NJ Wants Miller alongside Carmelo

[RR7]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ak0f0lj1ehB.3s80UUmevGa8vLYF?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer122410

The New Jersey Nets are hoping to sell Carmelo Anthony(notes) on their future by also acquiring point guard Andre Miller(notes), one of his former teammates.

The Nets have continued talks with the Portland Trail Blazers and Denver Nuggets about the possibility of adding Miller in a multiteam trade that would land them Anthony, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. Anthony and Miller were teammates in Denver from 2003-06 and played well together. While reuniting with Miller would be attractive to Anthony, sources continue to insist the Nets would likely need to acquire an additional quality player for Anthony to seriously consider committing to a contract extension with the franchise.

The Nuggets would likely acquire forwards Derrick Favors(notes) and Troy Murphy(notes) and two first-round picks from the Nets in potential deal. Under one scenario, New Jersey would send point guard Devin Harris(notes) to the Blazers. The roadblock is that the Nuggets also covet the Blazers’ Nicolas Batum(notes), and Portland officials have shown no interest in trading their versatile young forward. Other players and draft picks could also be involved.

“There are some other scenarios, but [Nets general manager] Billy King is really pushing for this,” one NBA executive said. “He is trying to figure out what Denver wants.”

King is still a big fan of Miller, who played for him in Philadelphia.

Denver is attracted to dealing with New Jersey in large part because the Nets have five first-round picks over the next two years.

The Nets discussed a possible deal for Miller during the preseason, but nothing materialized. The Charlotte Bobcats also have had recent conversations with the Blazers about Miller, but the talks haven’t progressed.

Anthony has refused to sign a three-year, $64 million deal with the Nuggets and previously hoped he would be traded to either the New York Knicks or Chicago Bulls. If Anthony is moved, don’t expect the Nuggets to be in a rush to trade guard Chauncey Billups(notes), a league source said. Denver could exercise Billups’ $3.7 million contract buyout prior to June 23 and sign him to a longer-term deal at a much smaller salary than the $13.1 million he is making this season.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Damn if we could do a swap of Miller for Harris i would be ecstatic, problem is, he doesnt fit with pretty boy Roy

 

[Minstrel]

Damn if we could do a swap of Miller for Harris i would be ecstatic

Now that is a trade (even if Portland needs to kick in a bit more) I'd love for Miller.

problem is, he doesnt fit with pretty boy Roy

While I don't think Roy deserves derision, that's not a problem. The team doesn't need to build around a reserve quality player.

 

[illmatic99]

I'd do Dre and NO pick for Harris. No Nic, though. Kinda hesitant about giving up Rudy also, but I shouldn't be.

 

[Minstrel]

I'd do Dre and NO pick for Harris. No Nic, though. Kinda hesitant about giving up Rudy also, but I shouldn't be.

I'd happily give up Miller, the pick and Rudy without any hesitation. I wouldn't throw in Batum, though.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'd give up Nic, and I'm a huge fan of him, if it meant we got Derrick Favors. Otherwise, no.

Harris would fit the mold of 'rebuilding on the fly"

Harris
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge

That's a solid group moving forward.

 

[RR7]

I'd give up Nic, and I'm a huge fan of him, if it meant we got Derrick Favors. Otherwise, no.

Harris would fit the mold of 'rebuilding on the fly"

Harris
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge

That's a solid group moving forward.

+1 to this. I'm not adding young pieces to Denver just because in this deal. I think Favors and picks is plenty for them. However, if they for some weird reason preferred Batum, no hesitation here.

And agreed, it's a good rebuild on the fly. Not really rebuild, but it's a swap out of a guy who is helping our team, but is getting old, for a much younger player. Changes the dynamic of the team a bit, but, with Roy out, that's a really good defensive lineup of Harris, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, camby.

 

[crowTrobot]

seems like a lot of work to rent carmelo for 1/2 season : )

 

[Minstrel]

I'd give up Nic, and I'm a huge fan of him, if it meant we got Derrick Favors. Otherwise, no.

Harris would fit the mold of 'rebuilding on the fly"

Harris
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge

That's a solid group moving forward.

Agreed.

 

[THE HCP]

Wonder why they want Nic so bad. Mello said he would resign there if tradedd.

 

[illmatic99]

Wonder why they want Nic so bad. Mello said he would resign there if tradedd.

Maybe it has something to do with how Nic always frustrates Melo so much when guarding him?

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Wonder why they want Nic so bad. Mello said he would resign there if tradedd.

It is Denver that wants Nic.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Harris is a pretty good player, but giving up Nic, Rudy and Miller just to get him strikes me as somewhat too steep a price to pay for a guy who hasn't been the picture of durability throughout his career and while good, probably still falls somewhere in the 2nd tier of point guards around the league. If the goal is to get better, then ditching Nicolas seems kind of counter-productive -- presumably Harris would need players on the wing he can pass to who are capable shooters.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Harris isn't as good as Miller, and he isn't even better at Miller's main weakness - outside shooting.
The question to ask about Harris is, will he work with LaMarcus better than Miller, as Aldridge is currently our franchise player. And I think the answer is a clear no.

 

[craigehlo]

Miller/Batum is fair value for Devin Harris. Batum isn't showing the consistency and improvement that would make me think twice about it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Harris isn't as good as Miller, and he isn't even better at Miller's main weakness - outside shooting.
The question to ask about Harris is, will he work with LaMarcus better than Miller, as Aldridge is currently our franchise player. And I think the answer is a clear no.

I think the real issue is "timeline," Miller's at the end of his (or very nearly) Harris presumably has a few years left in the tank and is a probably a better option as a defender and as a shot creator when you might actually need a player with some one-on-one ability. I agree that Miller is a better distributor, but for how much longer?

 

[shamelessblazer]

I wonder if Carmelo does or doesn't want to play with Harris? I wouldn't mind trying to give Roy to Denver (not that he's really attractive right now), but maybe they'd give up a bunch of their picks (and Harris) if we would take Outlaw (and his nasty contract) off their hands.

Outlaw to Portland
Roy/Favors/picks to Denver (Roy would work well with Chauncey and they'd keep the team competitive for the fans at least for a little while.
Mello to New Jersey - they keep Harris, Morrow, and Lopez to stay competitive.

 

[LameR]

I think the real issue is "timeline," Miller's at the end of his (or very nearly) Harris presumably has a few years left in the tank and is a probably a better option as a defender and as a shot creator when you might actually need a player with some one-on-one ability. I agree that Miller is a better distributor, but for how much longer?

Not saying your wrong, as it's obvious that Harris has much longer in the league than Miller, but what about Miller's game implies to you that he is slipping?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Damn if we could do a swap of Miller for Harris i would be ecstatic, problem is, he doesnt fit with pretty boy Roy

Fuck Prima Royya.

 

[BBert]

Harris is a pretty good player, but giving up Nic, Rudy and Miller just to get him strikes me as somewhat too steep a price to pay....

Too steep? I'd consider it lunacy. Thowing in both Nico and Rudy? Has no one noticed that Rudy has exploded since Roy went down? I am OK with trading our older guys while they have value, but it makes no sense to get worse long-term in the process.

 

[BBert]

Harris isn't as good as Miller, and he isn't even better at Miller's main weakness - outside shooting.
The question to ask about Harris is, will he work with LaMarcus better than Miller, as Aldridge is currently our franchise player. And I think the answer is a clear no.

I pretty much agree with this. When we trade Miller, we need to get back a PG who can shoot and who compliments Aldridge. I don't know that Harris is necessarily that guy, but I'd trade Miller for him based on the age factor, but not if we are also throwing in our best young players.

 

[Shooter]

Harris isn't as good as Miller, and he isn't even better at Miller's main weakness - outside shooting.

Yeah, I don't get all the excitement about Harris. I think Miller is just as good, maybe even better. There are very few point guards in the NBA who can post up and pass the ball like Andre Miller. I really love his game.

 

[lakeblazer]

If the move is Miller and Rudy for Harris without a first being included I would pull the trigger. Where I do agree that I don't think Harris would be any more effective with Roy I think Devin would be a better and younger compliment with Mathews, Batum, Aldridge and whomever we throw at center.

My opinion though is Portland is now working teams against one another to get what they really want. In doing so they are trying to get the original team they want to trade with to make the move, with fear that if they don't, it won't be available to them soon, and I don't t know that the original team is a team we have heard come up yet.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If the move is Miller and Rudy for Harris without a first being included I would pull the trigger. Where I do agree that I don't think Harris would be any more effective with Roy I think Devin would be a better and younger compliment with Mathews, Batum, Aldridge and whomever we throw at center.

My opinion though is Portland is now working teams against one another to get what they really want. In doing so they are trying to get the original team they want to trade with to make the move, with fear that if they don't, it won't be available to them soon, and I don't t know that the original team is a team we have heard come up yet.

Portland is going to "outsmart" themselves I think. Typical of this franchise.


As for Harris.....Ya, he would be a better compliment long term for anyone on the roster not named Roy, so I am in favor of that.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Not saying your wrong, as it's obvious that Harris has much longer in the league than Miller, but what about Miller's game implies to you that he is slipping?

I'm not saying Miller is slipping really but the track record of guards remaining at peak effectiveness beyond age 35 isn't exactly real extensive. I guess I would expect that he's got maybe another 2 or 3 years left in him, but when one of those years includes a lockout his value to this team is somewhat diminished ... especially when this team is looking at something of a rebuild.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Ha! Two years later...

NEW YORK – The Portland Trail Blazers have intensified discussions with the New Jersey Nets about moving up into the 10th pick of the NBA draft with intentions of taking Texas point guard D.J. Augustin, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday.

-July 2008

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