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TorturedBlazerFan said:
Yeah lets go have him play an extremely physical playoff series he has no chance of winning so he can get grinded down because he doesnt have any one ready to help win a playoff series. Just hope he doesnt get hurt too.
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But thats basketball. With this analogy, three quarters of the teams should shut down their star because they dont have a chance of winning it all?
 
H.C. said:
I see no reason why people are calling for Harkless to get benched and Hood start.
This forum sometimes.
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It's not about benching Harkless, it's about Harkless being needed to play alongside Kanter. Harkless will be getting plenty of minutes either way. So if Kanter starts then yes you keep Hark and Aminu at forwards. But if Collins starts then I say start Jake at forward (Not guard) and have the better defender in with Kanter and the better shooter in with Collins.

Regardless until CJ gets back you have to start Hood at guard. Jake is not a guard. Why would you possibly want to continue the 1 guard offense that Terry is experimenting with? Other than Jake keeping Harris in check last night, he was invisible. No rebounds, No points, 1 assists. He needs to play his natural position.

Look we have three centers now and only one of them (Collins) is considered a good rim protector. So you can't afford to play Collins anymore on the perimeter because you would be wasting the skill we need most from him. I am OK bringing him in off the bench if it helps keeping him out of foul trouble, because he will need to finish games. But we now need him under the basket.
 
Personally I think he won't want to mess up the chemistry of the second unit and Meyers will start. I would like to see them make one other change and that is to start either Ant or trent as the 2 guard. Jake and is 1 assist will not be missed down at the end of the bench in street clothes. Jake has done nothing in the last month to warrant any playing time much less a increase run.
 
I thought about this last night and I think what Stotts should do (not what he’s actually going to do) is start Collins and insert Skal into the second unit. Skal may be relatively new to the Blazers but he’s not some rookie who’s never played in the league. Guy averaged 20 minutes a game last year. He can cover for Kanter defensively much like Collins has. Or just start him. Either way, the answer is not Meyers Leonard.
 
Scalma said:
I thought about this last night and I think what Stotts should do (not what he’s actually going to do) is start Collins and insert Skal into the second unit. Skal may be relatively new to the Blazers but he’s not some rookie who’s never played in the league. Guy averaged 20 minutes a game last year. He can cover for Kanter defensively much like Collins has. Or just start him. Either way, the answer is not Meyers Leonard.
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I agree in general, but Meyers is absolutely playable against Utah. Look at what he did to Gobert last game. And we know he stays ready.

 
I would completely agree with some of you if this was earlier in the season but there are 9 games left and we are in the playoffs. Giving up on the season makes no sense. Sure, they'll probably get destroyed in the playoffs but you give it your best shot. Do you guys want all the players to sulk and give up on the team like Aldridge did when Wes went down? Fuck that! Giving the rookies 13 games of experience isn't really going to matter and playing not to get hurt is weak.

I know I'll still be cheering the team on to try and win. Just maybe this takes some pressure off and they play looser in the playoffs.
 
twobullz said:
Personally I think he won't want to mess up the chemistry of the second unit and Meyers will start. I would like to see them make one other change and that is to start either Ant or trent as the 2 guard. Jake and is 1 assist will not be missed down at the end of the bench in street clothes. Jake has done nothing in the last month to warrant any playing time much less a increase run.
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I really can't see inserting a rookie who has not played all year into the starting lineup for the last 9 games of the year just to keep the chemistry of the 2nd unit. Lets take care of the starting unit first. Start Hood and move Jake back to forward with the 2nd unit. He plays well with Curry and ET. At least Turner throws him the occasion lob.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I agree in general, but Meyers is absolutely playable against Utah. Look at what he did to Gobert last game. And we know he stays ready.

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The problem with Meyers is he doesn’t fit next to Kanter and Collins played his worst ball playing next to Meyers. Meyers is only playable with the starting unit, and even then, against certain teams that don’t prioritize the pick and roll.

Let’s be real, the priority now should be the development of Zach. I’ve supported starting him next to Nurkic all season. Now that Nurk is out, I’m even more on board. Put him around better players and I bet you’ll see a jump from him, especially if he’s allowed to play close to the basket. Portland is a +8.7 when Collins and Lillard play together. A Collins Aminu Harkless front court is pretty intriguing defensively, and offensively Zach should have more space playing with the starters.

Skal is intriguing as well. He’s similar to Zach as he’s a good rim protector and can *theoretically* shoot. He should get minutes as well.
 
Scalma said:
The problem with Meyers is he doesn’t fit next to Kanter and Collins played his worst ball playing next to Meyers. Meyers is only playable with the starting unit, and even then, against certain teams that don’t prioritize the pick and roll.

Let’s be real, the priority now should be the development of Zach. I’ve supported starting him next to Nurkic all season. Now that Nurk is out, I’m even more on board. Put him around better players and I bet you’ll see a jump from him, especially if he’s allowed to play close to the basket. A Collins Aminu Harkless front court is pretty intriguing defensively, and offensively Zach should have more space playing with the starters.

Skal is intriguing as well. He’s similar to Zach as he’s a good rim protector and can *theoretically* shoot. He should get minutes as well.
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The problem with Zach, Meyers, Nurk, and Kanter.....none of them can cover the perimeter. Zach does it better than the other 3 centers, but still not exactly their true position. It would be a nice surprise if Skal could with the 2nd unit.
 
Most likely Stotts will start Enes or Myers. Zach will foul out if he starts, opponents know this and will attack him (he has been better recently though. Zach is a year away I think. Skal needs minutes. He must be brought up to speed.
CJ will be back. You have to make lemonade here, Stotts will either be viewed as a genius or we exit in the first round...
 
Pinwheel1 said:
The problem with Zach, Meyers, Nurk, and Kanter.....none of them can cover the perimeter. Zach does it better than the other 3 centers, but still not exactly their true position. It would be a nice surprise if Skal could with the 2nd unit.
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Collins’ defense on the perimeter is the best among Portland’s bigs, and that includes Nurkic.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Too soon for many but Terry needs to figure it out soon. So lets take a guess
I would start Collins with Dame,Hood, Jake and Aminu

My bench would be ET, Seth, Hark, Kanter and Leonard

until CJ gets back
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I would like that.

Kanter wouldn't like that.

Stotts won't do that.

Kanter's defense is HORRIBLE. Start Collins or Meyers. Either way, Zach's minutes need to go up.

Also, Mo will continue to start.

:cheers:
 
Scalma said:
Collins’ defense on the perimeter is the best among Portland’s bigs, and that includes Nurkic.
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With that said, and i agree with you, nurk looked better than ever with his perimeter in the game prior to getting injured. He stopped russel a couple of times from getting past him once there was a switch on the perimeter.

Agghh. Still bathing in tears....
 
Shit. Without Nurk, we might not even be in the playoffs.

There are not enough tears.
 
The season may be "over" for a lot of fans. But not for the team or the players.

As for the debate about throwing in the towel and playing the youngsters, I'm not down with that at all.

Dame's team has good chemistry and a strong competitive attitude. You want to develop the youngsters? The most important development they can get right now is mental. Continue to develop the chemistry and the competitive attitude. Nothing is more important for a team's success than that.

Goonies never say die.

:cheers:
 
BBert said:
Start the tank on the day we clinch the playoffs ;)
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Honestly last night and even now, I'm just sad. Sad #1 for Nurkic, #2 his teammates, and all that. Then down somewhere after that is for fans like you and me.
It sucks, but the good news is he should be able to come back and even if he's never the same basketball wise he's got the money to live comfortably for the rest of his life.

In terms of what they do this year, I mean I just hope they make it through whatever run they have in them without any more injuries. How the rest of the season goes is mostly secondary to me. I love Dame and I know he'll fight, but they'll be at an extreme talent disadvantage the rest of the year.
 
My first thought this morning about who should start, was Meyers, with Zach off the bench. Then I remembered we have Kanter. He frankly doesn't even register for me. I seem to recall though when he was signed, the brass and Terry were talking about him as a starting quality center. You know he's going to start.

Le Sigh.
 
hoopsjock said:
I would completely agree with some of you if this was earlier in the season but there are 9 games left and we are in the playoffs. Giving up on the season makes no sense. Sure, they'll probably get destroyed in the playoffs but you give it your best shot. Do you guys want all the players to sulk and give up on the team like Aldridge did when Wes went down? Fuck that! Giving the rookies 13 games of experience isn't really going to matter and playing not to get hurt is weak.

I know I'll still be cheering the team on to try and win. Just maybe this takes some pressure off and they play looser in the playoffs.
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Double like. Not playing to win is for losers. We don't want our young players, or any players, to think like that.

:cheers:
 
Scalma said:
Collins’ defense on the perimeter is the best among Portland’s bigs, and that includes Nurkic.
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That is true....but are any bigs really that good on D out on the perimeter? For many match ups you might as well have Aminu, Hark or Jake out there.
Skal is an interesting thought though. He looks pretty agile for his size. Maybe he can help.
 
hoopsjock said:
I would completely agree with some of you if this was earlier in the season but there are 9 games left and we are in the playoffs. Giving up on the season makes no sense. Sure, they'll probably get destroyed in the playoffs but you give it your best shot. Do you guys want all the players to sulk and give up on the team like Aldridge did when Wes went down? Fuck that! Giving the rookies 13 games of experience isn't really going to matter and playing not to get hurt is weak.

I know I'll still be cheering the team on to try and win. Just maybe this takes some pressure off and they play looser in the playoffs.
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I mean sure I'll be cheering for them to win, I never cheer for them to lose.
 
B-Roy said:
What did he say?
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His absence will be filled by committee. Referenced when Caron Butler (a key contributor for that Dallas team in 2011) went down in Jan with a season ending injury and how he'll try to draw experience from that to keep the team focused. Said he'll have a talk with the team when they get to CHI tonight.

Nothing else of significance. Think he's still in shock like the rest of us.
 
yuyuza1 said:
He might have some deficiencies as a coach but he's not a sadist. SMH. jeez
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It's nice to know that in times like these we still have people that can take shots at the team using the injury. Like was this really worth quipping about?
 
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