new hominid species?

[Eastoff]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-03-24-15-36-05

Their title is misleading, but basically someone found a pinky bone of a possibly young new hominid species in siberia, they ran some mitochondrial dna tests and it didn't look Human or Neanderthal. They are now trying to map the full genome I believe. So we have ogres, (Neanderthals), humans, and hobbits (se asia), and now what are these trolls? elves? I like to wonder if maybe there was more to ancient folklore than we modern civilized people believe.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

OH MY GOD. MIDDLE EARTH IS ABOUT TO UPRISE!!!!

 

[Vacant.]

Mate... This just tripped me out.

 

[Denny Crane]

The difference in DNA among any two human beings on the earth is so small that scientists believe there was some catastrophic event that wiped out (millions) all but a few (thousand) human beings and that we all are descendants of those few. This is true of the DNA difference between an aboriginal and the queen of england, as it is for any two people.

 

[Vacant.]

The difference in DNA among any two human beings on the earth is so small that scientists believe there was some catastrophic event that wiped out (millions) all but a few (thousand) human beings and that we all are descendants of those few. This is true of the DNA difference between an aboriginal and the queen of england, as it is for any two people.

Still, imagine if Tolkien knew something we don't!

 

[Eastoff]

The difference in DNA among any two human beings on the earth is so small that scientists believe there was some catastrophic event that wiped out (millions) all but a few (thousand) human beings and that we all are descendants of those few. This is true of the DNA difference between an aboriginal and the queen of england, as it is for any two people.

Well they also tried to make a statement it appears that the date of these bones implies a migration out of Africa tens of thousands of years earlier than previously thought.

 

[RR7]

I imagine if you took a large group of ignorant people, you could get about as many to believe Tolkein's books are factual history as you can that the bible is.

 

[MARIS61]

I imagine if you took a large group of ignorant people, you could get about as many to believe Tolkein's books are factual history as you can that the bible is.

Middle Earth is certainly far closer to reality than the bible.

 

[Eastoff]

Middle Earth is certainly far closer to reality than the bible.

A ring that turns people invisible!? that's crazy talk!
http://www.kptv.com/technology/22879433/detail.html

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Wait, we're not divine beings?

 

[speeds]

New HOAX you mean. New scientific conspiracy to drive us further from Him.

 

[Eastoff]

New HOAX you mean. New scientific conspiracy to drive us further from Him.

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why wouldn't you want to be further away from Him?

 

[Eastoff]

The tests are in! We got another cousin! That's 3 now. (Neanderthals, floresiensis hobbit, and now this)

edit: I got so excited I forgot to post the link
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-12-22-15-22-47

By comparing the DNA to that of modern populations, scientists found evidence that these "Denisovans" from more than 30,000 years ago ranged all across Asia. They apparently interbred with the ancestors of people now living in Melanesia, a group of islands northeast of Australia.

 

[crandc]

The tests are in! We got another cousin! That's 3 now. (Neanderthals, floresiensis hobbit, and now this)

edit: I got so excited I forgot to post the link
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-12-22-15-22-47

Serious comment: I saw the article and look forward to reading more. Shows how much more interesting real science is than creationist "god did it end of story" fake science.

Jocular comment: Is this another gay cousin? At least half my cousins, both sides of the family, are LGBT. Always room for one more!

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

http://www.katu.com/news/national/112514309.html

Researchers: Discovery could change thinking on origin of humans

 

[speeds]

There have been a lot of great discoveries recently, hopefully they hold up.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

THe "new third human" went extinct when the cave people repealed their version of DADT.

 

[MARIS61]

Seems like "evidence from comparing DNA" is taken as some sort of proof positive of all kinds of things nowadays, when all it really gives us is hints, clues, and indications.

If the average layman actually understood DNA and the many ways results can be manipulated and transformed, nobody would try to pass it off as evidence of anything important. Since the general public is ignorant, DNA is used just like the bible is used to support whatever view is wanted.

 

[MARIS61]

"It's very exciting to come to this conclusion," said archaeologist Avi Gopher, whose team examined the teeth with X-rays and CT scans and dated them according to the layers of earth where they were found.

Here's an example of lazy science.

Depending on the geology of the region, using this methoid could miscalculate the age of the remains by tens of thousands of years or more. All that would have to happen is a flood, an earthquake fault, or even ceremonial burial, and the remains would be found in much older layers of earth.

 

[Eastoff]

Seems like "evidence from comparing DNA" is taken as some sort of proof positive of all kinds of things nowadays, when all it really gives us is hints, clues, and indications.

If the average layman actually understood DNA and the many ways results can be manipulated and transformed, nobody would try to pass it off as evidence of anything important. Since the general public is ignorant, DNA is used just like the bible is used to support whatever view is wanted.

I didn't realize you gathered so much knowledge about DNA when selling those murder victim homes.

 

[Eastoff]

"It's very exciting to come to this conclusion," said archaeologist Avi Gopher, whose team examined the teeth with X-rays and CT scans and dated them according to the layers of earth where they were found.

Here's an example of lazy science.

Depending on the geology of the region, using this methoid could miscalculate the age of the remains by tens of thousands of years or more. All that would have to happen is a flood, an earthquake fault, or even ceremonial burial, and the remains would be found in much older layers of earth.

The paper I read suggested the dating was based off nearby animal remains in the cave.

 

[Eastoff]

THe "new third human" went extinct when the cave people repealed their version of DADT.

actually new evidence shows they were breeding with the other hominid species the whole time. Now am I talking about Neanderthals and Humans or rednecks and homosexuals?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

actually new evidence shows they were breeding with the other hominid species the whole time. Now am I talking about Neanderthals and Humans or rednecks and homosexuals?

Sounds like an orgy.

 

[barfo]

"It's very exciting to come to this conclusion," said archaeologist Avi Gopher, whose team examined the teeth with X-rays and CT scans and dated them according to the layers of earth where they were found.

Sometimes people are just really well suited for their profession.

barfo

 

[Colonel Ronan]

This thread sucks.

 

[Further]

Seems like "evidence from comparing DNA" is taken as some sort of proof positive of all kinds of things nowadays, when all it really gives us is hints, clues, and indications.

If the average layman actually understood DNA and the many ways results can be manipulated and transformed, nobody would try to pass it off as evidence of anything important. Since the general public is ignorant, DNA is used just like the bible is used to support whatever view is wanted.

Although technically you are correct that all DNA gives us is "hints, clues, and indications", they are very strong hints, clues and indications and can paint a very trustful picture. The fact is, that in science nothing is ever proven, only disproven, so hints are all you get. If you get hints that are repeatable then you have a hypothesis to test, and over time if the hypothesis can't be disproven, then we start to believe the hypothesis. But, that hypothesis is never actually proven.

As someone who works in a microbiology lab, I will say that DNA is not used as the bible. At least in the vast majority of occasions. DNA in a scientific setting is used to provide a specific result via experiments. The results of the experiment provides the data, not the hypothesis.

 

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[julius]

ha! genius. bump old threads instead of new threads.

 

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this has to be performance art

 

[MARIS61]

The difference in DNA among any two human beings on the earth is so small that scientists believe there was some catastrophic event that wiped out (millions) all but a few (thousand) human beings and that we all are descendants of those few. This is true of the DNA difference between an aboriginal and the queen of england, as it is for any two people.

Poor example, as I'm fairly certain the queen of England IS an aboriginal.