "We got used to going on airplanes by going through metal detectors. People complained about it. People complained about 911. People now appreciate it. You see fewer and fewer instances (of domestic airline terrorism). I think we'll have to do that with schools."

 

[calvin natt]

How about we do the obvious and prevent kids from walking into schools with guns and knives and flamethrowers?

If Disneyland can do it without freaking the parents and kids out, the schools can too.

The fact that this is a debate is unreal and speaks to poor judgement and ideas.

I agree, 100%. Secure the schools better.

 

[Denny Crane]

Nice Spin.
Bye now.
You should make it so blocking site admins is a thing.
But being that you have yet to fix my account since the 3 on 3 tourney... Seems like you're too busy spinning fakenews than actually running the official blazer forum.
Good thing sly got those new members.

Like I said, the facts aren't on your side. Getting all in a huff won't change that. Ignoring me won't either.

 

[H.C.]

Like I said, the facts aren't on your side. Getting all in a huff won't change that. Ignoring me won't either.

Reason why I want to ignore you, is the following.

No matter what anyone says to you. You always believe you're right.
If someone catches you in something like I did yesterday. You straight ignore it and wait to come back in the discussion when you think you can 'catch the person who caught you'. Then you repeat, repeat, and repeat until the person stops replying.
You're not looking to have a discussion, not looking to have a conversation.
All you want to do is be the loudest in the room.

People who want to be the loudest in the room like you. Are just not worth my time, and the sooner they pass(may they rest in peace) the sooner this world will be a better place.

 

[Denny Crane]

Chicago has been the gun murder capital of the world a few times.

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/op-ed/article200714414.html

Contest school shootings with metal detectors, not bias

During a fit of frustration with me, my ninth-grade algebra teacher let it slip that my name was on a list of students who could “commit a Columbine.” It was less than a week after what was then the deadliest school shooting in America.

Since then, this country has endured Sandy Hook and dozens of other horrific shooting incidents, the most recent being this week at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

Because I grew up and attended Chicago Public Schools, there was an expectation that a school shooting of this magnitude could occur at an inner-city high school. Yet it never happened at my high school and one reason is we had metal detectors.

 

[MarAzul]

Having met you I could see what you are talking about but since we're making generalizations I would put you firmly in the stopping a knife attack rather than starting one group. As El Pres likes to point out most of these shooters are aspys, geeks, wimps, nerds, democrats. Your average high school shooter seems like too much of a bitch to try and knife someone and they are hardly as big and self assured as you are. So I would argue that the Nate's of this world are very unlikely to snap and start stabbing people.

So even if you could kill your entire school with a toothpick I'm still going to put you on the good guy list.

Now knowing the Nates in school are going to do the right thing in an attack and that you are a self admitted badass I think you could disarm an angry geek with a knife. Might get a little cut up but I believe in you. But a geek with a gun? That I'm not so sure about. I think a geek with a gun is going to take you out.

But let's say we have an angry Nate with a knife that goes up against badass Nate without a knife. I still think Good Nate is going to at the very least slow down Angry Nate. Slow down enough to get others to help and at the very least to allow more whimpy'er kids to get out of harm's way.

Angry aspy nerd with a gun will do more damage than angry aspy nerd with a knife.

I find Nerds useful. I was introduced once as the Chief Nerd. It has a ring to it!

 

[Denny Crane]

Reason why I want to ignore you, is the following.

No matter what anyone says to you. You always believe you're right.
If someone catches you in something like I did yesterday. You straight ignore it and wait to come back in the discussion when you think you can 'catch the person who caught you'. Then you repeat, repeat, and repeat until the person stops replying.
You're not looking to have a discussion, not looking to have a conversation.
All you want to do is be the loudest in the room.

People who want to be the loudest in the room like you. Are just not worth my time, and the sooner they pass(may they rest in peace) the sooner this world will be a better place.

I believe in the facts, not my imagination. When I'm posting about imagining something, I say so.

 

[Nate]

Having met you I could see what you are talking about but since we're making generalizations I would put you firmly in the stopping a knife attack rather than starting one group. As El Pres likes to point out most of these shooters are aspys, geeks, wimps, nerds, democrats. Your average high school shooter seems like too much of a bitch to try and knife someone and they are hardly as big and self assured as you are. So I would argue that the Nate's of this world are very unlikely to snap and start stabbing people.

So even if you could kill your entire school with a toothpick I'm still going to put you on the good guy list.

Now knowing the Nates in school are going to do the right thing in an attack and that you are a self admitted badass I think you could disarm an angry geek with a knife. Might get a little cut up but I believe in you. But a geek with a gun? That I'm not so sure about. I think a geek with a gun is going to take you out.

But let's say we have an angry Nate with a knife that goes up against badass Nate without a knife. I still think Good Nate is going to at the very least slow down Angry Nate. Slow down enough to get others to help and at the very least to allow more whimpy'er kids to get out of harm's way.

Angry aspy nerd with a gun will do more damage than angry aspy nerd with a knife.

I bet any of those kids could have gotten any illegal drug they wanted, and I also bet most of them could have gotten at least a couple illegal guns. If they couldn’t find a gun on the black market, and they couldn’t find one legally...

Hopefully they give up and start burning frogs alive; so they don’t figure out how easy it is to blow stuff up and set homes on fire.

 

[riverman]

we had metal detectors.

I think metal detectors are a good safeguard...I don't think anyone disagrees with this..or gated security at schools...my point is having guns IN the schools would be a big mistake...it's that simple...lot of high school kids know how to steal school property.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think metal detectors are a good safeguard...I don't think anyone disagrees with this..or gated security at schools...my point is having guns IN the schools would be a big mistake...it's that simple.

You need to look at who is actively trying to defeat the idea.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/09/when-school-feels-like-prison/499556/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-troubled-schools_us_59d217d9e4b0f58902e5cddf

 

[MarAzul]

big mistake...it's that simple.

It will be fixed soon I think. Maintaining Killing Zones does not make sense.

 

[H.C.]

I believe in the facts, not my imagination. When I'm posting about imagining something, I say so.

Facts huh?
Your facts are like CNN/FNN.
Half truths.

 

[Denny Crane]

Facts huh?
Your facts are like CNN/FNN.
Half truths.

What is the issue with your account that I supposedly didn't fix?

 

[Nate]

Anybody ever read the Anarchist Cookbook?

That was being passed around my group of friends in 6th grade.

It shows you many ways to kill/dismember people with everyday items.

 

[Denny Crane]

Facts huh?
Your facts are like CNN/FNN.
Half truths.

A fact is "knife attack in China kills 20"

Imagination is "guy with knife will be subdued before he can kill 20."

 

[DaLincolnJones]

You need to look at who is actively trying to defeat the idea.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/09/when-school-feels-like-prison/499556/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...-troubled-schools_us_59d217d9e4b0f58902e5cddf

This rhetoric really pisses mo off. The left screams that "Some thing must be done!", but when a sensible solution comes into play, they refuse to do anything . All they want is to scream to the havens that the only solution is their agenda that removes guns, period.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I believe we are 5 years away from automated taser drone bots from being tested and 10 years from them being implemented in schools and public places. The drone just flies into a fucker and discharges, maybe include a dye pack like they use for bank robbers. Facial recognition and RFID tech would prevent 1st responders from being attacked.

 

[MarAzul]

This rhetoric really pisses mo off. The left screams that "Some thing must be done!", but when a sensible solution comes into play, they refuse to do anything . All they want is to scream to the havens that the only solution is their agenda that removes guns, period.

It shows that "Feeling" do not have priorities. Just a scale of intensity.
The score for hated of Guns is overwhelming the score for the sorrow of killing children. Being Illogical does not enter the process.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I believe we are 5 years away from automated taser drone bots from being tested and 10 years from them being implemented in schools and public places. The drone just flies into a fucker and discharges, maybe include a dye pack like they use for bank robbers. Facial recognition and RFID tech would prevent 1st responders from being attacked.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I believe we are 5 years away from automated taser drone bots from being tested and 10 years from them being implemented in schools and public places. The drone just flies into a fucker and discharges, maybe include a dye pack like they use for bank robbers. Facial recognition and RFID tech would prevent 1st responders from being attacked.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

It shows that "Feeling" do not have priorities. Just a scale of intensity.
The score for hated of Guns is overwhelming the score for the sorrow of killing children. Being Illogical does not enter the process.

yeah...I know. I want to see a solution to the problem. When politics is more important than children's lives, it is time to change the politicians.