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It's only one game and means almsot nothing but it's interesting to look at.

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Mason Plumlee --7 points, 6 rebounds, 0 blocks and 6 assists
Robin Lopez ------8 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and 0 assists

Meyers Leonard -----12 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block and 3 assists
LaMarcus Aldridge -11 points, 5 rebounds, 1 block and 1 assist

Al Farouq Aminu--9 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 0 assists
Nicolas Batum -----9 poins, 6 rebounds, 0 blocks and 3 assists (3-12 shooting)

CJ McCollum -----37 points, 6 rebounds, 0 blocks and 1 assist
Wes Matthews ----9 points, 3 rebounds, 0 blocks and 1 assist

Ed Davis ---------12 points, 11 rebounds, 0 blocks and 0 assists (6-7 shooting. No blocks but altered shots)
Julius Randle --15 points, 11 rebounds, 0 blocks and 2 assists. (5-13 shooting)
Not an ex-Blazer but Davis's replacement in Los Angeles for comparison
 
It is not just changing players, it is getting the right players for each other and developing chemistry. By doing a major change rather than changing just a few players, Olshey has provided for an entirely new brew rather than just a variation on the old brew.

So far, liking the new brew. :)

Gramps...
 
Even since early-summer I liked the talent that we accumulated - I've since thought that we have a stronger roster. Finally seeing them play last night I'm now convinced. I'm still not convinced by the system. But if we had Jerry Sloan coaching this team I think he could take us to the 2nd round - the talent is there, but the plays aren't.
 
Good to see Wesley healthy.

I have pretty much come full circle from my views over the Summer. Ripping the bandaid off works for me. Obviously we're not as good as we looked in that game (we're not a championship contender), and I worry that even at 30 points up we had Lillard and McCollum playing 37 minutes, but Stotts has them playing well, and my opinion of Olshey has gone up drastically. Now we have to work out how to become a contender without getting a top 5 pick...
 
I might call Brandon Bass the LAL replacement; a big signed in free agency. They likely keep Davis for similar if they offer him a contract July 1st instead of jerking off Aldridge.
Brandon Bass - 2 points, 6 rebounds, 0 blocks, 0 assists, 1-4 shooting

Mo Harkless - 8 points, 4 rebounds, 1 block, 0 assist, 3-6 shooting 2-3 threes
Aaron Afflalo - 0 points, 0 rebounds , 0 blocks, 0 assists
 
People say Gentry is making their offense way better. Well Davis IMO, should not be encourage to take long jumpers when he can be so great in the post. It's kinda like Stotts trying to turn LMA into Dirk.

Yeah, take the most dominant young player in the league and turn him into Matt Bonner. Even if he keeps shooting above 35% 3 pointers opponents will be glad to get him away from the hoop where he makes everything.
 
Player - ORtg / DRtg

Mason Plumlee - 162 / 96
Robin Lopez - 111 / 114

Meyers Leonard - 100 / 92
LaMarcus Aldridge - 95 / 117

Al-Farouq Aminu - 80 / 88 (!)
Nic Batum - 72 / 115

CJ McCollum - 156 / 95
Wes Matthews - 113 / 94

I love small sample sizes :lol:

Ok I know small sample size and also not a just trotting out every player, but

Damian - 99/92
Ed Davis - 182/91
 
Even since early-summer I liked the talent that we accumulated - I've since thought that we have a stronger roster. Finally seeing them play last night I'm now convinced. I'm still not convinced by the system. But if we had Jerry Sloan coaching this team I think he could take us to the 2nd round - the talent is there, but the plays aren't.

I've had my doubts about stotts too. But, just like I am with the team, I am holding out for a larger sample size (with stotts and this group). I think it's only fair to not hold a team to expectations of a 43 point (22 from CJ) first quarter every time. I have a gut feeling we're gonna see a lot of 22 point TEAM quarters... but, I will still hold out for a larger sample size.
 
All very small sample sizes and against a NOLA team that was short-handed but you have to like the athletic ability, the improved quickness and the improved passion outside of what Wes brought.

On the 'suspect' side, if they you thought they lived and died by the jumper before, this team is double that. No inside offense whatsoever except what is created from the threat of the outside shot and then attacking the basket. I saw one (1) post-up all night long with Ed Davis converted over/around Anthony Davis. Hopefully as Vonleh gets more comfortable and Meyers learns, they can take advantage of mismatches. Towards the end, they were switching a guard onto Meyers, Vonleh and Davis and the Blazers weren't making them pay at the rim.
 
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! LETS BE REAL!

The current Blazers are more flowing, faster, together, tougher and with better leadership. Last group was a mirage and I feel bad that I actually ever believed in them. I feel like a chump for thinking that fielded team was any good.
 
All very small sample sizes and against a NOLA team that was short-handed but you have to like the athletic ability, the improved quickness and the improved passion outside of what Wes brought.

On the 'suspect' side, if they you thought they lived and died by the jumper before, this team is double that. No inside offense whatsoever except what is created from the threat of the outside shot and then attacking the basket. I saw one (1) post-up all night long with Ed Davis converted over/around Anthony Davis. Hopefully as Vonleh gets more comfortable and Meyers learns, they can take advantage of mismatches. Towards the end, they were switching a guard onto Meyers, Vonleh and Davis and the Blazers weren't making them pay at the rim.

It requires a lot of lineup management to get the best out of this team quarter to quarter, but a lineup of bombers and offensive rebounders can really clean up.
 
It's only one game and means almsot nothing but it's interesting to look at.

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Ed Davis ---------12 points, 11 rebounds, 0 blocks and 0 assists (6-7 shooting. No blocks but altered shots)
Julius Randle --15 points, 11 rebounds, 0 blocks and 2 assists. (5-13 shooting)
Not an ex-Blazer but Davis's replacement in Los Angeles for comparison

Great work TBpup. I would actually add that Ed Davis should be compared to our back up PF's/C's from last year.
(which rotated quite a bit last year) Great all around game for a starter, let alone a bench player.

I would keep Plumlee in the starting lineup though. 6 assists from our center is huge.
 
I would keep Plumlee in the starting lineup though. 6 assists from our center is huge.

Yep, and he did that in limited minutes due to foul trouble. I like the flow when Plumee is in the game.

BNM
 
The difference between last year to this year is a 2-trick pony verses a stable of mustangs. The Blazers of old were very plodding and mastered the half court. This new Blazer version are all runners - even our bigs are bringing up the ball pushing the tempo. While this Blazer fan's expectations are still tempered, I love this new look team. EVERYONE is hustling at both ends of the court and there is no let up to the hustle when the 2nd unit filters in. I'd much rather win 25 games with pure hustle than more with a slowed up, aging group.
 
It requires a lot of lineup management to get the best out of this team quarter to quarter, but a lineup of bombers and offensive rebounders can really clean up.
A few well-designed screens/cuts can make up for a lack of a low-post presence. Sloan! Sloan! Sloan! At least pay him to be a consultant. :)
 
The difference between last year to this year is a 2-trick pony verses a stable of mustangs. The Blazers of old were very plodding and mastered the half court. This new Blazer version are all runners - even our bigs are bringing up the ball pushing the tempo. While this Blazer fan's expectations are still tempered, I love this new look team. EVERYONE is hustling at both ends of the court and there is no let up to the hustle when the 2nd unit filters in. I'd much rather win 25 games with pure hustle than more with a slowed up, aging group.

It could be fun to see the starters minutes down closer to 25-30 so all the guys have plenty of energy to run the whole game.
 
I think there was a better thread on this but couldn't find it. Anyway, just noticed that LaMarcus had 5 blocks last night. Maybe he could have been encouraged more to do that here?
 

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