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There is one thing these two new hires have in common they could become HC's and both would come pretty cheap since one is a retread that has a history that might sign cheaper just for a second chance at the head job and the other has no HC experience but has shown in a super small sample size he might be able to do it. I am not saying Jody is a cheap skate -- NM -- I am she is a damn cheap skate and this screams of cheap down the line when looking for Billups replacement.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I nominate Fleming as our next Head Coach - he has a 100% NBA win rate and is a LEGEND in Germany!
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I'm good with this. Bring him in as an assistant and when he's ready get rid of Billups and promote him.

Or maybe you promote Billups to a management position. I'd be fine with that.
 
illmatic99 said:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...tenure-of-indiana-pacers-coach-nate-bjorkgren

I was referencing his conflicts with the players and staff. They all hated him apparently and found his personality grating.

I don't really care much but he's first in line as the interim HC for Chauncey in a lame duck year. Very real chance he becomes the head guy
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Possibly but just as possible, it would only be as an interim.

That was a good article you linked. Not exactly a warm and fuzzy guy, but on the flip side maybe that is something Nate feels that he needs on the staff.

This small part of the article might be a positive:

The positive energy Bjorkgren brought to his interview process did seem to translate into Indiana's early training camp. Players initially responded well to Bjorkgren getting after them on defense and hounding guys for greater intensity, sources said. While some head coaches sit back during preseason practices and observe, Bjorkgren was front and center.

"He was directing it, yelling in a positive 'rah-rah' clapping way. He wasn't afraid to jump in a drill if he needed to," said another Indiana staffer. "Everyone was saying he was the most utmost positive person. It was infectious."

With the team's 6-2 start, all seemed to be going well. After a thrilling 108-107 win over Boston moved Indiana to 3-0 on the young season, Sabonis told reporters that Bjorkgren was "a genius. He knows the game, and trusts us." Added Malcolm Brogdon: "We've got a coach that motivates us, great with the X's and O's, stays calm. We feed off of him."
 
[QUOTE="Ripcity4life77, post: 5675320, member: 29149" I am not saying Jody is a cheap skate -- NM -- I am she is a damn cheap skate and this screams of cheap down the line when looking for Billups replacement.[/QUOTE]

Yet we have a high payroll, and she just added a G league team. I don't really have an issue with her being cheap with coaches...if she actually is.
 
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illmatic99 said:
It's an assumption as lead assistants *usually* get the nod as interim or replacement. Perhaps I'm overthinking.
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No, good point. I missed the *lead* somehow.

I actually really like these coaching hires.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yet we have a high payroll, and she just added a G league team. I don't really have an issue with her being cheap with coaches...if she actually is.
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None of these things you list matter much.... I mean eventually coaches might when the Blazers try to win but now its pretty irrelevant.

The problem with Jody/Vulcan is shipping out NBA roster assets primarily to duck the luxury tax in trades for many years going back to shortly after Paul died. Paul was the opposite - he would send out cash and take on salary to gain talent on the roster.

Maybe you don't care either way - fine whatever. I loved the SPAM era when we were paying $100 million for that 2000 era roster - thats probably equivalent to $300 million today. That was our one advantage over the glamor markets. Even the later years with Paul I had faith if we got to a point the team needed to fork over large tax bills to win we'd do it. Now I have zero faith in ownership being able to push that cash in to win if we ever get to the point that could make a difference.
 
RR7 said:
I guess this means Chauncey will be here this season. Wouldn't likely hire assistants and THEN move the HC.
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This fits with my theory. It took this long for Billups to realize for certain that no established team wanted him for head coach so he is stuck with the tanking team.
 
Idk about a playoff push, even though I’m sure the team never intends to lose.

I figure the goal is to try to establish a winning culture amongst with our young core. Good habits for future seasons when they have the experience to compete.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This fits with my theory. It took this long for Billups to realize for certain that no established team wanted him for head coach so he is stuck with the tanking team.
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Do you think Billups could listen to other teams coaching offers?

The Blazers did not allow Phoenix permission to talk with Billups.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This fits with my theory. It took this long for Billups to realize for certain that no established team wanted him for head coach so he is stuck with the tanking team.
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Is it coincidental that the Cavs announced their coach today?
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Do you think Billups could listen to other teams coaching offers?

The Blazers did not allow Phoenix permission to talk with Billups.
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How do you know this?

Im sure Portland would allow Billups to pursue another position as long as Blazers get compensation
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Do you think Billups could listen to other teams coaching offers?

The Blazers did not allow Phoenix permission to talk with Billups.
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I think he would. And I still don't think it's been confirmed that Blazers wouldn't geive Phoenix permission.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Maybe we need one hardass on the staff. I wonder if they consulted with Brogdon (who played for him at Indiana) before the hire?
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Terrible hire. Going off memory, Brogdon might have been one of many players who had an issue with Bjorkgren. I know TJ Warren hated him for sure and Nick Nurse eventually came to dislike him over time. He likes to undermine the head coach and micro-manage the players. Guy also has some sort of intermittent explosive personality disorder.
 
MarinerDNA said:
Terrible hire. Going off memory, Brogdon might have been one of many players who had an issue with Bjorkgren. I know TJ Warren hated him for sure and Nick Nurse eventually came to dislike him over time. He likes to undermine the head coach and micro-manage the players. Guy also has some sort of intermittent explosive personality disorder.
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That sucks.
 
So I read this thread and I'm confused on whether these are good or bad hires? Figured I would ask all of you knowledgeable people about where we stand at this point?
 
MarinerDNA -- you might be remembering correctly but you might not but one thing for sure is he has warts but he is a very good coach at least on the X's and O's side of things. All we can do is hope that he learned his lessons from his past mistakes but I am ok with the hire cause nothing else has worked so far. This is why I would have just preferred to let Billups go and start over specially with 2 new lotto picks ( prolly - assuming no trades ) coming into the fold but we did not so we are where we are.
 
MarinerDNA said:
Terrible hire. Going off memory, Brogdon might have been one of many players who had an issue with Bjorkgren. I know TJ Warren hated him for sure and Nick Nurse eventually came to dislike him over time. He likes to undermine the head coach and micro-manage the players. Guy also has some sort of intermittent explosive personality disorder.
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Crap

Just what we need, yet another reason players aren't going to want to be here.
 
Is Bjorkgren, Fleming, and Burrell better than Brooks, Billups, and Hetzel?
 
Chris Craig said:
Is Bjorkgren, Fleming, and Burrell better than Brooks, Billups, and Hetzel?
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Honestly have no clue. I'm assuming most are better than Billups' brother. Did he have any experience before coming here? I've never liked Brooks as a head coach, but figure it's good to have a vet voice for a young coach, so was likely good to have him here early. After 4 seasons, maybe not as important? It's funny that Hetzel went to Brooklyn to replace Burrell(Amongst others), and Burrell is coming here to replace Hetzel.
 
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