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Strenuus said:
Its not just disagree, its that your post shows how brainwashed and ignorant you are to basic facts.

I laughed at you for failing to see reality and using your own fear to drive a narrative thars changed.
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What? This is coming from the most annoying poster thats tries to be the king negative nancy around here that is a fucking mod throwing out how you don’t give a shit about this or that, like anyone cares.

it hasn’t changed one bit, what are you talking about. People in Portland will protest for the dumbest shit, like when Trump won they were up and down all of clackmas with signs protesting a few months ago.

the homeless is still a a problem although it’s getting better.. many people in Portland living there will still say Portland has become a shit fest. Portland media hasn’t gotten any bette.

sorry my post bothered you that much, now go back to doing what you do best, trolling like a clown as a fucking mod. I’m the one laughing at how triggers you got. Haha get a taste if your own medicine huh
 
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SharpesTriumph said:
It might not have huge riots any longer but it's not a place people or businesses want to move to. See big pink selling for only 45 million a few weeks ago while it was 370 million a decade prior.
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Mostly because earthquake-proofing it to modern standards will cost a fucking fortune. Previous owners let it lapse. But sure it’s the protesters lol
 
JFizzleRaider said:
It had a blip for a short while, but if you have actually been downtown in the last few years, those talking points are overexaggerated. It has mostly recovered and I didn't really feel unsafe going there multiple times a week.
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its not just that man, but that's part of it. The homeless, the drug addicts, the business closing down left and right, the media, the protests, on and on.

Yes it's gotten better a little bit overall, but clearly still not like it was 5-10 years ago and if anyone can't admit that, then you need help.

'Yes, there's evidence suggesting people are moving out of Portland, Oregon. Population decline has been observed, with more people leaving the city than moving in, particularly since 2020. Issues like the cost of living, homelessness, and public safety concerns are cited as contributing factors according to news sources"

And there you go. AI with the knowledge.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Mostly because earthquake-proofing it to modern standards will cost a fucking fortune. Previous owners let it lapse. But sure it’s the protesters lol
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So are businesses in downtown Portland thriving? If they are great! If not, then why?
 
sheed30 said:
What? This is coming from the most annoying poster thats tries to be the king negative nancy around here that is a fucking mod throwing out how you don’t give a shit about this or that, like anyone cares.

it hasn’t changed one bit, what are you talking about. People in Portland will protest for the dumbest shit, like when Trump won they were up and down all of clackmas with signs protesting a few months ago.

the homeless is still a a problem although it’s getting better.. many people in Portland living there will still say Portland has become a shit fest. Portland media hasn’t gotten any bette.

sorry my post bothered you that much, now go back to doing what you do best, trolling like a clown as a fucking mod. I’m the one laughing at how triggers you got. Haha get a taste if your own medicine huh
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Clackamas? Is that a town?
 
sheed30 said:
Yes it's gotten better a little bit overall, but clearly still not like it was 5-10 years ago and if anyone can't admit that, then you need help.
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It's definitely not like it was 5 years ago, August 2020.

On August 22 at around noon, right-wing and pro-law enforcement groups held a "Trump 2020 Cruise Rally" at the Multnomah County Justice Center that was quickly met with counter-protesters. According to The Oregonian, the right-wing groups included Proud Boys and supporters of president Donald Trump with some carrying rifles, body armor, helmets, and makeshift shields, while left-wing counter-protesters included regular BLM supporters and anti-fascist Popular Mobilization PDX and Democratic Socialists of America members. Fights and scuffles broke out between the dueling demonstrators with solid objects thrown and some protesters firing paintball guns and using baseball bats, smoke canisters, and pepper spray; one man was seen pointing a revolver at the counter-protesters. Streets were blocked and media images showed hundreds of people were involved. Portland police warned via loudspeaker that arrests could be made but, according to a press release, they refused to physically intervene or declare a riot citing a shortage of manpower following previous nightly protests–there were only 30 officers available to manage the crowd–and because the skirmishes were brief and those involved were "willingly" engaged; there were no reports of arrests during the violence. The right-wing groups largely retreated from downtown by 2:30 p.m. and an unlawful assembly was declared at 2:50 p.m.; the counter-protesters returned to Terry Schrunk Plaza, though the plaza was cleared and arrests were made after another unlawful assembly was declared by federal officials. Federal buildings had been closed that weekend due to a bomb threat. A right-wing protester broke journalist Robert Evans' hand with a baton while Evans was filming.[161] On August 24, Mayor Ted Wheeler, who also serves as Portland's police commissioner, said the decision for police to not intervene in the street violence was under review.
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barfo
 
barfo said:
It's definitely not like it was 5 years ago, August 2020.



barfo
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Rumor has it, if you close your eyes you can still hear the chanting and smell the fires.
 
sheed30 said:
its not just that man, but that's part of it. The homeless, the drug addicts, the business closing down left and right, the media, the protests, on and on.

Yes it's gotten better a little bit overall, but clearly still not like it was 5-10 years ago and if anyone can't admit that, then you need help.

'Yes, there's evidence suggesting people are moving out of Portland, Oregon. Population decline has been observed, with more people leaving the city than moving in, particularly since 2020. Issues like the cost of living, homelessness, and public safety concerns are cited as contributing factors according to news sources"

And there you go. AI with the knowledge.
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"According to news sources"

You mean the news sources that paint PDX like an absolutely lawless place?

AI is wrong a lot of times too bro. To quote AI is interesting.
 
THE HCP said:
Clackamas? Is that a town?
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how about I ask you a question, if Tom decides to get rid of pride night and make it a "everyone" night like he did with his NHL team, you don't think there will be people protesting outside of Moda Center on game days? or talk of not supporting the Blazers and on social media because the Blazers got rid of pride night?

As other poster mentioned, lets not forget the fact that there was some uproar about Billups and his rape case when he was hired, and for a little bit he was getting asked about it by the media, people in Portland making all sorts of comments on social media about it for a long while. It was tasteless as fuck. It's just one example of the shit show IMO I think Portland has become to what is use to be. Most people here have adpoted a negative narrow minded view imo. And that's a shame currently, as Portland was super vibrant and clean not to long ago. It can reach there one day again hopefully imo. But to each their own opinion wise

and for the record, I'm not against anyone or what their preference is, my point is people in Portland will find any reason to "protest', whether it be politics, race, or gender related. It's just a bad look if you ask me.
 
Also for the thousandth time. Pdx has a homeless issue, but so does many other jurisdictions throughout the US. I witnessed it on my drive through America 4ish years ago. Some cities just deal with it differently by containing all homeless to one area of town.
 
sheed30 said:
and for the record, I'm not against anyone or what their preference is, my point is people in Portland will find any reason to "protest', whether it be politics, race, or gender related. It's just a bad look if you ask me.
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If I looked in the dictionary, this take would be an example under the word "privilege"
 
JFizzleRaider said:
If I looked in the dictionary, this take would be an example under the word "privilege"
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I think I understand what you're implying, but could you dumb it down so people like me and @THE HCP can understand it?


(My confusion is that I think I agree with you, but I'm not sure if Im understanding what you meant. That's entirely a me thing, not a you thing)
 
I don't consider my equal civil rights a frivolous excuse to protest. Eliminating Pride is saying the official position of Blazers is that we don't deserve equality. At a time when civil rights are under massive assault. It might be trivial to some of you straight boys but to me it's my life.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
"According to news sources"

You mean the news sources that paint PDX like an absolutely lawless place?

AI is wrong a lot of times too bro. To quote AI is interesting.
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That was just one example. You want others? It's pretty easy to find articles online if you take a minute or two:

"more small businesses reporting revenue decreases than increases in 2024" on Portland

"Critics of tax policies undertaken by the city of Portland and by Multnomah County say high levies are prompting people to leave, especially given the rise in open-air drug use, graffiti, car theft and other forms of blight. The census data supports that, to a point' - From 2024

Portland Loses Population for Third Year as Exodus Continues

More left Oregon than arrived last year, Census Bureau says, reversing decades -
 
JFizzleRaider said:
To quote AI is interesting.
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It really is. Quoting AI—whether it's a line from a chatbot, a generated poem, or a philosophical musing—feels like capturing a moment where machine logic brushes up against human emotion or insight. Sometimes it’s eerily profound, sometimes hilariously offbeat, and sometimes it just makes you pause and think, “Wait… did a computer just say that?”

barfoAI
 
sheed30 said:
That was just one example. You want others? It's pretty easy to find articles online if you take a minute or two:

"more small businesses reporting revenue decreases than increases in 2024" on Portland

"Critics of tax policies undertaken by the city of Portland and by Multnomah County say high levies are prompting people to leave, especially given the rise in open-air drug use, graffiti, car theft and other forms of blight. The census data supports that, to a point' - From 2024

Portland Loses Population for Third Year as Exodus Continues

More left Oregon than arrived last year, Census Bureau says, reversing decades -
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From what I googled, Oregon lost 6K people last year.
 
barfo said:
It really is. Quoting AI—whether it's a line from a chatbot, a generated poem, or a philosophical musing—feels like capturing a moment where machine logic brushes up against human emotion or insight. Sometimes it’s eerily profound, sometimes hilariously offbeat, and sometimes it just makes you pause and think, “Wait… did a computer just say that?”

barfoAI
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how about this, you can go and watch this video on youtube if you like.

better yet, instead of wasting time, how about you guys jus go down and read about 10-15 comments about people and their thoughts on Portland that lived there and left or still currently live there...

some comments include :

I’m a lifelong Oregonian, been in Portland for 21 years. We’re prepping to sell our house this summer, the city is a case study of mental illness. The energy is gone, was downtown yesterday, complete shell of what it was. This inspite of a new Ritz Carlton, SoHo House, new airport, WNBA coming, possible MLB team… State leadership is killing Oregon, it’s not just Portland

I moved from Utah to Oregon the summer before I started high school and instantly fell in love with it. The greenery was everywhere, the water was clean and tasted amazing, and the air was fresh. I loved it so much that even when my family moved back to Utah, I stayed in Portland. I loved the people and the culture. Portland was incredible. I would skate through the city all day and spend my nights at the waterfront. I never wanted to leave. That changed about ten years ago. The homeless population started becoming more erratic and dangerous. The violence got worse. There were shootings and stabbings, things I had never seen before. Two years ago, I finally said enough and decided to leave. It’s sad to say, but I am so much happier now. Portland feels lost, and I truly believe progressivism is the reason why.

23:08 This is exactly correct. I've lived here 48 years and it's absolutely impossible to have objective solutions based conversation with anyone here because of the ideologically captured culture. It's completely irrational. Portland and Multnomah county have become politically corrupt to the point of civic paralysis.

Portland is one of those situations where you’re trying to please everyone, you please no one.
 
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sheed30 said:
I’m not sure exactly what you mean, but I’m going the route of if there is no pride night then Portland peeps will do what they do best, protest and make everything a shit show.

Are you trying to disagree that Portland hasn't become a shit fest over the last 5 years compared to what is used to be?
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???
 
sheed30 said:
how about this, you can go and watch this video on youtube if you like.
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No thanks, not into videos or comments on videos! But gosh, thanks so much for the suggestion.

barfo
 
barfo said:
No thanks, not into videos or comments on videos! But gosh, thanks so much for the suggestion.

barfo
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When presented with facts, you relate to being a smartass.

Checkmate, now run along.
 
julius said:
I think I understand what you're implying, but could you dumb it down so people like me and @THE HCP can understand it?


(My confusion is that I think I agree with you, but I'm not sure if Im understanding what you meant. That's entirely a me thing, not a you thing)
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There usually is a reason people are protesting for race, gender or politics. To be able to say protesting over those items is a bad look is a sign of privilege.
 
sheed30 said:
That was just one example. You want others? It's pretty easy to find articles online if you take a minute or two:

"more small businesses reporting revenue decreases than increases in 2024" on Portland

"Critics of tax policies undertaken by the city of Portland and by Multnomah County say high levies are prompting people to leave, especially given the rise in open-air drug use, graffiti, car theft and other forms of blight. The census data supports that, to a point' - From 2024

Portland Loses Population for Third Year as Exodus Continues

More left Oregon than arrived last year, Census Bureau says, reversing decades -
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Not sure how long you have been here, but Oregon consistently for many years had an issue with being a top destination to move to. If we lose some of those people, it's not a sky is falling scenario as you are making it out to be.

The tax thing for City of Portland And Multnomah County....that has some to deal with a personal tax, which has income exemptions. Also, as I have already stated, PDX is now a market based sourcing jurisdiction. Do you know what that means?
 
riverman said:
Phil Knight donated a gazillion dollars to the GOP every election cycle...he is a hard core conservative...most 1%ers are....I doubt Dundon is as much a "Trumper" as he is a 1%er...his residence is Texas I'm sure for the tax benefits as well. Paul was a well known liberal ..an exception to the status quo in my view and it shows in his will with his devotion to charities and humanitarian needs. As you said, we'll see but I never expect sports franchise owners to suit my politics.
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Phil Knight has a devotion to charities and humanitarian needs. He just donated $2B dollars to OHSU which is an American record to a school.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
There is a difference supporting this admin and being conservative. They are not necessarily the same. See Mitt Romney.
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Or Liz Cheney or even the late John McCain..this administation is fragmented with conflicting ideologies and there's hardly a pragmatic conservative remaining.
 
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