New Houses in Old neighborhoods

[oldfisherman]

The house next door to mine has sold 3 times in the last 2 years.

The first time when the older gentleman passed away that had lived there for 50+(?) years. His son sold it to a speculator. A couple of months later the speculator sold it to a flipper that remolded it (using a lot of cheap illegal immigrants to do the remodel work). The flipper sold the remolded home to a nice younger couple with decent jobs that paid about 7 times what the son sold it for 2 years ago. Unbelievable, but true, I confirmed all of the sale amounts in the county public records.

 

[Natebishop3]

All these damn white people moving in and changing everything. Stop moving here white people! We already have enough of you!

 

[HailBlazers]

It will get worse. Do you even have a whole foods yet?

no just 49 New Seasons.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

All these damn white people moving in and changing everything. Stop moving here white people! We already have enough of you!

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS LIKE REVERSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHITE PEOPLE MOVE INTO ETHNIC HOODS AND MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS MORE WHITE, SCHOOLS GET BETTER, INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES AND PUT BORING PRETENCIOUS CRACKA AZZ SHIT UP EVERYWHERE.

 

[Natebishop3]

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS LIKE REVERSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WHITE PEOPLE MOVE INTO ETHNIC HOODS AND MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS MORE WHITE, SCHOOLS GET BETTER, INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES AND PUT BORING PRETENCIOUS CRACKA AZZ SHIT UP EVERYWHERE.

Now I know what it was like to be an American Indian. I'm an indigenous person and my land is being stolen by rich white people!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

When I left Oregon Gresham was still nice, I heard it's straight ghetto now, can someone confirm?

 

[Natebishop3]

When I left Oregon Gresham was still nice, I heard it's straight ghetto now, can someone confirm?

Define "nice"....

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Home ownership?

 

[Natebishop3]

Home ownership?

I've always thought Gresham was kind of crappy, but it was going down hill a long time ago. I had a friend who was living pretty close to old Gresham and there was gun shots and tons of crime. Not where I like to hang out.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Idk, it was pretty chill I remember, I heard it's like gangland now

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Gresham was butt fuck egypt back when I was in Oregon.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I remember going to Parkrose to play tennis in HS and thought it was ghetto.

 

[e_blazer]

What cracks me up is when people get all up in arms about change in a neighborhood where some 1950's developer threw up some cheap post-war tract housing. I've been a land use consultant for going on 40 years and the only constant is that people uniformly hate change, no matter what kind of change it is that's being proposed.

 

[Natebishop3]

What cracks me up is when people get all up in arms about change in a neighborhood where some 1950's developer threw up some cheap post-war tract housing. I've been a land use consultant for going on 40 years and the only constant is that people uniformly hate change, no matter what kind of change it is that's being proposed.

You can tear down old houses all you want..... I just wish our infrastructure was actually built to accommodate a population in the millions instead of a population in the hundreds of thousands.

 

[e_blazer]

The thing I found the funniest was when I first did the planning for a manufactured home park near the neighborhood I was living in back in the '80s. People came around to my door wanting me to sign a petition against the project. They were all afraid the trailer people would ruin the values of their properties, which of course never happened. Fifteen years later, that same property had been sold and the new owner wanted to remove the manufactured home park and put in an upscale subdivision. People came unglued and had major protests about losing affordable housing in the community.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

The trend here in LA with these is they put up boxy, modern structures with little to no yard space to maximize square footage. The houses are gigantic versus the other houses in the neighborhood, its weird.

 

[e_blazer]

You can tear down old houses all you want..... I just wish our infrastructure was actually built to accommodate a population in the millions instead of a population in the hundreds of thousands.

Yeah, that would be nice, but it never happens that way. There just isn't a pile of money available to put in all of the roads, schools, water lines, sewer services, etc. and then open things up for development. Instead, the communities have to do it in reverse by charging system development charges on every new building permit and using the money to fund capital improvements to fix things up retroactively.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah, that would be nice, but it never happens that way. There just isn't a pile of money available to put in all of the roads, schools, water lines, sewer services, etc. and then open things up for development. Instead, the communities have to do it in reverse by charging system development charges on every new building permit and using the money to fund capital improvements to fix things up retroactively.

We sure sunk a lot of money into mass transit..... which is already beyond capacity. Seems to me they hedged their bets that lightrail and bicycles could release some of the pressure, but it's not having nearly enough impact. They spent millions on a bridge that only MAX, buses, brikes, peds can cross.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Idk, it was pretty chill I remember, I heard it's like gangland now

Not really. There are gangs (i never see them) in rockwood. But its not scary like some people think. I live in troutdale though, so closer to the nicer parts of gresham.

My first house was in rockwood. Wasnt terribly scary, but definitely needed an alarm on the house.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

isn't gresham where all the sex offenders end up living?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

isn't gresham where all the sex offenders end up living?

Nah. I checked like a year ago and there was like 1 in troutdale. I dont remember many being in gresham. Lloyd district was littered with them

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Tbh, i feel just as unsafe as rockwood as i do in parts of vancouver, hillsboro, estacada, lloyd district, killingsworth or gateway

 

[oldfisherman]

Not sure the Portland/Vancouver area could ever build infrastructure fast enough. The more you build the faster people will move here. The worst thing that ever happened to Vancouver WA was when they built the second bridge.

Vancouver won the “All American City Award” twice, (1957 &1986). It was a great city to live in then. 20 years later, after the Glen Jackson Bridge was built, so many people moved here our central area was closing in on a slum rating. Now they are talking about building a third bridge. And I am moving to the mountains into a cave to get away for the madness.

I used to work in Portland back in the early 1970s. Rush hour on I-5 was when I could see 10 or more cars. This Monday I had to drive into and around Portland. It took me forever to drive just a few blocks. Traffic was backed up due to two accidents. Then I would hit construction backups. When I finally found a street were the traffic was moving, (MLK Street), some clown on a bicycle gets in front of me in the car lane, and is going way slower than the traffic. There was so much traffic in the other lane I could not pass the bicycle.


TOOOO MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE NOW!!!!

 

[THE HCP]

What cracks me up is when people get all up in arms about change in a neighborhood where some 1950's developer threw up some cheap post-war tract housing.

What's your opinion on our situation. It's a bit different.

 

[Natebishop3]

Not sure the Portland/Vancouver area could ever build infrastructure fast enough. The more you build the faster people will move here. The worst thing that ever happened to Vancouver WA was when they built the second bridge.

Vancouver won the “All American City Award” twice, (1957 &1986). It was a great city to live in then. 20 years later, after the Glen Jackson Bridge was built, so many people moved here our central area was closing in on a slum rating. Now they are talking about building a third bridge. And I am moving to the mountains into a cave to get away for the madness.

I used to work in Portland back in the early 1970s. Rush hour on I-5 was when I could see 10 or more cars. This Monday I had to drive into and around Portland. It took me forever to drive just a few blocks. Traffic was backed up due to two accidents. Then I would hit construction backups. When I finally found a street were the traffic was moving, (MLK Street), some clown on a bicycle gets in front of me in the car lane, and is going way slower than the traffic. There was so much traffic in the other lane I could not pass the bicycle.


TOOOO MANY PEOPLE LIVE HERE NOW!!!!

And more are coming. More and more.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I can't wait for HCP to move to Tualatin.

 

[THE HCP]

I can't wait for HCP to move to Tualatin.

 

[Natebishop3]

I can't wait for HCP to move to Tualatin.

That would violate Dame's restraining order.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

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HCP: "WE GOING TO GET SOME DOPE TACOS AT CHEVYS, FAMS!"

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Happy valley is pretty nice hcp. They even have a burrito truck at the new food cart station. Its a match made just for you