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[Cippy91]

Yes, actually you are.



But you never do. In your world, racism doesn't seem to exist.



Sure. The country voted in the Republican party because everyone's mind is controlled by Hollywood and Google.



So what are you complaining about? That some other people have different views than you? That's the way things go. Take comfort in the fact that people with the same views as you control the government, so your way of life is not likely to be infringed upon.



Glad to hear it doesn't affect you. Makes one wonder why you are so exercised about it, though.



Well, if you got over it at 18, don't you think other 18 year olds are capable of that? Or were you just so much smarter at 18 than today's youth is?



And if you want to pretend racists aren't racist, go for it. That's what you are doing - the question is why. I don't believe it actually has to do with your being a lingual purist.



Well, since you didn't notice Trump defending the nazis at Charlottesville, I'd say at best you weren't paying much attention.

barfo

Racism obviously exists. Racists of all colors racist against all sorts of other people of all colors. Sorry I don’t believe everybody is a racist without actual evidence.

If we are going by popular vote you and I both know Hillary would of won. A lot of those votes coming out of California. You know, where all
those tech companies come from.

So since you know what views I have, what are they exactly? You said I share them with Republicans. Which ones? Which liberal views do I have? Knock yourself out with that one.

I think at 18 I was pretty stupid as most 18 year olds are but I realized the party system was bullshit at least.

What racists am I pretending that aren’t racist? Answer that one as well.


On the 11th he tweeted he condemns all racism. So I don’t know. Trump could most certainly be full of shit.

 

[The Professional Fan]

The violent part is denounced by me.

My point was that they are the result of a root problem that lies mostly with KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists. Can't you see that the KKK, Nazis and White Supremacists are going to elicit an equally violent reaction?

I guess you're not the target of these slime balls and therefor see no problem. Try putting your shoes in the shoes of the victims of these horrific people.

Of course I see what your point. I'm just saying that some of Antifa's tactics are counterproductive. Vandalism, stopping traffice, etc. I hate that shit.

 

[donkiez]

The big tech companies have adopted it, google, etc. this nonsense about being progressive when none of it is progressive at all

Actually the "big tech" companies have adopted the idea that a diverse population of race, gender, education and experience make for better ideas and solutions to everyday issues. It's not some reverse racism conspiracy, it's actually a good business practice that makes their products more valuable and marketable.

 

[MarAzul]

boast that they are not racist

Interesting. Who makes boast like this?
What makes this boast material?

 

[dviss1]

You are so over dramatic dviss like for real can you actually ever add to a conversation than just spew nonsense and illogical shit? Come back with something. Anything. A real point. Support it. Something man.

The fact that you gloss over murder says more about you than it does about me. Everybody in here knows your type...

 

[yankeesince59]

Interesting. Who makes boast like this?
What makes this boast material?

...are you seriously saying that you have never heard someone claim that they are not racist?

 

[dviss1]

I'm neither denying history nor trying to change it. You, however, are denying the present reality, it seems. Carry on!

barfo

They deny history too. So much so they think I should forget it.

 

[MarAzul]

...are you seriously saying that you have never heard someone claim that they are not racist?

Can you give us a reference to someone boasting about it? Perhaps a link or quote?

 

[barfo]

Can you give us a reference to someone boasting about it? Perhaps a link or quote?

Sure, here you go (start about 40 seconds in).



barfo

 

[CupWizier]

Racism obviously exists. Racists of all colors racist against all sorts of other people of all colors. Sorry I don’t believe everybody is a racist without actual evidence.

If we are going by popular vote you and I both know Hillary would of won. A lot of those votes coming out of California. You know, where all
those tech companies come from.

So since you know what views I have, what are they exactly? You said I share them with Republicans. Which ones? Which liberal views do I have? Knock yourself out with that one.

I think at 18 I was pretty stupid as most 18 year olds are but I realized the party system was bullshit at least.

What racists am I pretending that aren’t racist? Answer that one as well.


On the 11th he tweeted he condemns all racism. So I don’t know. Trump could most certainly be full of shit.

Trump is also a proven liar and thus the saying, actions speak louder than words. Believe me.

 

[yankeesince59]

Can you give us a reference to someone boasting about it? Perhaps a link or quote?

Seriously?...I said it "has been MY experience..."...sorry, but I don't have link for that.

...but maybe you could provide "us" a link showing that it has never happened.. {rolls eyes}



...no wonder you get so much abuse around here.

 

[MarAzul]

...but maybe you could provide "us" a link showing that it has never happened.. {rolls eyes}

No. No links to what I can not remember ever seeing.

 

[yankeesince59]

No. No links to what I can not remember ever seeing.

... yet you want me to "provide a link" for things I have personally heard and/or witnessed that obviously have never been digitally uploaded?

... brilliant, simply brilliant !...thank you for proving my point.

 

[Lanny]

You are so good at this debate stuff.

barfo

Too funny.

 

[Cippy91]

Actually the "big tech" companies have adopted the idea that a diverse population of race, gender, education and experience make for better ideas and solutions to everyday issues. It's not some reverse racism conspiracy, it's actually a good business practice that makes their products more valuable and marketable.

its not a good business practice. When these companies wanna be diverse for the sake of being diverse that means they aren’t choosing the best for the job, instead they are trying to appeal to the progressive crowd and get brownie points. You hire the best available, whatever color they might be.

 

[Cippy91]

The fact that you gloss over murder says more about you than it does about me. Everybody in here knows your type...

And what is my type dviss? How am I glossing over murder? Like I said man you need to think before you post. You sound ridiculous most of the time.

 

[Cippy91]

They deny history too. So much so they think I should forget it.

My great grandparents were Italian immigrants and treated very poorly once they got to America. My other set of great grandparents escaped nazi Germany. Looks like I need to carry around this the rest of my life and play victim. Hmm. My question is how long can you play victim? Are you content with doing it the rest of your life? Must be a fun life to live

 

[donkiez]

its not a good business practice. When these companies wanna be diverse for the sake of being diverse that means they aren’t choosing the best for the job, instead they are trying to appeal to the progressive crowd and get brownie points. You hire the best available, whatever color they might be

There is no single "best for the job" there are lots of "bests for the job." Products in the big tech world are made in large teams and are multistage processes. Diversity breeds innovation during this process. Having a lot of people with the same viewpoint is not good business when you are trying to reach a very broad customer base.

 

[Cippy91]

There is no single "best for the job" there are lots of "bests for the job." Products in the big tech world are made in large teams and are multistage processes. Diversity breeds innovation during this process. Having a lot of people with the same viewpoint is not good business when you are trying to reach a very broad customer base.

I say you take the best for the job. It’s simply terrible business practice thinking if you make your team diverse that will somehow create more innovation. Having the best minds create innovation and elevate further. Being diverse these days is only done for brownie points. Not hard to tell.

 

[donkiez]

I say you take the best for the job. It’s simply terrible business practice thinking if you make your team diverse that will somehow create more innovation. Having the best minds create innovation and elevate further. Being diverse these days is only done for brownie points. Not hard to tell.

There is no single best person for the job, especially entry level jobs in a large company. In fact an interview process is not the best indicator for who will be the best fit, it's really easy to bullshit your way through it or appeal to the personal bias of a hiring manager. Also, left to their own devices a hiring manager will usually fill a team with people who look like them and have similar backgrounds. It's an unconscious bias thing most people do regardless of race or gender.

High tech companies generally impose a strategy of hiring lots of bright people, from diverse backgrounds, for entry level positions. They then give those people the opportunity to prove their worth for advancement, while letting the bullshitters eventually fall out of the company. That way you end up with the best people in higher positions, and you have a diverse innovative work force.

 

[Cippy91]

There is no single best person for the job, especially entry level jobs in a large company. In fact an interview process is not the best indicator for who will be the best fit, it's really easy to bullshit your way through it or appeal to the personal bias of a hiring manager. Also, left to their own devices a hiring manager will usually fill a team with people who look like them and have similar backgrounds. It's an unconscious bias thing most people do regardless of race or gender.

High tech companies generally impose a strategy of hiring lots of bright people, from diverse backgrounds, for entry level positions. They then give those people the opportunity to prove their worth for advancement, while letting the bullshitters eventually fall out of the company. That way you end up with the best people in higher positions, and you have a diverse innovative work force.

James demore is a bright guy but got fired from google because he was “being sexist”. When in fact his memo for the most part was based on science and the difference between the male and female brains and traits. Other ex google employees have also reported this sort of ideology going on in meetings and in the office.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstec...e-i-resisted-illegal-diversity-efforts/?amp=1


https://gizmodo.com/ex-google-employees-memo-says-executives-shut-down-pro-1821996513

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320/amp

I mean, these guys worked there. Straight from the source.

 

[riverman]

James demore is a bright guy but got fired from google because he was “being sexist”. When in fact his memo for the most part was based on science and the difference between the male and female brains and traits. Other ex google employees have also reported this sort of ideology going on in meetings and in the office.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/ex-google-recruiter-i-was-fired-because-i-resisted-illegal-diversity-efforts/?amp=1


https://gizmodo.com/ex-google-employees-memo-says-executives-shut-down-pro-1821996513

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320/amp

I mean, these guys worked there. Straight from the source.

you found a victim?

 

[Cippy91]

you found a victim?

what?

 

[donkiez]

James demore is a bright guy but got fired from google because he was “being sexist”. When in fact his memo for the most part was based on science and the difference between the male and female brains and traits. Other ex google employees have also reported this sort of ideology going on in meetings and in the office.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/ex-google-recruiter-i-was-fired-because-i-resisted-illegal-diversity-efforts/?amp=1


https://gizmodo.com/ex-google-employees-memo-says-executives-shut-down-pro-1821996513

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...-10-page-anti-diversity-screed-1797564320/amp

I mean, these guys worked there. Straight from the source.

James Demore got caught publicly critizing the company he works for not a bright move. Google has 88,000 employees at last check there will always be malcontents.

One thing you are right about is that people can get caught up in numbers chasing when they are given certain directives. Some of that can be the company or managers fault when the push to hard for results but don't monitor the process close enough.

 

[barfo]

James demore is a bright guy

The Unabomber was a bright guy too.

Sometimes bright guys spend way too much energy on things that are ultimately harmful to themselves.

barfo

 

[Cippy91]

The Unabomber was a bright guy too.

Sometimes bright guys spend way too much energy on things that are ultimately harmful to themselves.

barfo

but it wasn't. if you read the memo, it's correct

 

[Cippy91]

James Demore got caught publicly critizing the company he works for not a bright move. Google has 88,000 employees at last check there will always be malcontents.

One thing you are right about is that people can get caught up in numbers chasing when they are given certain directives. Some of that can be the company or managers fault when the push to hard for results but don't monitor the process close enough.

I mean yeah I guess but he was also trying to help with the memo.

 

[Chris Craig]

No. No links to what I can not remember ever seeing.

 

[barfo]

but it wasn't. if you read the memo, it's correct

but it wasn't what? harmful to himself? didn't he get fired because of it?

barfo

 

[Cippy91]

but it wasn't what? harmful to himself? didn't he get fired because of it?

barfo

You ask a lot of questions. You provide less answers. This morning I gave you a bunch of questions. You never followed up. Pick and choose, that's what you do. Anything you think you can make witty and clever you do and more than often it's neither of those things, instead a very arrogant attitude towards people in "debates". The memo wasn't harmful in general like people acted. Was it harmful to himself? lost him that job but opened up opportunities to speak with like minded people, fighting against the ideology I am speaking of with the likes of intellectuals such as jordan peterson and bret weinstein, sam harris, etc. Only he can answer whether it was harmful or not. Doesn't sound like he really loved his job at google considering the issues he had with them. Maybe he is happier now. Who knows