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Cippy, you gotta stop insulting people. It's gotten to the point where I'm deleting your posts instead of editing them. Saying you're a Trump supporter might be insulting to you but it's not a personal insult. I understand it may upset you but that doesn't mean it's okay to call people names. If you really need to insult someone you can insult me.
 
Cippy91 said:
well fuck me i guess. bodyman is another dumbass then because he feels the same way.
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Nah, I'm not calling you a dumbass or bodyman. Have your opinion. Feel the way you feel. But, respect us when we feel the way we feel and have our opinions. That's all I'm asking.
 
It's like you guys who are arguing against me all the time realize not everybody will have the same opinion as you? you give me shit like I expect people to have the same as me, not true. I start out reasonable then somebody like barfo takes it a step further and I just don't care to talk about it seriously anymore. Whether you like it or not, there actually are quite a lot of people who fought in the military who still believe in not disrespecting the flag. I think that's prehistoric thinking. There are also people like you guys who think these people taking a knee are heroes and they are protesting racism, that's great. Think a bit. Why wasn't every player in the league doing this back when Colin did it? I remember only a few did. At least he stood up for what he believed in whether he was right or wrong. All of a sudden trump goes crazy on curry and the warriors and then football players. Okay then explain to me why you have the national anthem singers doing it themselves? how do you know this is about racism at this point? you don't. I will tell you what i see. People doing this out of spite as well as just doing it for the brownie points, virtue signal, morale superiority, whatever you want to call it. It's the popular opinion that this is heroic because celebrities and the media say so. When really it actually adds to division in the country by everybody doing this today. Like I said earlier there are still quite a bit of people that take this as disrespect and it only made them more mad. Sorry I don't go along with your typical left wing way of thinking. I have my own opinions, no bias here because guess what, I don't like trump. This is just how I see it. I only argue this way with barfo because he doesn't even think hillary is corrupt which is hilarious and he constantly wants to say I am a trump supporter so fuck him
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Cippy, you gotta stop insulting people. It's gotten to the point where I'm deleting your posts instead of editing them. Saying you're a Trump supporter might be insulting to you but it's not a personal insult. I understand it may upset you but that doesn't mean it's okay to call people names. If you really need to insult someone you can insult me.
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well sly, have a little talk with these posters about their need to call me alt right and then get back to me
 
theprunetang said:
Nah, I'm not calling you a dumbass or bodyman. Have your opinion. Feel the way you feel. But, respect us when we feel the way we feel and have our opinions. That's all I'm asking.
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Depends, if you are barfo, the respect is instantly out the window
 
Cippy91 said:
Okay then explain to me why you have the national anthem singers doing it themselves?
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I think brings up a great question, if you are singing the national anthem are you being disrespectful to the flag if you are doing it not while not standing? Does that make the singer a son of bitch? So that person be fired or never allowed to sign the national anthem in public again?
 
Son of a bitch!

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Instead of kneeling or (staying in the locker room-Steelers except a REAL veteran) an NFL player should bring an amputee from the wars to the ceremony and stand with respect alongside a real hero. I would place total respect for an athlete that actually thought of a disabled veteran rather than a political statement.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I think brings up a great question, if you are singing the national anthem are you being disrespectful to the flag if you are doing it not while not standing? Does that make the singer a son of bitch? So that person be fired or never allowed to sign the national anthem in public again?[/QU
solidarity. singing the anthem and saying the words is in no way disrespectful. support for a pillar of the bill of rights frame work can't be construed as an act of disrespect to the country
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lawai'a said:
if you are American citizen then he is your president. calling for someone to be punished for free speech is not ok, especially the person sworn to protect everyone in the nation from attacks on the constitution. and i'm not retarded you are just wrong here on this issue.
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People do that alllllllllll the time. He didn't say it should be illegal to kneel. Just that they should be fired. I'm usually the one who thinks police chiefs shouldn't be fired when some idiot cop does something.

I guarantee I'm the least likely to call for someone to be fired over anything that doesn't directly relate to their job.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I think brings up a great question, if you are singing the national anthem are you being disrespectful to the flag if you are doing it not while not standing? Does that make the singer a son of bitch? So that person be fired or never allowed to sign the national anthem in public again?
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honestly I never really cared for the anthem. I mean I always would just sit there kinda bored in a game or whatever during it but there are people who take that shit seriously. I mean a majority of soldiers care, some have come out and don't care. The thing is, today only brought more division and that's what these players don't understand. I get you wanna spite trump or shove it in his face, whatever. Then you have the singers themselves doing it and it's weird. Real weird. Or just not showing up for it like the seahawks did. Why? it's childish on both sides, president and the players.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
People do that alllllllllll the time. He didn't say it should be illegal to kneel. Just that they should be fired. I'm usually the one who thinks police chiefs shouldn't be fired when some idiot cop does something.

I guarantee I'm the least likely to call for someone to be fired over anything that doesn't directly relate to their job.
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HOLD ON ARE YOU DEFENDING TRUMP YOU FUCKING TRUMP SUPPORTER GOD DAMN
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
People do that alllllllllll the time. He didn't say it should be illegal to kneel. Just that they should be fired. I'm usually the one who thinks police chiefs shouldn't be fired when some idiot cop does something.

I guarantee I'm the least likely to call for someone to be fired over anything that doesn't directly relate to their job.
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And this is what I meant with the over dramatic shit with trump. He isn't good we know that but lawai'a come sin here and talks about "punishment" like come on he said they should be fired big fucking deal, shit wont be happening. He didn't call for their heads for fucks sake. Trump is 70 years old, it's how he feels, fuck it. I bet my grandpa would say the same shit. Bunch of other people too. Do I care? no but people need to realize not everybody is down with the kneeling
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
People do that alllllllllll the time. He didn't say it should be illegal to kneel. Just that they should be fired. I'm usually the one who thinks police chiefs shouldn't be fired when some idiot cop does something.

I guarantee I'm the least likely to call for someone to be fired over anything that doesn't directly relate to their job.
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he is not "people" he is the defender of the constitution. what he said was if someone insists on using his right to free speech to protest a civil injustice it should cost them their lively hood. do you feel that I should be fired for saying that the president cannot issue a proclamation that free speech should be punished?
his job is to defend free speech not to seek punishment for it.
 
lawai'a said:
he is not "people" he is the defender of the constitution. what he said was if someone insists on using his right to free speech to protest a civil injustice it should cost them their lively hood. do you feel that I should be fired for saying that the president cannot issue a proclamation that free speech should be punished?
his job is to defend free speech not to seek punishment for it.
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His job is to be President. He was doing what he thinks he needs to do to get re-elected. Which I'd make illegal until the last year of a term.

A job we would drastically change if it were up to me.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
His job is to be President. He was doing what he thinks he needs to do to get re-elected. Which I'd make illegal until the last year of a term.

A job we would drastically change if it were up to me.
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and me. but saying there should be change should not cost you your job.
 
Cippy91 said:
well sly, have a little talk with these posters about their need to call me alt right and then get back to me
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There will come a day when you'll realize it's easier to ignore people than fire insults back at them.
Personally, I had to turn 26 before I realized lowering myself to their level was beneath me.
Took so much work to act like them, not to mention it would ruin my mood for the rest of the day.
Now I tend to just laugh & ignore people who just aren't worth my time. Simply because no matter what you say to them, it won't change their opinion.
 
honkicracker said:
There will come a day when you'll realize it's easier to ignore people than fire insults back at them.
Personally, I had to turn 26 before I realized lowering myself to their level was beneath me.
Took so much work to act like them, not to mention it would ruin my mood for the rest of the day.
Now I tend to just laugh & ignore people who just aren't worth my time. Simply because no matter what you say to them, it won't change their opinion.
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I mostly do that but I don't know I guess barfo can press that button and I get lost in something stupid and not worth the time and energy
 
Cippy91 said:
yeah he isn't a good president and pretty childish wow I can't believe we are at this point in our country where this guy is president
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Cippy91 said:
first off, I don't even fucking vote.
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And I'll bet you see no connection whatsoever between those two statements.

barfo
 
Cippy91 said:
sorry I just wasn't gonna vote between two terrible candidates.
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There were four terrible candidates on the ballot in Oregon, not two. Stein, Johnson, Clinton, Trump.

Plus, you said you don't vote, not that you didn't vote.

barfo
 
barfo said:
There were four terrible candidates on the ballot in Oregon, not two. Stein, Johnson, Clinton, Trump.

Plus, you said you don't vote, not that you didn't vote.

barfo
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No I don't vote nor will I ever. I don't trust politicians.
 
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